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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 6, 2022 10:19:58 GMT -5
Brandi's not a bad choice, honestly. Again, not a woman with a complicated moveset to begin with, and they never did get their match due to Brandi getting pregnant, so, yeah, it'd make sense. Jade v Brandi would be an instant channel changer. As for Jade v Anna. Only if Anna wins Well Anna at this current stage of her career probably isnt winning and shouldn't be beating Jade, though as a title challenger, she'd still work Brandi might make sense, but idk if that's where it's going, kinda wonder if PVZ is going to kill her.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 6, 2022 10:21:41 GMT -5
Jade v Brandi would be an instant channel changer. As for Jade v Anna. Only if Anna wins Well Anna at this current stage of her career probably isnt winning and shouldn't be beating Jade, though as a title challenger, she'd still work Brandi might make sense, but idk if that's where it's going, kinda wonder if PVZ is going to kill her. So you don't think Anna should beat Jade but you think Jade winning despite having less matches and being nowhere near as good in the ring is a good idea. Cool. The hypocrisy is real
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 6, 2022 10:22:26 GMT -5
Brandi's not a bad choice, honestly. Again, not a woman with a complicated moveset to begin with, and they never did get their match due to Brandi getting pregnant, so, yeah, it'd make sense. Jade v Brandi would be an instant channel changer. As for Jade v Anna. Only if Anna wins It's a midcard title. Don't be shocked if midcarders are the people who challenger her, especially for a first feud she'd win, anyway.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 6, 2022 10:24:50 GMT -5
Well Anna at this current stage of her career probably isnt winning and shouldn't be beating Jade, though as a title challenger, she'd still work Brandi might make sense, but idk if that's where it's going, kinda wonder if PVZ is going to kill her. So you don't think Anna should beat Jade but you think Jade winning despite having less matches and being nowhere near as good in the ring is a good idea. Cool. The hypocrisy is real Come off it would you? You absolutely get why I'd say that. Jade is a completely different beast than Anna and has been booked like such from the jump being undefeated as she is and a statuesque hoss of a woman I also did not say I thought Jade deserved the TBS title at this stage, I just said I was cool with it because I see the options. I dont see how Anna beating her out of nowhere at this point would work. Build Anna up maybe sure? As an immediate open challenger? Jade would win that right now, soundly. Conti might be another story.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 6, 2022 10:31:09 GMT -5
So you don't think Anna should beat Jade but you think Jade winning despite having less matches and being nowhere near as good in the ring is a good idea. Cool. The hypocrisy is real Come off it would you? You absolutely get why I'd say that. Jade is a completely different beast than Anna and has been booked like such from the jump being undefeated as she is and a statuesque hoss of a woman I also did not say I thought Jade deserved the TBS title at this stage, I just said I was cool with it because I see the options. I dont see how Anna beating her out of nowhere at this point would work. Build Anna up maybe sure? As an immediate open challenger? Jade would win that right now, soundly. Conti might be another story. Maybe ask why that is. If Anna wasn't booked like a chump since her return and built up like Jade she could absolutely be the person to beat her. Hell after coming off the great street fight start building her now. Anna, Conti and Statlander all would've been better options than Jade. This title run has disaster written all over it because she's not good in the ring and her push has been forced and isn't organically over like they all are.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 6, 2022 10:33:27 GMT -5
Jade v Brandi would be an instant channel changer. As for Jade v Anna. Only if Anna wins It's a midcard title. Don't be shocked if midcarders are the people who challenger her, especially for a first feud she'd win, anyway. They need to take the title off her ASAP
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 6, 2022 10:33:30 GMT -5
Come off it would you? You absolutely get why I'd say that. Jade is a completely different beast than Anna and has been booked like such from the jump being undefeated as she is and a statuesque hoss of a woman I also did not say I thought Jade deserved the TBS title at this stage, I just said I was cool with it because I see the options. I dont see how Anna beating her out of nowhere at this point would work. Build Anna up maybe sure? As an immediate open challenger? Jade would win that right now, soundly. Conti might be another story. Maybe ask why that is. If Anna wasn't booked like a chump since her return and built up like Jade she could absolutely be the person to beat her. Hell after coming off the great street fight start building her now. Anna, Conti and Statlander all would've been better options than Jade. This title run has disaster written all over it because she's not good in the ring and her push has been forced and isn't organically over like they all are. I'm just gonna come out and say it, Anna is not a ring general either and a lot of her matches since coming back have been rough. She's still super green too even if she's caught on fast. Her shoulder injury probably hasn't helped her in ring work as of late either, so I get why they haven't pushed her hard out the gate and why she isn't in the same position as someone as Jade would be who has been pushed as an undefeated monster for a year. And Jade is over with the fans organically, live reports said she had the crowd split with Ruby and popped well when she won, and she's a booked heel.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 6, 2022 10:35:08 GMT -5
It's a midcard title. Don't be shocked if midcarders are the people who challenger her, especially for a first feud she'd win, anyway. They need to take the title off her ASAP Honestly this threads starting to beocme so tedious and bitter that I hope Jade proves some of ya'll wrong and has a good reign with fine matches. Because woof. Gonna go ahead and disengage from this for a bit and leave it at that.
