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Post by dynamitekidd on Oct 25, 2021 18:13:54 GMT -5
Tay is my favorite out the women’s division, but no way Britt is dropping the belt right now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 18:14:40 GMT -5
I feel like people are really reading too much into Britt's promo. Like, it's pretty much her saying "she's not in my league" and having a high opinion of herself. To which then Tay's going to prove her wrong going into the title match and then give her a run for her money there. and then still lose. I get looking good in defeat, but Brits not as good of a worker to tell that convicting of a story in match probably won’t go ten minutes and that will probably be put in a spot as the cool down match before Page and Omega. Both women have improved leaps and bounds, Baker might be one of best character wrestlers in AEW, but there are still some nights Tay still looks lost out there.
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Post by eJm on Oct 25, 2021 18:26:35 GMT -5
I feel like people are really reading too much into Britt's promo. Like, it's pretty much her saying "she's not in my league" and having a high opinion of herself. To which then Tay's going to prove her wrong going into the title match and then give her a run for her money there. and then still lose. I get looking good in defeat, but Brits not as good of a worker to tell that convicting of a story in match probably won’t go ten minutes and that will probably be put in a spot as the cool down match before Page and Omega. Both women have improved leaps and bounds, Baker might be one of best character wrestlers in AEW, but there are still some nights Tay still looks lost out there. That doesn’t really address my original post, though? And that wasn’t the case with the last PPV women’s title match so I’m not sure why you’d think that would suddenly be the case for this one?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 18:36:21 GMT -5
and then still lose. I get looking good in defeat, but Brits not as good of a worker to tell that convicting of a story in match probably won’t go ten minutes and that will probably be put in a spot as the cool down match before Page and Omega. Both women have improved leaps and bounds, Baker might be one of best character wrestlers in AEW, but there are still some nights Tay still looks lost out there. That doesn’t really address my original post, though? And that wasn’t the case with the last PPV women’s title match so I’m not sure why you’d think that would suddenly be the case for this one? I had to google it. It was an average match. Statlander no chance in hell of winning. I don’t remember it telling that deep of a story besides AEW heels wins because of numbers advantage. Went 11 minutes. Really doesn’t matter as Statlander dropped off the face of the earth afterwards.
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Post by eJm on Oct 25, 2021 18:40:07 GMT -5
That doesn’t really address my original post, though? And that wasn’t the case with the last PPV women’s title match so I’m not sure why you’d think that would suddenly be the case for this one? I had to google it. It was an average match. Statlander no chance in hell of winning. I don’t remember it telling that deep of a story besides AEW heels wins because of numbers advantage. Went 11 minutes. Really doesn’t matter as Statlander dropped off the face of the earth afterwards. But it wasn’t in the cooldown spot, which part of your point for some reason. Again, what you thought of the match itself and the build of it had nothing to do with what I was saying at all so I don’t know why that was your counter. Again, my post said “People read way too much into a heel promo” and your response was “Well, Tay’s going to lose anyway” which…ok? Probably? What does that have to do with my original post?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 18:53:16 GMT -5
“To which then Tay's going to prove her wrong going into the title match and then give her a run for her money there.“
The entire second half…
I don’t know even know which Brit promo everyone is fussing about. But I was saying In the end Brit would be right, even if Tay gave her a run for her money, in the end she lost and she isn’t in Brit’s League.
However I did kinda roll my eyes when she pretty much called the TBS title the you’re not Brit Baker consolation prize.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Oct 25, 2021 18:54:43 GMT -5
Britt losing the title will be an "event" and this doesn't feel big enough That's a big one, most title changes in AEW have felt like big occasions going into them while this doesn't feel like one.
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Post by eJm on Oct 25, 2021 18:56:44 GMT -5
“To which then Tay's going to prove her wrong going into the title match and then give her a run for her money there.“ The entire second half… I don’t know even know which Brit promo everyone is fussing about. But I was saying In the end Brit would be right, even if Tay gave her a run for her money, in the end she lost and she isn’t in Brit’s League. However I did kinda roll my eyes when she pretty much called the TBS title the you’re not Brit Baker consolation prize. I mean, that seems like a narrow way of viewing these sorts of things (and honestly, that feels way more like a you thing than a booking thing) but also I didn’t say “Hey, Tay’s going to win and prove her wrong”, I said “Heels say bad things, face gets revenge and proves her wrong by taking her to the limit”. Everything else has been your own assumptions and viewpoints about things I didn’t really say and it’s weird you focused on my point when other people have said the things you thought I said. So from that, I’m backing out of here.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Oct 25, 2021 18:59:08 GMT -5
Another problem with this build that I haven't seen mentioned yet is what did Tay do to get #1 contender status and a title match? I mean she lost to the Bunny like a month ago. Then got a rebound win against Penelope the next week. Those were her last two matches against name opponents. Since she's just been beating jobbers on Dark/Elevation again. So basically in her last two matches against name opponents she was only able to go 1-1 against the two heels who always lose when going against non job girls. Doesn't sound like someone deserving of a title shot. They at least could've given her a win against Hayter or something as it would give her momentum and would build into the match with Britt since Jamie's associated with her. However they couldn't even be bothered to do that. I mean we all know Tay has no shot in hell of winning but at least you can try to make her seem like a threat.
