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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 9, 2021 19:41:01 GMT -5
Lita's dildo on WWE TV..... Pardon? Cryme Tyme "Ho Sale" at Survivor Series 2006. Lita's last night. Complete burial...
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Nov 9, 2021 19:48:29 GMT -5
Cryme Tyme "Ho Sale" at Survivor Series 2006. Lita's last night. Complete burial... I remember that, not her dildo. I remember them giving her bra and panties to the crowd.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2021 19:58:14 GMT -5
Mainly any instance where people were made to do things they didn't actually want to do (Trish Barking like a dog, anyone forced into the Vince McMahon kiss my ass club which was probably everyone involved besides Vince McMahon) Stuff like the Playboy spreads, Al Wilson, Val Venis etc didn't bother me because assumingly the talent involved was ok with it I honestly don't understand how the Kiss My Ass Club got away with being both Kayfabe and real life sexual assault. Even people who agreed to it were just trying not to get fired.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Nov 9, 2021 20:49:36 GMT -5
Post-Attitude Era where it was so obvious they were clinging onto the glory days. Yeah, the Spike years seemed even smuttier than the Attitude Era.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 10, 2021 6:55:42 GMT -5
Mainly any instance where people were made to do things they didn't actually want to do (Trish Barking like a dog, anyone forced into the Vince McMahon kiss my ass club which was probably everyone involved besides Vince McMahon) Stuff like the Playboy spreads, Al Wilson, Val Venis etc didn't bother me because assumingly the talent involved was ok with it I honestly don't understand how the Kiss My Ass Club got away with being both Kayfabe and real life sexual assault. Even people who agreed to it were just trying not to get fired. Oh don't pull on that thread in a wrestling context, man, it will only go badly
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 10, 2021 7:17:51 GMT -5
Post-Attitude Era where it was so obvious they were clinging onto the glory days. Yeah, the Spike years seemed even smuttier than the Attitude Era. Yep. I mean it was a different time (that and the AE years) when that was accepted as entertainment. By the higher-ups and the audiences. But post-inVasion they doubled down only on the shock sex TV and it seldom worked at this point and like I said, just seemed like they wanted to act like it was 1998 still.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 11, 2021 10:32:10 GMT -5
I think that, for anything sexual to really at all work in wrestling, it needs two meet two criteria.
1. Everyone involved needs to be comfortable. This is unfortunately a bar many wrestling companies have fallen short of meeting, and it's always awkward as sin, at best, and reprehensible at worst.
2. It needs to be done in the service of something more than the cheap pop. In one week, WWE a few years ago did two sexual segments, a rarity these days, and one of them worked, and the other felt slimy. The one that failed to not feel trashy was where they had some random dude walk in on Alexa Bliss being topless in a room to bring her coffee. It was just kind of pathetic.
By contrast, the same week, they had Mandy Rose in lingerie trying to seduce Jimmy Uso as part of a scheme, where it was revealed to be Jey and Naomi showed up to confront her, it having been a setup by the faces to get Mandy back for weeks of mindgames. It honestly didn't feel weird because it was in the service of Naomi vs Mandy and actually furthered the storyline. It also never came across like the people involved were being forced into it or anything, it just kind of felt like a proper soap opera setup.
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Post by Woo on Nov 11, 2021 13:08:43 GMT -5
It's interesting to me that all the team disgusting stuff I can think of happened post-Russo making me think that the whole "McMahon filtered out Russo's bad ideas" is just propaganda and McMahon is just as vile as he is.
Things I hated:
-The Diva Search Contests. These were disgusting. What does Christy Hemme eating a cake with her arse prove to anybody?
-Live sex celebration. Why do it and why did Lita legit have to be topless to do it?
-Lita getting slut shamed out the door.
-Lawler being disgusting. I hate his Attitude and Post Attitude commentary so much.
-Fufill Your Fantasy Battle Royals. Great so now we have all the Divas in school girl outfits and Lawler talks about how he wants to go back to school...
-Bra and panties, pudding matches and pillow fights.
-Dawn Marie's seduces Torrie.
-Kane rapes Lita.
-Trish barking like a dog.