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Post by Blade on Jan 6, 2022 10:38:51 GMT -5
Maybe ask why that is. If Anna wasn't booked like a chump since her return and built up like Jade she could absolutely be the person to beat her. Hell after coming off the great street fight start building her now. Anna, Conti and Statlander all would've been better options than Jade. This title run has disaster written all over it because she's not good in the ring and her push has been forced and isn't organically over like they all are. Jade has size, physical charisma, and looking like a statue of a goddess come to life to compensate for being green. Anna does not. There is absolutely no reason to push her over Jade right now, there's at least dozen other women in the division I'd push before her. Tay's lower midcard friend who occasionally gets a win is a fine spot for Anna right now, she's perfectly watchable but not particularly exceptional. Also "isn't organically over". It's wrestling. If you're over, you're over. Orange Cassidy isn't organically over either but I'm not complaining and neither are the crowds. Jade will be fine if they book to her strengths and are careful not to put her in lengthy matches with people who can't help her through them. Her match with Rosa was quite good.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 6, 2022 10:39:11 GMT -5
Maybe ask why that is. If Anna wasn't booked like a chump since her return and built up like Jade she could absolutely be the person to beat her. Hell after coming off the great street fight start building her now. Anna, Conti and Statlander all would've been better options than Jade. This title run has disaster written all over it because she's not good in the ring and her push has been forced and isn't organically over like they all are. I'm just gonna come out and say it, Anna is not a ring general either and a lot of her matches since coming back have been rough. She's still super green too even if she's caught on fast. Her shoulder injury probably hasn't helped her in ring work as of late either, so I get why they haven't pushed her hard out the gate and why she isn't in the same position as someone as Jade would be. And Jade is over with the fans organically, live reports said she had the crowd split with Ruby and popped well when she won, and she's a booked heel. the street fight was a near 5 star match, plus her matches with Hayter and Britt were good. She's a massive upgrade on Cargill. Name me one thing Cargill can do better? And no she's not that over compared to TayJay and Statlander. Fans will turn on her very quickly because of this Goldberg push that's been forced on us. The fact that she's a champion before TayJay, Stat and Hayter is sickening because she's done absolutely nothing to deserve it
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Post by holyshida on Jan 6, 2022 10:40:25 GMT -5
They need to take the title off her ASAP Honestly this threads starting to beocme so tedious and bitter that I hope Jade proves some of ya'll wrong and has a good reign with fine matches. Because woof. Gonna go ahead and disengage from this for a bit and leave it at that. I was a fan 6 months ago, just this WWE overpushed treatment has completely soured me in her.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 6, 2022 10:43:40 GMT -5
Maybe ask why that is. If Anna wasn't booked like a chump since her return and built up like Jade she could absolutely be the person to beat her. Hell after coming off the great street fight start building her now. Anna, Conti and Statlander all would've been better options than Jade. This title run has disaster written all over it because she's not good in the ring and her push has been forced and isn't organically over like they all are. Jade has size, physical charisma, and looking like a statue of a goddess come to life to compensate for being green. Anna does not. There is absolutely no reason to push her over Jade right now, there's at least dozen other women in the division I'd push before her. Tay's lower midcard friend who occasionally gets a win is a fine spot for Anna right now, she's perfectly watchable but not particularly exceptional. Also "isn't organically over". It's wrestling. If you're over, you're over. Orange Cassidy isn't organically over either but I'm not complaining and neither are the crowds. Jade will be fine if they book to her strengths and are careful not to put her in lengthy matches with people who can't help her through them. Her match with Rosa was quite good. None of those things compensate for being green. And Anna does have a shit ton of charisma WTF are you watching? I'll give you 2 reasons why they could've pushed her instead. A. She's better in the ring and B. She's more over and has a bigger fanbase
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Post by Blade on Jan 6, 2022 10:46:02 GMT -5
the street fight was a near 5 star match, plus her matches with Hayter and Britt were good. She's a massive upgrade on Cargill. Name me one thing Cargill can do better? And no she's not that over compared to TayJay and Statlander. Fans will turn on her very quickly because of this Goldberg push that's been forced on us. The fact that she's a champion before TayJay, Stat and Hayter is sickening because she's done absolutely nothing to deserve it Anna, by a wide margin, contributed the least to the quality of that street fight. Not that she was terrible, just... again, unexceptional. Also, wow, you would have hated to watch wrestling back in the day, I guess. "What did that goddamn Ultimate Warrior do to deserve winning the Intercontinental Title? Name me one thing he can do better than Terry Taylor." (This is not to say Jade is the Ultimate Warrior. But Anna Jay is no Terry Taylor, either. Point is, wrestling is not about what's fair. You can resent that - I resent Edge was always pushed harder than Christian when Christian is better than Edge at literally everything other than looking cool, so I get it - but it is what it is.) Edit to add your other response: None of those things compensate for being green. And Anna does have a shit ton of charisma WTF are you watching? I'll give you 2 reasons why they could've pushed her instead. A. She's better in the ring and B. She's more over and has a bigger fanbase If Anna Jay has so much charisma, she hasn't shown it to me yet. She's a perky girl who hangs out with Tay and the Dark Order, I haven't seen her show any personality beyond that. Perhaps she shall in the future! As for saying she's more over than Jade, well... (citation needed)
