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Post by koreycaskets on Oct 31, 2021 21:10:35 GMT -5
I know it's the unpopular opinion but I like Brock.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 31, 2021 21:11:55 GMT -5
I know it's the unpopular opinion but I like Brock. Honestly, I love Brock most of the time. |
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Post by koreycaskets on Oct 31, 2021 21:15:04 GMT -5
I know it's the unpopular opinion but I like Brock. Honestly, I love Brock most of the time. We don't need to see the champ every week. When he does show it makes it feel more special. |
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 31, 2021 21:15:37 GMT -5
I wanted to keep this more modern, but if John Cena's 2006-07 title reign was included.
Would it be better than all four of these reigns?
Did he have the best matches during his run?
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 31, 2021 21:22:11 GMT -5
Punk turning gave his reign a lot more longevity than the others did. I also had a stronger belief that he might lose it month to month whereas with Roman, I just don't believe he's going to lose it anywhere other than WrestleMania.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 31, 2021 21:57:44 GMT -5
Honestly, I love Brock most of the time. We don't need to see the champ every week. When he does show it makes it feel more special. We don't need to have him wrestle or anything but... like he should have a presence on the show. it was treated more like the title didn't exist instead of the Brock was this looming final boss. People liked trying to state it was like when Hogan was champion... but like despite the fact about how much wrestling changed from when Hogan was wrestling (and he was basically wrestling daily as champion as the tv shows were hyping live shows). But the TV Shows still hyped up Hogan's PPV matches and his storylines or whatever. Either by having his Opponent in a squash match while the commentators talked about him challenging Hogan. The Opponents having a promo. Hogan having a promo or massively occasional squash match. Running a storyline thing. Hogan was a constant and consistent presence on the shows. When Brock wasn't there... Brock wasn't there. No one was talking about him. No one talked about wanting hte WWE title. No one talked about challenging him. Brock didn't send in promos from his cabin in Canada talking aobut how he's never going to lose the title... We literally got nothing, and Seth was treated as the Defacto top heel because he had the money in the bank breifcase which ultimately ended up ruining his ACTUAL title run because by the time he had it they had already run all of the potential feuds with him for a year before. |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Nov 1, 2021 3:43:08 GMT -5
IMO, AJ low key had a pretty damn entertaining run as WWE champ on Smackdown. None of his Nakamura matches passed the one he had at WK10, but they were still watchable and compelling. Same with the Joe stuff (“Oh Wendyyyyyy” still makes me laugh)
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Nov 1, 2021 3:45:19 GMT -5
I wanted to keep this more modern, but if John Cena's 2006-07 title reign was included. Would it be better than all four of these reigns? Did he have the best matches during his run? To each their own, but that may be overlooked as well. Things like Cena vs. HBK at WM23 and Earls Court, that really good Lashley match, how he carried Khali to something interesting, etc. |
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 1, 2021 4:13:45 GMT -5
I wanted to keep this more modern, but if John Cena's 2006-07 title reign was included. Would it be better than all four of these reigns? Did he have the best matches during his run? To each their own, but that may be overlooked as well. Things like Cena vs. HBK at WM23 and Earls Court, that really good Lashley match, how he carried Khali to something interesting, etc. His LMS with Umaga that was the blueprint for getting a monster over.... But yeah, that reign would win EASILY for me. |
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 1, 2021 6:16:57 GMT -5
My pick of those listed is Reigns.
They go overboard with the Uso stuff, but it does kinda remind me of the Flair/Horsemen stuff from the 80s. But beyond that? His character work has been amazing and he's had bangers with a variety of opponents.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Nov 1, 2021 7:16:57 GMT -5
Punk I guess? AJ's should have ended once to Nakamura to put his heel turn over more... and I've pretty much already gone over what I thought about Roman's in the other thread on this... and Brock as the champion is one of things that pretty much killed their main event scene in the first place... They really f***ed up by not giving Nakamura atleast a 2-3 month run And what also didn't help was Nak being in another World Title feud the year before where he also failed to win the big one, so that made Shinsuke look like an even bigger choke artist. If they weren't going to give him the belt then they should have ended the feud at Backlash and move both parties to something else sooner. |
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 1, 2021 7:33:30 GMT -5
only Roman's managed to make me quit watching after 25 years after never messing more than 2 episodes in a row.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Nov 1, 2021 7:46:38 GMT -5
What could've made the Styles run better? Of the four, honestly, this one had the most potential. Should he have just switch brands to Raw, so he could feud with fresh faces? I think there were two problems. One was that AJ is too bland as a face to carry a year long reign. If it was 2016 heel beat up John Cena AJ then I think it would have been less boring. And a huge issue was the length of feuds and the number of rematches. Even by WWE standards it was ridiculous. He faced both Nakamura and Joe on FOUR pay-per-views each and just kept beating them. If you wanted to drag them out that long then at least switch the title. Nakamura could have won at Wrestlemania then dropped it back 2-3 months later and Joe also could have done with winning the title to help his main event credibility at the time. By the time that feud had ended and Joe had lost over and over again I think that was it for him in terms of ever being WWE champion. |
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Nov 1, 2021 8:23:04 GMT -5