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Post by markymark on Oct 25, 2021 22:42:32 GMT -5
She was ranked number 1 thats how she got the title shot while the rest of the ranked competitors are in the TBS tournament.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 25, 2021 22:47:13 GMT -5
The rankings are really such a mess. People just get ranked whatever's convenient for whatever match they want to do today regardless of surrounding context, they constantly use it as an out to not have to tell a real story, and sometimes being #1 gets you a title shot automatically while sometimes they have clusterf***s or tournaments or something instead with no real reason given as to why each time's different. It's such a half-assed concept.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 23:29:26 GMT -5
“To which then Tay's going to prove her wrong going into the title match and then give her a run for her money there.“ The entire second half… I don’t know even know which Brit promo everyone is fussing about. But I was saying In the end Brit would be right, even if Tay gave her a run for her money, in the end she lost and she isn’t in Brit’s League. However I did kinda roll my eyes when she pretty much called the TBS title the you’re not Brit Baker consolation prize. I mean, that seems like a narrow way of viewing these sorts of things (and honestly, that feels way more like a you thing than a booking thing) but also I didn’t say “Hey, Tay’s going to win and prove her wrong”, I said “Heels say bad things, face gets revenge and proves her wrong by taking her to the limit”. Everything else has been your own assumptions and viewpoints about things I didn’t really say and it’s weird you focused on my point when other people have said the things you thought I said. So from that, I’m backing out of here. I don’t think it’s a “‘me thing” I just think AEW’s booking or storytelling isnt as good as people think it is.
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Post by asuka007 on Oct 25, 2021 23:30:44 GMT -5
I think the problem is less someone losing to Britt and more the fact that, because of how AEW books the women, they often feel like they lose momentum afterwards.
Statlander did not weak losing to Britt. But it does feel like AEW has no firm direction for her now that she has lost. She’s just kind of there along with the Best Friends.
Ruby was protected in her loss somewhat due to the interference. But now the best AEW can find for her to do is to feud with Bunny and Penelope Ford. No offense intended to either of them, but at this point feuding with them is as obvious a “we cannot think of anything better for you” feud as they come.
Etc.
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Post by r. on Oct 25, 2021 23:33:18 GMT -5
I want to like Tay but she's dog water in the ring
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 23:44:30 GMT -5
It’s just like Roman reigns to a point…
There’s no chance in hell any of these people are going to defeat him, they don’t really look at his level afterwards. We all know they’re waiting for Rock and in Brits case Thunder Rosa. I know in wrestling you’re supposed to suspend disbelief and believe that either person can come out on top. That’s a lot of head spinning to believe Tay Conti is going to beat Brit or even look good afterwards.
Anyways I enjoy AEW but I’m taking a break from this part of the board for a while.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 26, 2021 0:28:56 GMT -5
I mean, that seems like a narrow way of viewing these sorts of things (and honestly, that feels way more like a you thing than a booking thing) but also I didn’t say “Hey, Tay’s going to win and prove her wrong”, I said “Heels say bad things, face gets revenge and proves her wrong by taking her to the limit”. Everything else has been your own assumptions and viewpoints about things I didn’t really say and it’s weird you focused on my point when other people have said the things you thought I said. So from that, I’m backing out of here. I don’t think it’s a “‘me thing” I just think AEW’s booking or storytelling isnt as good as people think it is. Can you not see how a response like that would just lead to even more un-needed arguments though? Especially with the smile emoji at the end of it. That's almost begging for a heated response. If you think that way it's obviously your business though. Idk I think there's been more than one thread lately that's gotten way too heated for no particular reason on the Boards lately. I just hope the break you're taking does you well in the end.