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Post by markymark on Jan 6, 2022 10:46:54 GMT -5
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Post by holyshida on Jan 6, 2022 10:50:21 GMT -5
the street fight was a near 5 star match, plus her matches with Hayter and Britt were good. She's a massive upgrade on Cargill. Name me one thing Cargill can do better? And no she's not that over compared to TayJay and Statlander. Fans will turn on her very quickly because of this Goldberg push that's been forced on us. The fact that she's a champion before TayJay, Stat and Hayter is sickening because she's done absolutely nothing to deserve it Anna, by a wide margin, contributed the least to the quality of that street fight. Not that she was terrible, just... again, unexceptional. Also, wow, you would have hated to watch wrestling back in the day, I guess. "What did that goddamn Ultimate Warrior do to deserve winning the Intercontinental Title? Name me one thing he can do better than Terry Taylor." (This is not to say Jade is the Ultimate Warrior. But Anna Jay is no Terry Taylor, either. Point is, wrestling is not about what's fair. You can resent that - I resent Edge was always pushed harder than Christian when Christian is better than Edge at literally everything other than looking cool, so I get it - but it is what it is.) She was great in that street fight (as were the other 3) again WTF are you watching? Anna has tons of charisma and looks like a star and is better in the ring than Jade, and more over, she ticks all the boxes
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 6, 2022 10:53:02 GMT -5
Anna, by a wide margin, contributed the least to the quality of that street fight. Not that she was terrible, just... again, unexceptional. Also, wow, you would have hated to watch wrestling back in the day, I guess. "What did that goddamn Ultimate Warrior do to deserve winning the Intercontinental Title? Name me one thing he can do better than Terry Taylor." (This is not to say Jade is the Ultimate Warrior. But Anna Jay is no Terry Taylor, either. Point is, wrestling is not about what's fair. You can resent that - I resent Edge was always pushed harder than Christian when Christian is better than Edge at literally everything other than looking cool, so I get it - but it is what it is.) She was great in that street fight (as were the other 3) again WTF are you watching? Anna has tons of charisma and looks like a star and is better in the ring than Jade, and more over, she ticks all the boxes Chill out. I don't think Jade's ready either but there's no reason to attack other posters over it.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Jan 6, 2022 10:53:19 GMT -5
I love Anna and Jade. They both have a tremendous upside, but are both greener than goose shit, and neither is ready for a solo title run.
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Post by Blade on Jan 6, 2022 10:58:06 GMT -5
She was great in that street fight (as were the other 3) again WTF are you watching? Anna has tons of charisma and looks like a star and is better in the ring than Jade, and more over, she ticks all the boxes She was a warm body in that street fight, other than the ending (which, if we're being fair, is far more due to Bunny for being memorable). She is bland both in look and character and also not very good in the ring. Jade is also not that good in the ring but has far, far more charisma and star power, and I recognise those are things that matter in wrestling. You can disagree! That's the thing about art, it's subjective. Like, lots of people disagree with you about Jade (for starters, the crowd that popped for her win and Tony Khan), you should probably realise they can watch the same show as you and have a different opinion.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 6, 2022 11:05:22 GMT -5
She was great in that street fight (as were the other 3) again WTF are you watching? Anna has tons of charisma and looks like a star and is better in the ring than Jade, and more over, she ticks all the boxes She was a warm body in that street fight, other than the ending (which, if we're being fair, is far more due to Bunny for being memorable). She is bland both in look and character and also not very good in the ring. Jade is also not that good in the ring but has far, far more charisma and star power, and I recognise those are things that matter in wrestling. You can disagree! That's the thing about art, it's subjective. Like, lots of people disagree with you about Jade (for starters, the crowd that popped for her win and Tony Khan), you should probably realise they can watch the same show as you and have a different opinion. She's very good in the ring for her experience. Watch her matches with Shida, Hayter and Britt. And Jade doesn't have more star power. Anna sells more merch than Jade and has a bigger following. And again she's not bland in look and character, that's just you hating and not seeing the potential. Anna is way better in the ring than Cargill and better at cutting promos. The fact that you fail to acknowledge how good she was in the street fight and fail to give her any credit just proves you're a hater
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 6, 2022 11:06:59 GMT -5
I don’t REALLY want to start a big thing, but the main reason people keep saying Jade is good is because of her look. That’s some “Vince McMahon loves muscles” thinking to me.
That said, she’s way better than Brakkus or Tom MaGee.
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