-Anytime Vince kissed a Diva. I reckon when he's dead we will hear a lot more women reveal how uncomfortable they were with that.
-Kiss my ass club.
-Katie Lea and Burchill starting Vince's long-proposed incest angle.
-Mae Young.
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Post by cosmo on Nov 11, 2021 13:43:19 GMT -5
It's interesting to me that all the team disgusting stuff I can think of happened post-Russo making me think that the whole "McMahon filtered out Russo's bad ideas" is just propaganda and McMahon is just as vile as he is. Things I hated: -The Diva Search Contests. These were disgusting. What does Christy Hemme eating a cake with her arse prove to anybody? -Live sex celebration. Why do it and why did Lita legit have to be topless to do it? -Lita getting slut shamed out the door. -Lawler being disgusting. I hate his Attitude and Post Attitude commentary so much. -Fufill Your Fantasy Battle Royals. Great so now we have all the Divas in school girl outfits and Lawler talks about how he wants to go back to school... -Bra and panties, pudding matches and pillow fights. -Dawn Marie's seduces Torrie. -Kane rapes Lita. -Trish barking like a dog. -Anytime Vince kissed a Diva. I reckon when he's dead we will hear a lot more women reveal how uncomfortable they were with that. -Kiss my ass club. -Katie Lea and Burchill starting Vince's long-proposed incest angle. -Mae Young.
There's one thing that always got me, Mae Young. Nowadays they tell stories about how tough Mae was and what a trailblazer she was, but I only heard all that after she'd died. All I know her for is being an elderly sex addict that got beaten up by the Dudleys and hung out with Moolah all the time.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Nov 11, 2021 14:35:11 GMT -5
It's interesting to me that all the team disgusting stuff I can think of happened post-Russo making me think that the whole "McMahon filtered out Russo's bad ideas" is just propaganda and McMahon is just as vile as he is. Things I hated: -The Diva Search Contests. These were disgusting. What does Christy Hemme eating a cake with her arse prove to anybody? -Live sex celebration. Why do it and why did Lita legit have to be topless to do it? -Lita getting slut shamed out the door. -Lawler being disgusting. I hate his Attitude and Post Attitude commentary so much. -Fufill Your Fantasy Battle Royals. Great so now we have all the Divas in school girl outfits and Lawler talks about how he wants to go back to school... -Bra and panties, pudding matches and pillow fights. -Dawn Marie's seduces Torrie. -Kane rapes Lita. -Trish barking like a dog. -Anytime Vince kissed a Diva. I reckon when he's dead we will hear a lot more women reveal how uncomfortable they were with that. -Kiss my ass club. -Katie Lea and Burchill starting Vince's long-proposed incest angle. -Mae Young. What makes it worse is that so-called feminist Stephanie McMahon was Head of Creative for almost all of this.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Nov 11, 2021 14:50:59 GMT -5
Anything crossing into non-consensual is too far for me.
Other than that, go wild.
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Post by tafkaga on Nov 11, 2021 15:41:47 GMT -5
Let's try another one. Is any of the sexuality in WWE history remotely classy? Miss Elizabeth, she was always presented as classy I can think of only two times that WWF Elizabeth was used in a way that was remotely sexual: 1. The George Steele program where she was basically going to become Steele's possession if he beat Macho. Not classy. 2. Summerslam '88 where she bared her red swimsuit clad hiney to aid the Megapowers. Not really classy. Otherwise, her presentation was about as sexual as that of JYD's mother.
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Post by jason1980s on Nov 11, 2021 15:52:55 GMT -5
2. Summerslam '88 where she bared her red swimsuit clad hiney to aid the Megapowers. Not really classy. I wonder if Randy knew that was going to happen. It seems like something he would put the Kibosh on if he knew but if he didn't know and it went down he probably knows to let it go, because Vince is the boss. I think 1998, 1999 was the worst with the sexual exploitation as far as kid's my age then seeing it. But for the talent themselves it was probably worse in early 2000s with more women coming to WWE since it was literally only WWE, TNA or an indy fed. And with Vince being more disgusting, not having Austin to keep his mind occupied on screen. I remember being mortified when my grandfather, who did business with one of the places a WWF house show would be held, getting four free tickets to the house show. I felt totally embarrassed knowing my parents would be going to the show, August 1999 thinking it would all be crotch chops, sucks its and ho's though I think the only thing close to that was two Godfather ho's who were pretty well dressed.
