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Post by cornettesracket on Oct 23, 2021 14:54:09 GMT -5
I didn’t mean it in a disrespectful way in the slightest. It’s a common phrase. well that entitlement was probably always there. I mean just look at her life growing up. She never really seemed to want for anything and got whatever she wanted and was allowed to do whatever she wanted mostly. I don’t think her being pushed to the moon has helped but that’s why I don’t think it’s fully on wwe. And blocked. I’m sorry I said I didn’t mean it in a disrespectful way.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Oct 23, 2021 14:54:56 GMT -5
I have 50 bucks on it being a shoot. And I have 50 bucks on it being a work.
And by that I mean 50 Pictures of the young bucks. But that would technically be 100 Bucks per bet, which would be a 200 Bucks bet. Quick everybody, stop reading this post. I've made a mistake.
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 23, 2021 14:56:26 GMT -5
Honestly don't care as I'm sick of the horsewomen dominating all and everything in the women's division,you have so many talented women just wasting away in catering or 2 minute squashes while we keep getting the same old faces in the title scene month after month. It's always interesting to me to see people talk this way about the four of them; in most of pro wrestling, a promotion having four rock solid main eventers who can work well and draw a reaction would be a dream scenario. The ultimate historical example is the AJPW Four Pillars: talented and over as all hell, able to be swapped in and out of the Triple Crown or Tag title spots and guarantee great matches and feuds, all four of them building up tons of history with one another that they could draw on for in-ring stories and psychology every time they renewed hostilities, etc. If this formula isn't working with the Horsewomen, it really does warrant reviewing what may be causing that. Judging by most show reviews and the way people talk about the division, it might be that there just feels like there's too much of a gap between the Horsewomen and the rest of the women's divisions (with some rare exceptions like Asuka having Becky's number or Belair beating Sasha cleanly), but I'm sure different people have different reasons, too, some of which might simply boil down to "WWE creative sucks". Either way, it's pretty fascinating: like, I can look back to 2004-2006 or so in ROH and think of Samoa Joe, Bryan Danielson, Homicide, and CM Punk as their "big four" (though Punk was obviously gone by '05), and that worked wonders with that roster and made all four guys really well known among indie fans of the era, and there's no reason why it shouldn't be working better for WWE when you've got the kind of talent they've got available to them.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Oct 23, 2021 14:59:02 GMT -5
Imagine having these egos after being beat by the Bunny😂
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Oct 23, 2021 14:59:56 GMT -5
This is how it started with Bret and Shawn. When Bret was forced to trade the Byte This WWF Championship with Shawn for the Saturday Morning Slam WWF Championship and two packs of Crazy Bones.
We know where this is going. Everyone will come back and like this post when Becky is accusing Charlotte of spending too many nights at the T-Bar.
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Post by Andee9001 on Oct 23, 2021 15:35:41 GMT -5
Probably just tired from the grueling travel schedule. I'm sure all will be forgiven by next week.
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 23, 2021 15:37:42 GMT -5
Why would security escort Charlotte out?
What exactly is she going to do, go throw a load of other belts on the ground? Throw some chops, slap a Figure 8 on a caterer on the way out or something?
I know you've got guys like Alvarez and so on confirming it, but feels way overboard a response if legit.
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Post by asuka007 on Oct 23, 2021 15:39:03 GMT -5
Charlotte’s had a weird year in general.
She had that storyline with Lacey Evans and her dad which both she and Ric have admitted she hated doing.
She was pulled from WrestleMania late in the game for I guess a misdiagnosed pregnancy. Which she was not happy about.
She has not had a truly good storyline in years, and now it’s back to 2016 basically with her feuding with Sasha again.
Etc.
