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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 12, 2021 23:24:08 GMT -5
Well, I haven't seen it yet, but Penn Jillette said that Paul and Ringo both came off as looking amazing, whereas John and George less so. Then said, should he happen to outlive Teller and someone makes a documentary on them, he's gonna make Teller look the fool too, plus he has the added bonus of no one really knowing what Teller sounds like, so he can voiceover what he wants. Teller has done interviews and he's spoken during some of Penn and Teller's acts. Yes, I'm quite aware Teller speaks. In fact, I know the real problem is getting Teller to shut up. The point of what Penn was saying was the public at large doesn't know what Teller sounds like.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2021 23:34:11 GMT -5
Teller has done interviews and he's spoken during some of Penn and Teller's acts. Yes, I'm quite aware Teller speaks. In fact, I know the real problem is getting Teller to shut up. The point of what Penn was saying was the public at large doesn't know what Teller sounds like. Eh, whatever.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 12, 2021 23:48:10 GMT -5
Well, I haven't seen it yet, but Penn Jillette said that Paul and Ringo both came off as looking amazing, whereas John and George less so. Then said, should he happen to outlive Teller and someone makes a documentary on them, he's gonna make Teller look the fool too, plus he has the added bonus of no one really knowing what Teller sounds like, so he can voiceover what he wants. I understand what the unspoken statement is there, but Ringo was always close to all three of them. Obviously, we know he and Paul are still close to this day. With George, even after he slept with Ringo's then-wife, they remained close friends until George passed away. John also maintained a friendship with Ringo no matter their physical distance, actively caring about and supporting Ringo's solo works after the band ended. Unlike the mis-quote, he'd gone on record saying wonderful things about Ringo, both as a drummer and as a person. This isn't even bearing in mind that Ringo played on solo works by all three, post-Beatles; George especially so. They, in particular, seemed to have a lovely relationship as musicians. I think that while the other three may have had varying levels of acrimony with each other throughout the years, they all always loved Ringo. They may not have agreed on much anymore, but it seemed they all agreed that Ringo was the one bandmate they consistently cared about, thought highly of, and kept in their lives. I didn't mean to get all tangent-y or anything, I just feel like some people have this weird view of Ringo and what the others thought of him as a bandmate and friend. There's so much out there, spanning decades, that shows how they really felt. Maybe it's a running gag for some people, I don't know. "Every group has someone they all make fun of. Like us, with Elaine" George I think, even the public knows, Ringo can take it. That's kind of why he's the punchline. I don't think anyone really thinks Ringo is terrible, he's the most famous drummer in the most famous band ever. but he's in a band with Lennon and McCartney and also George Harrison, who despite all his talents, is still an alsoran in his own band. Plus and I know this from experience, it's just fun to make fun of drummers.
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Post by King Boo on Dec 13, 2021 0:17:15 GMT -5
I understand what the unspoken statement is there, but Ringo was always close to all three of them. Obviously, we know he and Paul are still close to this day. With George, even after he slept with Ringo's then-wife, they remained close friends until George passed away. John also maintained a friendship with Ringo no matter their physical distance, actively caring about and supporting Ringo's solo works after the band ended. Unlike the mis-quote, he'd gone on record saying wonderful things about Ringo, both as a drummer and as a person. This isn't even bearing in mind that Ringo played on solo works by all three, post-Beatles; George especially so. They, in particular, seemed to have a lovely relationship as musicians. I think that while the other three may have had varying levels of acrimony with each other throughout the years, they all always loved Ringo. They may not have agreed on much anymore, but it seemed they all agreed that Ringo was the one bandmate they consistently cared about, thought highly of, and kept in their lives. I didn't mean to get all tangent-y or anything, I just feel like some people have this weird view of Ringo and what the others thought of him as a bandmate and friend. There's so much out there, spanning decades, that shows how they really felt. Maybe it's a running gag for some people, I don't know. "Every group has someone they all make fun of. Like us, with Elaine" George I think, even the public knows, Ringo can take it. That's kind of why he's the punchline. I don't think anyone really thinks Ringo is terrible, he's the most famous drummer in the most famous band ever. but he's in a band with Lennon and McCartney and also George Harrison, who despite all his talents, is still an alsoran in his own band. Plus and I know this from experience, it's just fun to make fun of drummers. Some people don't feel very jokey. I'm sure some are (who amongst us hasn't kidded like this) but it's just this thing I've noticed with people who just want to shit talk the Beatles and use Ringo as a punching bag. I guess what I'm really saying is some people = non-fans, when I break it down.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 13, 2021 0:47:03 GMT -5
