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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 27, 2021 17:39:14 GMT -5
The NFL making that move opened the floodgates. WWE saw that and their top wrestlers testing positive, and decided "f*** it, we can take it a step further. We've got money to make." I believe the WWE has a mandatory vax policy in place though... so it would be the same as the NFLs. And if anybody tries to get out of that without legit having a medical condition that would stop them from getting the shot (allergic to ingredients), just say "Brock lives in Canada and he's made multiple appearances on US shows. Brock competed at Crown Jewel. Brock is vaccinated, and he's immunocompromised. Are you gonna tell Brock Lesnar you don't need the shot?"
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Post by stoptheclocks on Dec 27, 2021 17:42:42 GMT -5
Does anyone have the rest of the story behind the paywall? Like, I know here in the UK, if you are triple jabbed and get pinged by track and trace, you can ignore it as long as at doesnt specify it's Omicron, and even if it does, you can just test daily to avoid isolation. You're recommended to test using LFTs, but you aren't legally obliged, and many companies have told employees get to work unless you have symptoms - I know my employer has. What is the official guidance in the US? Does it change State to State? Can you not test, officially, if you have been jabbed? Is the story no testing at all, for anyone - or is the story WWE moves to follow official guidance, even if that guidance may not be what everyone wants? I just want to be sure we aren't being click baited by a paywall and to understand what the US system is actively currently telling people to do. There is no law anywhere that says you have to test before going to work (outside of possibly some very specific settings - eg. care home worker). WWE and the other sports leagues have been regularly testing athletes as a matter of course in order to make the case that they are being responsible and shouldn't be shut down. Those policies are now out of step with the majority of workplaces, which is why they are trying to row back on them given how many asymptomatic cases are hurting them. None of which is to say the WWE couldn't have waited a couple more weeks. But equally some of the outrage about it I think will look a little overblown as the world adapts to the new variant. I note the CDC have cut the isolation requirement in half (from 10 to 5 days) which is happening for the exact same reason.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 17:43:11 GMT -5
Correct. It's a very good system for maintaining business, but really bad from a public health standpoint. That's just what everyone is going to move to eventually. Covid fatigue is real. A 'test when I have to' rather than a 'test when I should' system is creeping in to everyday life, regardless of any business or corporate pressure. Not saying it is right either way, just saying what I am seeing. Yep there is a growing civil unrest you have one side demanding people to do this and that and the other side that just wants to live their life by their own choices. But the middle ground of it all is people are just fed up.
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Post by ayumidah on Dec 27, 2021 18:00:45 GMT -5
Amazing to me we heard nothing but about how Vince was so paranoid about it, now we've got multiple highly contagious strains of it out there, he's appearing on TV weekly, testing "isn't needed", and everything else going on. Wild.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 27, 2021 18:01:25 GMT -5
The NFL making that move opened the floodgates. WWE saw that and their top wrestlers testing positive, and decided "f*** it, we can take it a step further. We've got money to make." I believe the WWE has a mandatory vax policy in place though... so it would be the same as the NFLs. To my knowledge I haven't seen that reported. I know they got rid of some talent who were not vaccinated and many suspected that was why but I don't believe it's mandatory at this point.
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Post by Legion on Dec 27, 2021 18:06:08 GMT -5
Is testing free in America?
I genuinely don't know as your health system confuses me.
Still, even if WWE management are being irresponsible or following advice that people may feel is as such - surely the individual can do as they like and test as they like?
WWE may have decided it isnt required (if they have, we still dont have the full story here), but that doesnt mean you can't as a person, taking personal responsibility
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 27, 2021 18:07:47 GMT -5
At least they came to their senses here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 18:12:56 GMT -5
Is testing free in America? I genuinely don't know as your health system confuses me. Still, even if WWE management are being irresponsible or following advice that people may feel is as such - surely the individual can do as they like and test as they like? WWE may have decided it isnt required (if they have, we still dont have the full story here), but that doesnt mean you can't as a person, taking personal responsibility My wife and daughter got a COVID test at an urgent care on Thursday and had to pay for it. The at-home tests are definitely not free and are hard to find (at least in my part of the world). Our health care system is pretty easy to understand, really: If they can overcharge you for the most basic things, they will. And may God help you if you have some sort of major issue.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 27, 2021 18:15:09 GMT -5
Correct. It's a very good system for maintaining business, but really bad from a public health standpoint. The NFL making that move opened the floodgates. WWE saw that and their top wrestlers testing positive, and decided "f*** it, we can take it a step further. We've got money to make." The NFL situation is a bit more complex than that cause of agreements from the offseason and the union. But the bigger thing for them was if positive but vaxxed and asymptomatic you only need 1 negative test rather than 2 as previously stated. If you show any symptoms or you are unvaccinated it is daily testing
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Post by Legion on Dec 27, 2021 18:16:50 GMT -5
Is testing free in America? I genuinely don't know as your health system confuses me. Still, even if WWE management are being irresponsible or following advice that people may feel is as such - surely the individual can do as they like and test as they like? WWE may have decided it isnt required (if they have, we still dont have the full story here), but that doesnt mean you can't as a person, taking personal responsibility My wife and daughter got a COVID test at an urgent care on Thursday and had to pay for it. The at-home tests are definitely not free and are hard to find (at least in my part of the world). Our health care system is pretty easy to understand, really: If they can overcharge you for the most basic things, they will. And may God help you if you have some sort of major issue. Welp. Wish I could unlike this.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 27, 2021 18:21:54 GMT -5
My stomach sank when I saw the thread nearly double in page count since my last peek-in and oh hey look it's f***ing supervillain shit again. I love it when the business shares business overhead business portfolio business business and it's taken as a good thing because actually the multi-millionaires making decisions to serve the benefits of billionaires have it really hard and make lots of really tough decisions okay be nice to them. This is horror show shit and we still don't know the long-term effects of COVID, and most terrifyingly for this, if Omicron's supposed reduced severity will come with a greatly reduced risk of Long COVID, because oh hey if it doesn't this is going to ravage careers. Great stuff. Love it. I feel so bad for the wrestlers who are going to be put off work for months with complications and have to run the twitch streaming treadmill to earn their downsides before getting culled on another quarterly bloodbath because Nick "I'm the greatest business" Khan decided he hadn't managed to convey to wrestlers just how little they matter and decided to do away with testing entirely.