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Post by Perd on Oct 23, 2021 15:54:32 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s a work. Because WWE has done nothing, the past 5-6 years, that would indicate that they could create something I would find this entertaining.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 23, 2021 16:00:37 GMT -5
Seriously I’d rather WWE have Tessa than Flair at this point. You'd rather a racist bully that is locker room poison over someone who got pissy over her booking? Come on now
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 23, 2021 16:02:04 GMT -5
This shit is just getting crazier and crazier Haha. Good lord😂
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Oct 23, 2021 16:04:04 GMT -5
Why would security escort Charlotte out? What exactly is she going to do, go throw a load of other belts on the ground? Throw some chops, slap a Figure 8 on a caterer on the way out or something? I know you've got guys like Alvarez and so on confirming it, but feels way overboard a response if legit. Probably because they didn't want anything to escalate any further between her Becky with things possibly getting physical and one or both of their top two female stars possibly getting injured. Becky was still needed for a dark match after the show so they probably just saw that as opportunity to get Charlotte of of there before Becky came back from her match.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 23, 2021 16:04:38 GMT -5
Charlotte’s had a weird year in general. She had that storyline with Lacey Evans and her dad which both she and Ric have admitted she hated doing. She was pulled from WrestleMania late in the game for I guess a misdiagnosed pregnancy. Which she was not happy about. She has not had a truly good storyline in years, and now it’s back to 2016 basically with her feuding with Sasha again. Etc. Charlotte hasn't felt the same since she returned and teamed with Asuka. I'm not sure what it is. She just feels kinda checked out
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Post by Dub H on Oct 23, 2021 16:11:44 GMT -5
This is WWE's monster they created. They gave this woman every single thing on a silver plater and she hasn't had to give back anywhere near the same , she is the most protected woman in the history of WWE , the most titles , most accomplishments etc. If she believes she is entitled to everything and they keep giving her everything this is only going to get worse. I remember that interview where she said (paraphrasing of course,I dont remember the exact words) her booking could be much better than it is,just because she wanst in a title picture. You could chalk up for it being in character,even if she is speaking about booking, but seems less likely every time.Maybe she did buy into the hype they gave her,maybe its a work
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 16:12:17 GMT -5
Charlotte is probably under a lot of stress due to her partner wrestling for another company when she’s used to having him around and her father being outed as a sex pest and possibly having to support him if his unemployable status becomes permanent. She should really drop the title and take six months off to avoid burnout but is probably reluctant as anytime off would get added to her contract delaying her reunion with Andrade.
Becky too is probably troubled by the change in backstage atmosphere since she went away.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Oct 23, 2021 16:22:37 GMT -5
We here at FAN like to have fun. But sometimes, we gotta get serious. Look at this situation.
Multimillionaire adult women get into a real fight about fake belts.
It doesn't matter if WWE cultivated the environment or not. These are adults in their mid-30s fighting about a red belt and a blue belt.
It's embarrassing for them and embarrassing for wrestling fans.
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Oct 23, 2021 16:29:09 GMT -5
I’m sorry I said I didn’t mean it in a disrespectful way. I was very confused with these responses to you. I’ve never used “come on” disrespectfully either, it’s very common. And then you were still very respectful in your reply. I feel like I missed something.
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Post by cornettesracket on Oct 23, 2021 16:37:17 GMT -5
I’m sorry I said I didn’t mean it in a disrespectful way. I was very confused with these responses to you. I’ve never used “come on” disrespectfully either, it’s very common. And then you were still very respectful in your reply. I feel like I missed something. I’m confused as well but I can’t do anything more than I’ve done. It’s out of my hands.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 16:37:32 GMT -5
Oh man, this is getting really funny now. Put these two marks in the FIGHT PIT.
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Post by asuka007 on Oct 23, 2021 16:40:27 GMT -5
Honestly don't care as I'm sick of the horsewomen dominating all and everything in the women's division,you have so many talented women just wasting away in catering or 2 minute squashes while we keep getting the same old faces in the title scene month after month. It's always interesting to me to see people talk this way about the four of them; in most of pro wrestling, a promotion having four rock solid main eventers who can work well and draw a reaction would be a dream scenario. The ultimate historical example is the AJPW Four Pillars: talented and over as all hell, able to be swapped in and out of the Triple Crown or Tag title spots and guarantee great matches and feuds, all four of them building up tons of history with one another that they could draw on for in-ring stories and psychology every time they renewed hostilities, etc. If this formula isn't working with the Horsewomen, it really does warrant reviewing what may be causing that. Judging by most show reviews and the way people talk about the division, it might be that there just feels like there's too much of a gap between the Horsewomen and the rest of the women's divisions (with some rare exceptions like Asuka having Becky's number or Belair beating Sasha cleanly), but I'm sure different people have different reasons, too, some of which might simply boil down to "WWE creative sucks". Either way, it's pretty fascinating: like, I can look back to 2004-2006 or so in ROH and think of Samoa Joe, Bryan Danielson, Homicide, and CM Punk as their "big four" (though Punk was obviously gone by '05), and that worked wonders with that roster and made all four guys really well known among indie fans of the era, and there's no reason why it shouldn't be working better for WWE when you've got the kind of talent they've got available to them. I think the problem is that we’ve seen pretty much every combination of the HW feud with each other already (aside from maybe a proper Becky vs. Bayley feud). And there’s other really talented women who feel like they’re constantly being undercut to keep the HW in the top spots. They had a chance to make Rhea Ripley a new top star after Mania for example. But instead, they just fed her to Charlotte (for the second year in a row) and now she doesn’t feel like anywhere near as big a deal as she did earlier this year. And for what, to give Charlotte ANOTHER title reign? You have women like Toni Storm, Shotzi, Tegan Nox, Mia Yim, etc getting nothing of note to do despite all of their talent. But WWE wants to run Charlotte vs. Sasha again like it’s 2016. It’s too much at this point.
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