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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 31, 2021 20:14:36 GMT -5
It's crazy to think in this modern era, we've had 4 title reigns that went over one year.
The last time this happened was John Cena's 2006-07 WWE Title reign that went 380 days.
So of these four title reigns, which did you enjoy most?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 20:15:21 GMT -5
I forgot AJ held it for that long.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 31, 2021 20:20:08 GMT -5
I forgot AJ held it for that long. Which each title reign REALLY REALLY dragging out at different points, you could not be held responsible for that one. Even during the attitude era we never got year long runs. This is literally like the territory era for title reigns.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 31, 2021 20:23:12 GMT -5
Honestly, even for all its faults, might be Roman.
Punk kind of ran into the problem of being the third wheel in the Rock vs Cena angle, which hurt it. I think it also really didn't help that they were trying so hard to make him as a heel work.
Brock's benefits and drawbacks have been discussed at length. His lack of presence is the big one, disappearing for huge stretches.
AJ Styles' reign was unfortunately just really goddamn boring in its last few months.
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Post by Chiral on Oct 31, 2021 20:23:36 GMT -5
They all really sucked for very different reasons IMO
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 31, 2021 20:25:41 GMT -5
Honestly, even for all its faults, might be Roman. Punk kind of ran into the problem of being the third wheel in the Rock vs Cena angle, which hurt it. I think it also really didn't help that they were trying so hard to make him as a heel work. Brock's benefits and drawbacks have been discussed at length. His lack of presence is the big one, disappearing for huge stretches. AJ Styles' reign was unfortunately just really goddamn boring in its last few months. Styles' title run is probably more remembered for low blows than matches that blew the roof off the place.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Oct 31, 2021 20:26:03 GMT -5
They all really sucked for very different reasons IMO then which one sucked the least
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 20:26:30 GMT -5
I forgot AJ held it for that long. Which each title reign REALLY REALLY dragging out at different points, you could not be held responsible for that one. Even during the attitude era we never got year long runs. This is literally like the territory era for title reigns. You're right. I'm sick to death of these super long title reigns and hearing about how [wrestler] has been champion for [ridiculous amount of days] from commentary.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 31, 2021 20:26:39 GMT -5
Honestly, even for all its faults, might be Roman. Punk kind of ran into the problem of being the third wheel in the Rock vs Cena angle, which hurt it. I think it also really didn't help that they were trying so hard to make him as a heel work. Brock's benefits and drawbacks have been discussed at length. His lack of presence is the big one, disappearing for huge stretches. AJ Styles' reign was unfortunately just really goddamn boring in its last few months. Styles' title run is probably more remembered for low blows than matches that blew the roof off the place. I honestly remember it for being so relieved when Bryan won it and replaced the title belt with the one that looked like it was made out of a cookie.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 31, 2021 20:29:21 GMT -5
Which each title reign REALLY REALLY dragging out at different points, you could not be held responsible for that one. Even during the attitude era we never got year long runs. This is literally like the territory era for title reigns. You're right. I'm sick to death of these super long title reigns and hearing about how [wrestler] has been champion for [ridiculous amount of days] from commentary. I don't necessarily want rapid-fire reigns, but as a wrestler, I honestly think I'd maybe prefer to be a 3-4 month champion, with a couple of good angles, than a title reign that greatly outlasts the amount of material written for it.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 31, 2021 20:30:09 GMT -5
Which each title reign REALLY REALLY dragging out at different points, you could not be held responsible for that one. Even during the attitude era we never got year long runs. This is literally like the territory era for title reigns. You're right. I'm sick to death of these super long title reigns and hearing about how [wrestler] has been champion for [ridiculous amount of days] from commentary. Like, it was always the argument against “hot potato” title runs, that nobody was good enough to hold onto a belt for any decent time, but you gotta be careful to not have it so that nobody is good enough to beat the champion. I don’t know, it could all just be interpretation. I could go for a year of hot potato reigns, to be honest.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 31, 2021 20:34:26 GMT -5
WWE use to ALWAYS have the same formula.