WWE can't decide if it wants to put on a match on the day of the f***ing show but we need to put wrestlers' lives in danger because a positive test might derail some plans.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 27, 2021 18:22:41 GMT -5
Can't test postitive if you don't test Good to see the Wellness policy is branching out.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 27, 2021 18:24:24 GMT -5
There really are some people that will just ride or die for WWE no matter what they do.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 27, 2021 18:26:06 GMT -5
Oh ok. And… why are you doing that exactly? I imagine they're losing talent to COVID who are fully vaccinated and show no symptoms and they want to avoid that from happening. I'm looking at this in disbelief right now knowing it's probably the actual answer, but also feeling like absolute hell right now along with my wife despite having 3 jabs each.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 27, 2021 18:30:05 GMT -5
I imagine they're losing talent to COVID who are fully vaccinated and show no symptoms and they want to avoid that from happening. I'm looking at this in disbelief right now knowing it's probably the actual answer, but also feeling like absolute hell right now along with my wife despite having 3 jabs each. A lot of people are just bored with restrictions and things not being like they used to be and want to immediately return to 2019, as fast as possible. They’re willing to gamble to everyone’s lives on they won’t get sick and if they do, they’ll just go to the hospital and be fine.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 27, 2021 18:31:39 GMT -5
I imagine they're losing talent to COVID who are fully vaccinated and show no symptoms and they want to avoid that from happening. I'm looking at this in disbelief right now knowing it's probably the actual answer, but also feeling like absolute hell right now along with my wife despite having 3 jabs each. I hope you all feel better soon.
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Post by marvelocity on Dec 27, 2021 18:37:20 GMT -5
I work in a New York nursing home, and we haven't been mandatory tested since before Thanksgiving (but vaccines are required for employment). It seems to be the way things are going for now. Hopefully at home tests will become more widely available and free soon; that is looking like the newest attempt at curtailing the pandemic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 18:39:57 GMT -5
I imagine they're losing talent to COVID who are fully vaccinated and show no symptoms and they want to avoid that from happening. I'm looking at this in disbelief right now knowing it's probably the actual answer, but also feeling like absolute hell right now along with my wife despite having 3 jabs each. Sorry to hear this, it sucks, certainly here during the holiday season. My wife and five-month-old daughter both have it (wife is fully vaccinated). Thankfully both just have mild symptoms. I expect it to hit me at any point, but so far I've been lucky (I'm fully vaccinated and have had a booster). I see people mentioning that you'd hope people would do the right thing and test themselves/stay away from others, but we live in a culture of selfish people who couldn't possibly be bothered to care about anyone else, which is why I bring up my family's situation. Wife's family had a Christmas dinner, three people show up that knew they had it/were sick, and spread it to 8/10 people that were there, which included 2 babies and a 97-year-old man. Like I said, we are in a society full of people who will not dare to inconvenience themselves by thinking of others. I'm sick of this pandemic just like everyone else, but if the majority would've approached it with the well-being of others in mind, we likely wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 18:41:46 GMT -5
I work in a New York nursing home, and we haven't been mandatory tested since before Thanksgiving (but vaccines are required for employment). It seems to be the way things are going for now. Hopefully at home tests will become more widely available and free soon; that is looking like the newest attempt at curtailing the pandemic. Which blows my mind due to the fact that those tests aren't the best when it comes to Omicron. Our best hope at this point is that, due to it's milder symptoms, Omicron becomes the dominant strain and we develop herd immunity.
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Post by ayumidah on Dec 27, 2021 18:50:37 GMT -5
PWInsider has confirmed the following WWE Executives are not at tonight's Raw taping in Detroit:
*Vince McMahon.
*Bruce Prichard.
*Kevin Dunn.
*Michael Hayes.
*Adam Pearce.
John Laurinaitis and Ed Koskey are running tonight's taping.
As we reported earlier today, WWE is also down a number of the usual Producers due to COVID-19 positives.
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