"Every group has someone they all make fun of. Like us, with Elaine" George I think, even the public knows, Ringo can take it. That's kind of why he's the punchline. I don't think anyone really thinks Ringo is terrible, he's the most famous drummer in the most famous band ever. but he's in a band with Lennon and McCartney and also George Harrison, who despite all his talents, is still an alsoran in his own band. Plus and I know this from experience, it's just fun to make fun of drummers. Some people don't feel very jokey. I'm sure some are (who amongst us hasn't kidded like this) but it's just this thing I've noticed with people who just want to shit talk the Beatles and use Ringo as a punching bag. I guess what I'm really saying is some people = non-fans, when I break it down. The only people who I have ever heard talk shit about Ringo seriously were people who hated him because he wasn't Neil Peart.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 13, 2021 2:27:45 GMT -5
Confucius say "I never said half that shit." "I really didn't say everything I said." - Yogi Berra
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 4:13:39 GMT -5
Most quotes attributed to Oscar Wilde, Gandhi and Churchill.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 13, 2021 6:20:26 GMT -5
This whole thread has been attributed to me.
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Post by pinja on Dec 13, 2021 10:43:10 GMT -5
"This whole thread has been attributed to me." Corey Graves 8( ... 8| ... 8)
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 13, 2021 11:13:17 GMT -5
It was recently brought to my attention that revenge is a dish best eaten cold is not actually a Chinese proverb but in reality a line from a French novel. Makes me wonder what other well known facts I have got all wrong. Can anyone else think of any other similar examples?
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 13, 2021 12:01:08 GMT -5
Stalin probably didn't say "A million is a statistic", but it sure sums him up as a person.
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Post by King Boo on Dec 13, 2021 12:49:17 GMT -5
Some people don't feel very jokey. I'm sure some are (who amongst us hasn't kidded like this) but it's just this thing I've noticed with people who just want to shit talk the Beatles and use Ringo as a punching bag. I guess what I'm really saying is some people = non-fans, when I break it down. The only people who I have ever heard talk shit about Ringo seriously were people who hated him because he wasn't Neil Peart. I wish I came across more the people you have and less of the ones I have haha
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 13, 2021 16:34:36 GMT -5
It maybe a local thing from when I was in high school but the "The only thing they have in Oklahoma are steers and queers." line was attributed to R.Lee Ermey from "Full Metal Jacket" when in fact it was a Louis Gosset Jr line from "An Officer and A Gentleman'.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Dec 13, 2021 16:49:13 GMT -5
It maybe a local thing from when I was in high school but the "The only thing they have in Oklahoma are steers and queers." line was attributed to R.Lee Ermey from "Full Metal Jacket" when in fact it was a Louis Gosset Jr line from "An Officer and A Gentleman'. Texas*
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 13, 2021 17:00:21 GMT -5
It maybe a local thing from when I was in high school but the "The only thing they have in Oklahoma are steers and queers." line was attributed to R.Lee Ermey from "Full Metal Jacket" when in fact it was a Louis Gosset Jr line from "An Officer and A Gentleman'. Texas* This reminds me of my idea for the Keith David/David Keith podcast.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 13, 2021 18:09:48 GMT -5
Well, I haven't seen it yet, but Penn Jillette said that Paul and Ringo both came off as looking amazing, whereas John and George less so. Then said, should he happen to outlive Teller and someone makes a documentary on them, he's gonna make Teller look the fool too, plus he has the added bonus of no one really knowing what Teller sounds like, so he can voiceover what he wants. I understand what the unspoken statement is there, but Ringo was always close to all three of them. Obviously, we know he and Paul are still close to this day. With George, even after he slept with Ringo's then-wife, they remained close friends until George passed away. John also maintained a friendship with Ringo no matter their physical distance, actively caring about and supporting Ringo's solo works after the band ended. Unlike the mis-quote, he'd gone on record saying wonderful things about Ringo, both as a drummer and as a person. This isn't even bearing in mind that Ringo played on solo works by all three, post-Beatles; George especially so. They, in particular, seemed to have a lovely relationship as musicians. I think that while the other three may have had varying levels of acrimony with each other throughout the years, they all always loved Ringo. They may not have agreed on much anymore, but it seemed they all agreed that Ringo was the one bandmate they consistently cared about, thought highly of, and kept in their lives. I didn't mean to get all tangent-y or anything, I just feel like some people have this weird view of Ringo and what the others thought of him as a bandmate and friend. There's so much out there, spanning decades, that shows how they really felt. Maybe it's a running gag for some people, I don't know. That also plays into the popular perception that Paul and John hated each other until Lennon's death when the two became extremely close again in the 70's. Hell, they almost went to one of the earlier SNL episodes while hanging out in NYC and performed an impromptu concert, but decided at the last minute to not do it.