I wanted to keep this more modern, but if John Cena's 2006-07 title reign was included. Would it be better than all four of these reigns? Did he have the best matches during his run? I think Cena’s reign easily blows the others out of the water. It definitely did way better business than all the others. Plus a year plus title reign still seemed kinda crazy at the time (I think Diesel over a decade earlier was the previous one and the closest we got was a couple heel reigns like JBL/HHH going 8-9 months) compared to now when we’ve had quite a few year plus ones in the past 5-10 years. Won the title from Edge in a great TLC match to cap off the best feud of the year. Classic match with Umaga. Great Wrestlemania main event with Michaels and their rematch is one of the best TV matches ever. One of the greatest 4 ways ever at Backlash. Got the best matches anyway ever got out of Khali. Had a highly entertaining match with Lashley at a time when Lashley was greener than grass. Summerslam main event with Orton was their best match together and it felt like a super hot feud at the time since it was fresh and hadn’t been run into the ground yet. Even the Kevin Federline stuff was way more entertaining than it had any right to be. And the fact he had to vacate the title due to injury and never lost makes it seem even more legendary in retrospect and really cemented him as the top guy of a generation. I think Roman’s reign can come closest to matching it. His new heel character has been great and he’s had a lot of good matches. I think how he loses it is so important. Long heel reigns really have to be ended in a satisfying way to be remembered fondly. If he loses it in a great match to a babyface people really want to see win it could be an all-time great run. If it ends with a whimper though (like Brock’s year and a half reign in 2017-18 ending and Roman not even being able to do it cleanly) all the great matches he’s had won’t matter to many and it won’t be remembered well. |
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Post by Venti on Nov 1, 2021 8:41:01 GMT -5
I wanted to keep this more modern, but if John Cena's 2006-07 title reign was included. Would it be better than all four of these reigns? Did he have the best matches during his run? As someone who got back into wrestling just as that reign started, it definitely went by fast it didn't feel that long, which is good. There's something exciting when there's a lead face of the company holding the belt for a year and defending it successfully that I feel like is missing in today's WWE. I stopped watching during the Triple H reign of terror, so it was refreshing coming back to see Cena clearly as "The Man." Out of the options listed in this poll, I went with AJ Styles. Great matches, and he's a guy I can just believe in. Brock is a close second. I actually always loved that he's like the WWE final boss, and it was kinda neat how rare it was for him to appear. Made it a bigger deal when he showed up. Unpopular opinion, but as someone who was a huge CM Punk fan, I didn't care for the 434 day reign. Not his fault, WWE didn't treat his matches like a big deal when he was champ, then they went and turned him heel and killed any momentum he had at being the top guy. His first reign from Money in the Bank to Summerslam felt way more exciting and outside the box to me as a fan. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 15:00:28 GMT -5
What could've made the Styles run better? Of the four, honestly, this one had the most potential. Should he have just switch brands to Raw, so he could feud with fresh faces? I think there were two problems. One was that AJ is too bland as a face to carry a year long reign. If it was 2016 heel beat up John Cena AJ then I think it would have been less boring. And a huge issue was the length of feuds and the number of rematches. Even by WWE standards it was ridiculous. He faced both Nakamura and Joe on FOUR pay-per-views each and just kept beating them. If you wanted to drag them out that long then at least switch the title. Nakamura could have won at Wrestlemania then dropped it back 2-3 months later and Joe also could have done with winning the title to help his main event credibility at the time. By the time that feud had ended and Joe had lost over and over again I think that was it for him in terms of ever being WWE champion. Yeah, AJ's face character was really boring. And the matches also tended to underwhelm or whatever reason. |
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 1, 2021 21:12:23 GMT -5
I always find it bemusing how beloved Cena’s 2006-2007 title run is only in hindsight, because… you know, I was there, it was NOT beloved at the time.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 24, 2022 19:48:45 GMT -5
The Punk reign was great. Two things I disliked about it that immediately jump out though:
1. Punk having the title and still being treated like an upper midcarder. Very close to the main event but not the main event. He had a great title defense against Daniel Bryan one PPV. That card was headlined by Cena vs. Johnny Ace.
2. Him going more than a month without defending it and him not being stripped. WWE was put in an odd spot as obviously you don’t want a title reign to go on that long only to have to strip the champ. Since he was heel by that point and still showing up to TV events I still say the easiest thing was to do the old trick where he’s booked in a match, does literally nothing, The Shield or whoever destroy his opponent, and he pins them by standing on the opponent with one foot. It satisfies anyone who has that kind of nitpick and gives Punk a little more heel heat to boot.
All things considered though it was a great title reign.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Jan 24, 2022 23:05:41 GMT -5
I wanted to keep this more modern, but if John Cena's 2006-07 title reign was included. Would it be better than all four of these reigns? Did he have the best matches during his run? Yeah Cenas title run was only 5 years before Punk’s, he held the title the longest since Hogan at the time and it was during the era of weekly tv so I think it should be included in the poll. But to answer your question, I’d say Roman is first because a heel with a long title reign just feels right, then I’d go punk because i liked the face to heel change in the end, then Cena because I was a mark for him at the time (but it would of ranked higher if he had someone actually beat him), then AJ, then Brock |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 25, 2022 2:40:34 GMT -5
Punk by sheer beautiful default
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