Wrestlemania to Summerslam title run or Wrestlemania to Survivor Series title run or Survivor Series to Wrestlemania title run.
Those three time periods are perfect and help keep the product fresh.
Shawn in 1996, didn't need to face a 450+ day Diesel as world champion.
Bret holding the title was a much more fresh feel and look. That's a perfect example of a slimmed down title run that works. Survivor Series to Wrestlemania.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 20:35:06 GMT -5
You're right. I'm sick to death of these super long title reigns and hearing about how [wrestler] has been champion for [ridiculous amount of days] from commentary. I don't necessarily want rapid-fire reigns, but as a wrestler, I honestly think I'd maybe prefer to be a 3-4 month champion, with a couple of good angles, than a title reign that greatly outlasts the amount of material written for it. Ditto. I think Bryan's last reign (the one that ended against Kofi at WM 35) was the last one that I thought was perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 20:35:34 GMT -5
Roman for me.
He's been more entertaining, he's putting on the best work of his career, his opponents are doing great work, the title's seen as the top thing in the company and the matches are pretty good. Roman's giving his character the life he's needed since he's become a single's star.
Lesnar sucked and he impacted every single male scene in the company. Reigns is beatable but he's tricky so he wins his matches. Lesnar? He beat you flat, straight up, no bullshit. It's different. Punk had good matches but that title's seen as the lowest in his hands compared to all these others. Besides that, like I said in the other thread, I didn't like his "Shooty McShootensen" character. As for AJ, man had great matches and as a champion he seemed beatable...but he STILL won the matches somehow. Like, he was a better character than the heel, he got beaten up a lot but he still won and that happened so much, it was horrible man.
So for me? Romey Rome, for sure.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 31, 2021 20:36:12 GMT -5
I don't necessarily want rapid-fire reigns, but as a wrestler, I honestly think I'd maybe prefer to be a 3-4 month champion, with a couple of good angles, than a title reign that greatly outlasts the amount of material written for it. Ditto. I think Bryan's last reign (the one that ended against Kofi at WM 35) was the last one that I thought was perfect. Yup, like my post just minutes ago. I love the Survivor Series to Wrestlemania title runs the best. Short. Quick. And effective.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 20:45:51 GMT -5
Ditto. I think Bryan's last reign (the one that ended against Kofi at WM 35) was the last one that I thought was perfect. Yup, like my post just minutes ago. I love the Survivor Series to Wrestlemania title runs the best. Short. Quick. And effective. Yeah, 3-6 months is probably the sweet spot for me. I did really enjoy Adam Cole when he was NXT Champion for over a year, but that is a rare exception.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 31, 2021 20:51:50 GMT -5
Punk I guess?
AJ's should have ended once to Nakamura to put his heel turn over more...
and I've pretty much already gone over what I thought about Roman's in the other thread on this...
and Brock as the champion is one of things that pretty much killed their main event scene in the first place...
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 31, 2021 20:54:30 GMT -5
What could've made the Styles run better? Of the four, honestly, this one had the most potential.
Should he have just switch brands to Raw, so he could feud with fresh faces?
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 31, 2021 20:58:01 GMT -5
Punk I guess? AJ's should have ended once to Nakamura to put his heel turn over more... and I've pretty much already gone over what I thought about Roman's in the other thread on this... and Brock as the champion is one of things that pretty much killed their main event scene in the first place... They really f***ed up by not giving Nakamura atleast a 2-3 month run
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 31, 2021 21:07:15 GMT -5
Punk I guess? AJ's should have ended once to Nakamura to put his heel turn over more... and I've pretty much already gone over what I thought about Roman's in the other thread on this... and Brock as the champion is one of things that pretty much killed their main event scene in the first place... They really f***ed up by not giving Nakamura atleast a 2-3 month run Yeah, the constant nouble count out / double dq finishes were awful. the First match where AJ won fine... it kicked off the heel turn... but after that his constant failures to win killed him. and it's a lesson the WWE refuses to learn... because they pretty much did the same thing to Owens during the Roman feud...
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