Really just a case of any real beef between them being rooted in professional differences fueled by the ego of being the f***ing Beatles rather than anything personal between the two. And also, Yoko Ono had nothing to do with the breakup.
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Post by peaches1 on Dec 13, 2021 18:15:00 GMT -5
The idea of Ringo being the untalented Beatle was something I heard pretty often growing up. I have no idea of it's origins, maybe because he wasn't an original, or because he was marketed as the 'fun' one?
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 13, 2021 18:22:55 GMT -5
I understand what the unspoken statement is there, but Ringo was always close to all three of them. Obviously, we know he and Paul are still close to this day. With George, even after he slept with Ringo's then-wife, they remained close friends until George passed away. John also maintained a friendship with Ringo no matter their physical distance, actively caring about and supporting Ringo's solo works after the band ended. Unlike the mis-quote, he'd gone on record saying wonderful things about Ringo, both as a drummer and as a person. This isn't even bearing in mind that Ringo played on solo works by all three, post-Beatles; George especially so. They, in particular, seemed to have a lovely relationship as musicians. I think that while the other three may have had varying levels of acrimony with each other throughout the years, they all always loved Ringo. They may not have agreed on much anymore, but it seemed they all agreed that Ringo was the one bandmate they consistently cared about, thought highly of, and kept in their lives. I didn't mean to get all tangent-y or anything, I just feel like some people have this weird view of Ringo and what the others thought of him as a bandmate and friend. There's so much out there, spanning decades, that shows how they really felt. Maybe it's a running gag for some people, I don't know. That also plays into the popular perception that Paul and John hated each other until Lennon's death when the two became extremely close again in the 70's. Hell, they almost went to one of the earlier SNL episodes while hanging out in NYC and performed an impromptu concert, but decided at the last minute to not do it.
Really just a case of any real beef between them being rooted in professional differences fueled by the ego of being the f***ing Beatles rather than anything personal between the two. And also, Yoko Ono had nothing to do with the breakup.
It's been built up as this legendary thing because that f***er Chapmen murdered John. At the time you had guys approaching 30 who wanted to concentrate on their relationships and the musical they wanted to make without other voices involved. Had John not been killed I'm sure the Beatles would have reunited, maybe not to record but certainly to play big events like Live Aid.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 13, 2021 18:28:09 GMT -5
That also plays into the popular perception that Paul and John hated each other until Lennon's death when the two became extremely close again in the 70's. Hell, they almost went to one of the earlier SNL episodes while hanging out in NYC and performed an impromptu concert, but decided at the last minute to not do it.
Really just a case of any real beef between them being rooted in professional differences fueled by the ego of being the f***ing Beatles rather than anything personal between the two. And also, Yoko Ono had nothing to do with the breakup.
It's been built up as this legendary thing because that f***er Chapmen murdered John. At the time you had guys approaching 30 who wanted to concentrate on their relationships and the musical they wanted to make without other voices involved. Had John not been killed I'm sure the Beatles would have reunited, maybe not to record but certainly to play big events like Live Aid. With how often the Beatles collaborated with each other post Beatles it certainly doesn't seem completely out of the picture.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 13, 2021 18:38:04 GMT -5
The only real knock on Ringo I have as an artist is that he isn't as good a singer as John or Paul. That's it.
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