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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 23, 2021 14:27:25 GMT -5
I am past the point of thinking this is a work.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 14:29:47 GMT -5
This is WWE's monster they created.
They gave this woman every single thing on a silver plater and she hasn't had to give back anywhere near the same , she is the most protected woman in the history of WWE , the most titles , most accomplishments etc.
If she believes she is entitled to everything and they keep giving her everything this is only going to get worse.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 14:30:11 GMT -5
I am past the point of thinking this is a work. If it's a work, tell the people responsible for it to do shit like this on the show.
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Post by cornettesracket on Oct 23, 2021 14:30:33 GMT -5
Just seems like a case of two women acting like spoiled babies knowing that they aren't going to have worry about any consequences since they've both been spoiled for years. A good deal of blame has to go to WWE's toxic environment for enabling that behavior in thr first place. Ah come on. Becky and Charlotte are grown adult women and are meant to be professionals and didn’t show that last night and made a co worker in sonya deville look like an idiot on worldwide TV and that’s on them not WWE.
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Post by cornettesracket on Oct 23, 2021 14:31:38 GMT -5
I am past the point of thinking this is a work. As I said earlier today I wasn’t saying it was a work or a shoot but the more bits of info that’s come out I’m leaning towards it being real and that’s a shame.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Oct 23, 2021 14:32:41 GMT -5
The fed deserves every bit of this and then some.
Sow a toxic environment, reap the consequences.
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Post by mistery on Oct 23, 2021 14:37:16 GMT -5
The fed deserves every bit of this and then some. Sow a toxic environment, reap the consequences. The "fed" does not deserve this. It's not their fault Charlotte has an ego the size of the titanic. And this isn't the first time she has lashed out either. And probably won't be the last.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Oct 23, 2021 14:40:49 GMT -5
The fed deserves every bit of this and then some. Sow a toxic environment, reap the consequences. The "fed" does not deserve this. It's not their fault Charlotte has an ego the size of the titanic. And this isn't the first time she has lashed out either. And probably won't be the last. The hell it isn’t. They didn’t have to give her everything she wanted and more. They could just as easily have decided to treat her and Becky like any other woman they get bored of within a month. They didn’t. They’re the biggest reason she has that ego.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 14:40:59 GMT -5
At this point I don't even care if it's a work or a shoot. The fact we're even talking about it this much compared to "who will beat these 2 heels for the belts" is just bad. Both these women regardless should know better and both of these women are just embarrassing themselves, the company and all those involved including Sonya.
It's just bad all around.
EDIT: No I'm not blaming Sonya. I'm saying she shouldn't be associated in this at all. She deserved better.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Oct 23, 2021 14:42:31 GMT -5
At this point I don't even care if it's a work or a shoot. The fact we're even talking about it this much compared to "who will beat these 2 heels for the belts" is just bad. Both these women regardless should know better and both of these women are just embarrassing themselves, the company and all those involved including Sonya. It's just bad all around. I don’t see how Sonya takes any blame. She wasn’t throwing a tantrum. It was the two womanchildren she was in between. La Ingobernable and dime store Conor.
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Post by Chiral on Oct 23, 2021 14:42:35 GMT -5
Exclusive look at security escorting Charlotte out:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 14:42:49 GMT -5
A good deal of blame has to go to WWE's toxic environment for enabling that behavior in thr first place. Ah come on. Becky and Charlotte are grown adult women and are meant to be professionals and didn’t show that last night and made a co worker in sonya deville look like an idiot on worldwide TV and that’s on them not WWE. First, don't tell me to "Come on". Don't talk to me like that. If there is a fallout from this, then the company should discipline them. Will they? If not, then it's on them. If Charlotte feels she's entitled to a championship in a worked form of entertainment, then it's on the people that confer that title on their employees.
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Post by eJm on Oct 23, 2021 14:42:56 GMT -5
I think saying WWE has no blame is a bit naive considering the long standing history and they also did decide that booking the segment was the right step considering the other options they could have done and were lobbied into doing by those involved.
