More successful faction

[Lance Uppercut]

Man, it looks like Xavier is headed to something with Roman.

If he wins the title, man that would be a hell of an accolade for the new day. Won pretty much every title, and the tag team title a bunch of times.

Then I remember the shield ruled the wwe since 2012 and they’re technically still on top. The new days accomplishments might just seem a bigger deal to me for now because of… “for the culture” and stuff… but yeah a lot of good stuff.

If X stays at the Midgard, he’ll at least get the Intercontinental or US belt before the end of his career. And if not, the king of the ring is not a bad consolation

[Woo]

The Shield were booked perfectly. I just don't get the New Day, their pancakes or any of their silly humor at all, bit ignoring all that all of the Shield were WWE champion.

[eJm]

I'm going to throw a curveball into the discussion;

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WWE allowed one of its talents to open up an entire gaming content division that, as a result, has gotten them into games like Gears of War and Brawlhalla and even special edition UNO sets almost entirely off of the success of The New Day.

Might it win in this debate concerning kayfabe? Not really, but if we're talking successful in general, that factors into it in my opinion.

[Mozenrath]

It'd be the Shield, but the New Day have been pretty goddamn successful, too.

If you want to be pedantic about it, New Day would probably win since they've had 2 world championships. Shield didn't win any of theirs until after the group disintegrated, whereas New Day has never broken up.

[r.]

Other; Bloodline. I see the usos getting 55 more tag title runs, Roman keeeping his title throughout that all and the 3rd uso getting 34ish mid card title runs

[Ben Wyatt]

Nov 9, 2021 6:34:52 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

It'd be the Shield, but the New Day have been pretty goddamn successful, too.

If you want to be pedantic about it, New Day would probably win since they've had 2 world championships. Shield didn't win any of theirs until after the group disintegrated, whereas New Day has never broken up.

Kinda where I'm at.  It's the Shield, unless we're weighing longevity, in which case, it's the New Day

[Ben Wyatt]

Nov 9, 2021 6:16:10 GMT -5 eJm said:

I'm going to throw a curveball into the discussion;

UpUpDownDown.

WWE allowed one of its talents to open up an entire gaming content division that, as a result, has gotten them into games like Gears of War and Brawlhalla and even special edition UNO sets almost entirely off of the success of The New Day.

Might it win in this debate concerning kayfabe? Not really, but if we're talking successful in general, that factors into it in my opinion.

When you consider that they took a potential huge albatross of a gimmick and have managed to not only sustain it for over 7(!) years, but tweak it here and there and have THIS kind of success, it's mind blowing

[dbrussel]

The Shield by miles. They didnt get as stale as New Day is.

[Magnus the Magnificent]

Evolution
Aprox. 50 world titles between them.

[Instant Classic]

As a faction for sure New Day, but as singles stars Shield no question.

[Dub H]

The Shield Changed the landscape of the two top north american wrestling companies.


I could argue more but I think that speaks for itself(even if I like New Day Much more than Seth & Reigns)

[Woo]

I'll also add The Shield's entire run was the best thing the WWE have done in the last fifteen years

[DZ: WF Legacy]

Both top tier factions, especially the first few years of New Day and The Shield's initial run before the reunion tours. I'm glad that they did wind up doing a Shield/New Day match at Survivor Series that one year. It was during one of the Shield reunions, but if there was ever a match to do that hadn't ever been done up to that point, it was the battle of the trios with those two teams.

I think overall The Shield were instrumental in building WWE's future when they were first around. They beat actual names, including teams that had veterans on them like Taker/RVD/Christian/Rey/Show/HHH/Orton etc., and had killer matches week-in and week-out. We had years of WWE being very stubborn with pushing new stars, so when they actually put focus on getting them over, it felt like we were finally moving forward for a change.

I don't think it's Xavier's time just yet, but it would be really cool if this is the beginning of a sensible build for him to win the big one just to complete the set. I still want to see a New Day triple threat PPV main event for the title...maybe that could be his ticket in?