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Post by doinkmark on Nov 11, 2021 16:23:17 GMT -5
Just had this absolutely horrible realization that HLA was the first time I ever heard about lesbians. Like, genuinely lmao. Billy and Chuck taught me what gay meant. When two men pretend to love each other as a publicity stunt in order to try to beat the TV ratings of a competing brand's wrestling show? Cuz that's how that angle ended. lol.
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Post by doinkmark on Nov 11, 2021 16:54:39 GMT -5
Goldust and his mind games.
Molly Holly is a heel for being a virgin.
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 11, 2021 17:25:30 GMT -5
It's interesting to me that all the team disgusting stuff I can think of happened post-Russo making me think that the whole "McMahon filtered out Russo's bad ideas" is just propaganda and McMahon is just as vile as he is. Things I hated: -The Diva Search Contests. These were disgusting. What does Christy Hemme eating a cake with her arse prove to anybody? -Live sex celebration. Why do it and why did Lita legit have to be topless to do it? -Lita getting slut shamed out the door. -Lawler being disgusting. I hate his Attitude and Post Attitude commentary so much. -Fufill Your Fantasy Battle Royals. Great so now we have all the Divas in school girl outfits and Lawler talks about how he wants to go back to school... -Bra and panties, pudding matches and pillow fights. -Dawn Marie's seduces Torrie. -Kane rapes Lita. -Trish barking like a dog. -Anytime Vince kissed a Diva. I reckon when he's dead we will hear a lot more women reveal how uncomfortable they were with that. -Kiss my ass club. -Katie Lea and Burchill starting Vince's long-proposed incest angle. -Mae Young.There's one thing that always got me, Mae Young. Nowadays they tell stories about how tough Mae was and what a trailblazer she was, but I only heard all that after she'd died. All I know her for is being an elderly sex addict that got beaten up by the Dudleys and hung out with Moolah all the time.
I think they needed to in order to make her into a legacy figure to base around a tournament and such. Yeah it's odd as most living fans know her only as comic relief. But she was one of two "legends" commonly seen since the late 90s, and the other....well, you know. As far as the above...I don't know, then, if someone else was around 1996-98 to reign in Russo and perhaps McMahon. Cause '99 was when things got off the rails, and dare I say when we first saw the Russo booking we disliked in WCW. Not quite out of hand, but the cracks were showing. Yeah the Lita thing went too far, but I can hear some say, "But she was a heel! And what about Jericho being put in the trash?". They'd not be completely right, but here we are. It was a pie. Unless it was a cheesecake, which can technically be a cake or a pie. Lawler definitely jumped the shark with the puppies nonsense. He was best as the pure heel announcer, not the horny tweener.
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Post by tafkaga on Nov 11, 2021 17:25:42 GMT -5
Goldust and his mind games. Molly Holly is a heel for being a virgin. Well, she also wore granny panties.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Nov 12, 2021 7:47:56 GMT -5
Goldust and his mind games. Molly Holly is a heel for being a virgin. Well, she also wore granny panties. And She had a big butt! Boooo I guess?
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 12, 2021 10:41:42 GMT -5
Billy and Chuck taught me what gay meant. When two men pretend to love each other as a publicity stunt in order to try to beat the TV ratings of a competing brand's wrestling show? Cuz that's how that angle ended. lol. They weren’t competing against another wrestling show at that point, it was purely a publicity stunt
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Post by Aceorton on Nov 12, 2021 13:17:37 GMT -5
Miss Elizabeth, she was always presented as classy I can think of only two times that WWF Elizabeth was used in a way that was remotely sexual: 1. The George Steele program where she was basically going to become Steele's possession if he beat Macho. Not classy. 2. Summerslam '88 where she bared her red swimsuit clad hiney to aid the Megapowers. Not really classy. Otherwise, her presentation was about as sexual as that of JYD's mother. Depends on what you consider sexual. "Damsel in distress" is a thing.
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