Them fighting and Charlotte having to be escorted out of the arena is on them and it’s unprofessional but let’s not act like WWE didn’t have a part of waving the flames here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 14:43:52 GMT -5
At this point I don't even care if it's a work or a shoot. The fact we're even talking about it this much compared to "who will beat these 2 heels for the belts" is just bad. Both these women regardless should know better and both of these women are just embarrassing themselves, the company and all those involved including Sonya. It's just bad all around. I don’t see how Sonya takes any blame. She wasn’t throwing a tantrum. It was the two womanchildren she was in between. Nobody's going to blame Sonya. She just deserved better than being associated with this crap is what I'm saying.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Oct 23, 2021 14:44:55 GMT -5
I don’t see how Sonya takes any blame. She wasn’t throwing a tantrum. It was the two womanchildren she was in between. Nobody's going to blame Sonya. She just deserved better than being associated with this crap is what I'm saying. Gotcha.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Oct 23, 2021 14:45:52 GMT -5
Just seems like a case of two women acting like spoiled babies knowing that they aren't going to have worry about any consequences since they've both been spoiled for years. A good deal of blame has to go to WWE's toxic environment for enabling that behavior in thr first place. Really doesn't send a good message that three of the four women who are the main event perennials right now and unless things drastically change will continue to be for the forseeable future, are being headaches behind the scenes and yet seemingly never have to worry about anything. Charlotte and Becky with this incident (Charlotte as well with the Nia Jax thing last month) and then Sasha and her constant "vacations" yet always having a top spot ready for her when she comes back. Bianca is the only one who seems to be acting like a model employee and not making waves but unfortunately that could just be a case of her being the newest of the four and not being able to get away with as much. It really comes down to bad management. Becky, Charlotte, and Sasha are big stars but it's not like they aren't expendable either. Like I don't think business would suffer that much if for instance they made an example out of someone like Charlotte and bumped her down to the midcard and give someone else the ball. Would send a message that nobody is bullet proof and would give an opportunity to someone who could potentially be a big star for the company. I mean you would think having the most stars possible instead of the same ones all the time would be a good scenario. I know they clearly don't but it should.
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Post by cornettesracket on Oct 23, 2021 14:48:06 GMT -5
Ah come on. Becky and Charlotte are grown adult women and are meant to be professionals and didn’t show that last night and made a co worker in sonya deville look like an idiot on worldwide TV and that’s on them not WWE. First, don't tell me to "Come on". Don't talk to me like that.If there is a fallout from this, then the company should discipline them. Will they? If not, then it's on them. If Charlotte feels she's entitled to a championship in a worked form of entertainment, then it's on the people that confer that title on their employees. I didn’t mean it in a disrespectful way in the slightest. It’s a common phrase. well that entitlement was probably always there. I mean just look at her life growing up. She never really seemed to want for anything and got whatever she wanted and was allowed to do whatever she wanted mostly. I don’t think her being pushed to the moon has helped but that’s why I don’t think it’s fully on wwe.
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Post by sunnytaker on Oct 23, 2021 14:48:48 GMT -5
one version i heard was that charlotte didn;t want to do the exchange because it would make her character look "weak" just to hand the belt over and "went into business for herself". becky was upset that she looked bad lunging for the belt while charlotte played keepaway before it was dropped which was why she just tossed the belt at charlotte after.
i also thought it was funny sasha basically ignored becky, who had just pulled a fast one on her to retain the title at crown jewel- which you would think might be upsetting to her- just to jaw at charlotte since she now had the belt.
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Post by cornettesracket on Oct 23, 2021 14:50:28 GMT -5
At this point I don't even care if it's a work or a shoot. The fact we're even talking about it this much compared to "who will beat these 2 heels for the belts" is just bad. Both these women regardless should know better and both of these women are just embarrassing themselves, the company and all those involved including Sonya. It's just bad all around. I don’t see how Sonya takes any blame. She wasn’t throwing a tantrum. It was the two womanchildren she was in between. La Ingobernable and dime store Conor. It was like herding cats for Sonya. She seems to say “I’m done” or “that’s it” at the end and I don’t think it was a work. She looked genuinely pissed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 14:52:32 GMT -5
First, don't tell me to "Come on". Don't talk to me like that.If there is a fallout from this, then the company should discipline them. Will they? If not, then it's on them. If Charlotte feels she's entitled to a championship in a worked form of entertainment, then it's on the people that confer that title on their employees. I didn’t mean it in a disrespectful way in the slightest. It’s a common phrase. well that entitlement was probably always there. I mean just look at her life growing up. She never really seemed to want for anything and got whatever she wanted and was allowed to do whatever she wanted mostly. I don’t think her being pushed to the moon has helped but that’s why I don’t think it’s fully on wwe. And blocked.
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