[Slingshot Suplay]

New day has managed to stay afloat in the rough wwe creative waters for years and are finally getting their due after all these years. The Shield was groomed and pegged for greater things from the start, and got plenty of opportunities to succeed.

I give New Day the nod for succeeding in spite of their struggles.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

The Shield have multiple world title reigns across 2 different promotions (more if we count what Seth Rollins did in his Tyler Black days). I give them the Duke based on that alone.

[Deleted]

Depends what you mean by "successful."

New Day has...

- Arguably the greatest tag team of all time due to their tag reigns, length of time as a stable
- Singles reigns
- UUDD
- New Day Podcast
- Has had more creative freedom in the company whether it's their promos, characters and etc
- More personalized merch, outfits and etc available to them

Shield has...

- Singles reigns (which eclipse New Day's)
- Rumble wins

So...I'd go with New Day. Yeah, I can give some other stuff for the Shield but...if you're talking overall success, you gotta be able to look at their podcast, UUDD and all the stuff they do outside of actual wins. Their character freedom, the fact that their merchandise is able to be fleshed out more due to what they want. The fact promo-wise they can say what they want. They in general have way more freedom compared to The Shield and yeah, some people can say they're stale but we need to see what yall want.

I mean...if you're going to a company as a wrestler what would you want? Would you want a career like New Day where you're more free to be yourself and have other outlets along with it or would you want The Shield's where yeah, you get more singles titles and probably more money overall given you could be the lead guy but you're less free to do what you want, you can't truly be yourself all the time and you're dealing with way more scrutiny compared to The New Day.

New Day wins this.

Tbh, I don't see how people can say The Shield and then get mad at WWE for how they're holding back wrestlers and AEW isn't when if looking at these stables, New Day (out of every wrestler or faction in this company) fits AEW's ideology and handling more than anyone else while The Shield is the perfect example of how WWE molds their modern stars. The Shield and their success is the best case of "hey, this is what WWE does with people these days to the highest level" while New Day's like "hey, this is the best example of anyone being free in this company to the level that they can be." In a way this thread is a good example of "Freedom vs Handling" with modern WWE.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

As individuals, or as a stable?

Shield as a stable didn't win any world titles, won fewer titles overall, didn't have amazing runs with them. New Day each have significant solo accolades while not breaking up.

As individuals, the Shield win even without considering Mox in AEW, but just within the last year it has become a LOT closer than it was.

[Jindrak Mark]

The Shield is bigger but I think New Day is more impressive.

The Shield were groomed for greatness from day one. They debuted as a main event act, taking out John Cena and Ryback (when he was a top babyface), they attacked The Rock, they beat Daniel Bryan and friends (Undertaker, Kane, Orton, Sheamus, etc) every week for 6 months and they beat Evolution on consecutive PPVs. They split and have dominated the industry every since with world title wins, Royal Rumble wins, Wrestlemania/Summerslam main events and one of them even left and dominated another company.

New Day on the other hand were put together as a complete mid or even low-card faction. Xavier and Big E were doing absolutely nothing and despite being beyond stale after years of mostly meaningless IC/US title stuff, it still felt like a demotion for Kofi at the time. Not many people were expecting them to be successful let alone be one of the most popular groups ever. In late 2014 when they got together most people would probably have predicted the group would flop, Xavier would be released, E would be either repackaged or released and Kofi shuffled back into his old midcard gatekeeper role.

[Push R Truth]

I'm more impressed by The New Day. Why?

The Shield had guys that were lined up to be featured main event talent on day 1.
The New Day felt like the shit gimmick for 3 workers that were going to get future endeavored if it didn't work.

So it's like a sport analogy, what's more impressive: A bunch of superstars on a superteam winning a title? Or a bunch of washouts that everybody already gave up on that combine into a championship team?

It doesn't take anything away from the greatness of the superteam, but the loveable losers winning is much more impressive.

[DragonMasterP]

If this were a question about which one has had it's members achieve the most success it'd be the Shield easily, but in terms of success as a unit, New Day run away with it.