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Post by berlynwright on Oct 26, 2021 8:42:14 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s a “‘me thing” I just think AEW’s booking or storytelling isnt as good as people think it is. Can you not see how a response like that would just lead to even more un-needed arguments though? Especially with the smile emoji at the end of it. That's almost begging for a heated response. If you think that way it's obviously your business though. Idk I think there's been more than one thread lately that's gotten way too heated for no particular reason on the Boards lately. I just hope the break you're taking does you well in the end. Dude, you post extremely negative opinions on WWE thread all the times to the point that I have completely skipped live threads for years .There's no need to get agitated with constructive criticisms like this one. If you're going to be on people's throats everytime they criticize something about AEW, there won't be many remaining on this forum.
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Post by Venti on Oct 26, 2021 9:19:46 GMT -5
Can you not see how a response like that would just lead to even more un-needed arguments though? Especially with the smile emoji at the end of it. That's almost begging for a heated response. If you think that way it's obviously your business though. Idk I think there's been more than one thread lately that's gotten way too heated for no particular reason on the Boards lately. I just hope the break you're taking does you well in the end. Dude, you post extremely negative opinions on WWE thread all the times to the point that I have completely skipped live threads for years .There's no need to get agitated with constructive criticisms like this one. If you're going to be on people's throats everytime they criticize something about AEW, there won't be many remaining on this forum. Honestly, it's funny(and this isn't about the poster you quoted, just a general thing) because I want to talk about AEW, but it's hard to have a negative opinion without having like 3 responses as to why you're wrong. And on the flipside, it's hard for me to be in the WWE section because everything there is negative to an overbearing degree. I'm not asking people to change their opinions of course, but it makes it hard for me not to avoid discussing the two top wrestling companies currently haha. I feel more relaxed just discussing the 90s and 2000s stuff and maybe MLW. I feel like this is not just this board but the whole IWC. It's overbearingly "WWE bad AEW good" and not really nuanced enough in my mind.
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Post by Venti on Oct 26, 2021 9:26:14 GMT -5
Anyway sorry for the double post but since I'm in this thread I might as well give my two cents.
I'd really like to see either Tay or Thunder Rosa eventually take the title from Britt. I'm on and off with Britt, sometimes I think she's great but sometimes her promos remind me a bit of 2000s Triple H with just tearing people down, like bringing up Ruby getting fired or apparently Tay's promos. Idk, I think I good heel promo should get heat but subtly make the face opponent look like a threat.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 26, 2021 15:05:47 GMT -5
Can you not see how a response like that would just lead to even more un-needed arguments though? Especially with the smile emoji at the end of it. That's almost begging for a heated response. If you think that way it's obviously your business though. Idk I think there's been more than one thread lately that's gotten way too heated for no particular reason on the Boards lately. I just hope the break you're taking does you well in the end. Dude, you post extremely negative opinions on WWE thread all the times to the point that I have completely skipped live threads for years .There's no need to get agitated with constructive criticisms like this one. If you're going to be on people's throats everytime they criticize something about AEW, there won't be many remaining on this forum. Nothing about what I said was me being agitated about his stance on AEW. Nor was I saying his constructive criticism was wrong. I was inferring that the way it was worded felt like it would invite more arguments and that was concerning to me because of how heated everything has been lately. But somehow that turns into me once again getting publicly called out for something that doesn't even correlate to what I'm trying to say and honestly just makes me feel like a giant shunned asshole. I'm so tired. I just went to the funeral of a family member today and I am emotionally spent if you want the honest truth about what I actually care about right now. This is not what I want to deal with and certainly not one of the first things I want see when I get home and decompress. And frankly I would ignore this and move on if it wasn't like the fifth time in a week I've gotten a comment like this. So fine. I'll respond. Nobody DMs me about issues they have. They see fit to lambast me in post after post in callout fashion instead of discussing things with me politely or in a way that can be constructive and then peg me as an issue that apparently in your case dates back years. How do you think that makes me feel? Yes I have negative opinions about WWE and I've even had things in AEW I've outspokenly said would be nice to see improved or try to give a different perspective if that's how I'm feeling. I respond and discuss things as civilly as possible and if I've been a bit more edgy lately with how I've come off then I apologize because at this point I don't know what more to say as it seems like the way I respond to people anymore just warrants that I'm a pest that people would rather not hear from anymore. I've been here eight years and I have discussed things here for eight years. I've made great friends here. I love it here and I love discussing things with great and quite honestly smart and thoughtful wrestling fans here more than any other place on the internet if I'm being quite frank about it. This is not what I want. This is not how I want it to be. If you think it is then please know that it isn't. I'm not trying to derail this thread... but at this point I'm so sick of this. I'm not the only one on this forum that is sick of this either. Please understand I am not someone actively trying to ruin your experiences on this forum. If you have issue with me please TALK TO ME IN PRIVATE or block me. Anything is better than this. Every single time. Thank you for reading all this if you did. It means a lot.
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