y4j1981
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Post by y4j1981 on Jan 30, 2022 0:42:05 GMT -5
Why should they let Ali leave? If he’s under contract that’s his problem. I get he asked for his release but they don’t have to give it him if they don’t want to. Please be trolling...please
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Post by glorious83 on Jan 30, 2022 0:45:36 GMT -5
Again it’s their prerogative whether to release him or not. When one side can terminate a contract whenever they see fit yet the other side can be held hostage doesn't make one an independent contractor does it? The entire thing makes the WWE look like f***heads but it's not like that's a secret. That it does. He’ll more and likely get it but only at their choosing.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 30, 2022 0:46:38 GMT -5
Thank God for the existence of AEW!
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Post by chazraps on Jan 30, 2022 0:48:40 GMT -5
Why should they let Ali leave? If he’s under contract that’s his problem. I get he asked for his release but they don’t have to give it him if they don’t want to. Why are you going to bat for a company wrongfully keeping an employee against his wishes?
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Post by glorious83 on Jan 30, 2022 0:53:11 GMT -5
Why should they let Ali leave? If he’s under contract that’s his problem. I get he asked for his release but they don’t have to give it him if they don’t want to. Why are you going to bat for a company wrongfully keeping an employee against his wishes? He signed a contract with them. Just cause he wants out doesn’t mean they have to give it to him. It may be against his wishes but it’s their prerogative whether to let him go or not. They’ll probably grant it to him at some point.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 30, 2022 0:53:45 GMT -5
Next year, they should run an angle where if Dolph or Kofi don’t win they never get another entry. Seriously, 25 years and I don’t think either of them had made it to the final four. Hit the bricks, guys.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Jan 30, 2022 0:53:52 GMT -5
This show was ass. Missed Roman vs Seth and the beginning of the women’s Rumble. Ronda winning sucked. Doudrop/Lynch was meh, the mixed tag was meh, Lesnar/Lashley was crap with a shit ending and the men’s Rumble was trash. Kofi damn near caved in his chest, botching his save spot and Lesnar steamrolling everyone with number 30 was lame.
I had more fun laying down tile for my in laws today than I do watching the Rumble.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 0:54:27 GMT -5
Again it’s their prerogative whether to release him or not. When one side can terminate a contract whenever they see fit yet the other side can be held hostage doesn't make one an independent contractor does it? The entire thing makes the WWE look like f***heads but it's not like that's a secret. Yeah... until Ali does something really dumb like Enzo, I'm on his side completely.
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chazraps
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Post by chazraps on Jan 30, 2022 0:56:44 GMT -5
Why are you going to bat for a company wrongfully keeping an employee against his wishes? He signed a contract with them. Just cause he wants out doesn’t mean they have to give it him. It may be against his wishes but it’s their prerogative whether to let him go or not. They’ll probably grant it to him at some point. Again, why are you going to bat for a company wrongfully keeping an employee against his wishes? What difference does it make to you? I'll say the difference it makes to me is that I hate to see an independent contractor allegedly asked to do something he "would never do," and then not getting his release from a company who has been wantonly releasing people during a global pandemic including people they should have kept on whose living status was tied to an employment visa while their countries' borders are closed. That last part doesn't apply to Ali, but I bring it up because if they're willing to cut people who fall under that designation, there's no reason they should be keeping Ali. My question is why do you take such issue with Ali in particular that you keep bringing this up and defending/excusing WWE as if they're in any possible way in the right?
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Post by Malibu Albino on Jan 30, 2022 0:59:46 GMT -5
Ignoring all the people they've released for "budget cuts," if they can grant Toni Storm's release when she was recently on TV and clearly being used, they can grant Ali's, who has been off TV for months. Again it’s their prerogative whether to release him or not. I guess, but in that case it's our prerogative to call them out on the hypocrisy. They can choose to do whatever they want, but that doesn't make them immune to pushback when they fire over 60 workers and decide to keep one dude.
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Post by Mecca on Jan 30, 2022 1:01:27 GMT -5
He signed a contract with them. Just cause he wants out doesn’t mean they have to give it him. It may be against his wishes but it’s their prerogative whether to let him go or not. They’ll probably grant it to him at some point. Again, why are you going to bat for a company wrongfully keeping an employee against his wishes? What difference does it make to you? I'll say the difference it makes to me is that I hate to see an independent contractor allegedly asked to do something he "would never do," and then not getting his release from a company who has been wantonly releasing people during a global pandemic including people they should have kept on whose living status was tied to an employment visa while their countries' borders are closed. That last part doesn't apply to Ali, but I bring it up because if they're willing to cut people who fall under that designation, there's no reason they should be keeping Ali. My question is why do you take such issue with Ali in particular that you keep bringing this up and defending/excusing WWE as if they're in any possible way in the right? Almost everyone who backs WWE are like sports fans who get mad at athletes when they want more money "you signed the contract" is what it always turns into.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 30, 2022 1:02:35 GMT -5
Ali has an entire thread about him, can we get this discussion out of the Rumble thread?
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Post by glorious83 on Jan 30, 2022 1:05:52 GMT -5
He signed a contract with them. Just cause he wants out doesn’t mean they have to give it him. It may be against his wishes but it’s their prerogative whether to let him go or not. They’ll probably grant it to him at some point. Again, why are you going to bat for a company wrongfully keeping an employee against his wishes? What difference does it make to you? I'll say the difference it makes to me is that I hate to see an independent contractor allegedly asked to do something he "would never do," and then not getting his release from a company who has been wantonly releasing people during a global pandemic including people they should have kept on whose living status was tied to an employment visa while their countries' borders are closed. That last part doesn't apply to Ali, but I bring it up because if they're willing to cut people who fall under that designation, there's no reason they should be keeping Ali. My question is why do you take such issue with Ali in particular that you keep bringing this up and defending/excusing WWE as if they're in any possible way in the right? In a way it’s no different if some athlete wants to hold out and not play for their current team. The team has the power to release him, trade him or let him hang in the wind. Granted with this business he can’t be traded so he has to wait on their decision whether to let him walk or not. Yes they released others with no regard but again unfortunately they have that power to do that.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 30, 2022 1:10:10 GMT -5
Again, why are you going to bat for a company wrongfully keeping an employee against his wishes? What difference does it make to you? I'll say the difference it makes to me is that I hate to see an independent contractor allegedly asked to do something he "would never do," and then not getting his release from a company who has been wantonly releasing people during a global pandemic including people they should have kept on whose living status was tied to an employment visa while their countries' borders are closed. That last part doesn't apply to Ali, but I bring it up because if they're willing to cut people who fall under that designation, there's no reason they should be keeping Ali. My question is why do you take such issue with Ali in particular that you keep bringing this up and defending/excusing WWE as if they're in any possible way in the right? In a way it’s no different if some athlete wants to hold out and not play for their current team. The team has the power to release him, trade him or let him hang in the wind. Granted with this business he can’t be traded so he has to wait on their decision whether to let him walk or not. Yes they released others with no regard but again unfortunately they have that power to do that. You really can't make that comparison at all. For one thing, those teams have unions. That immediately shuts the door on any sort of parallels. Again, why are you repeatedly going to bat for WWE over this? Why do you specifically have something against Mustafa Ali?
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Post by welshpenguin on Jan 30, 2022 1:25:44 GMT -5
LOL Maryse is trending in the Uk over people like Becky. New GOAT 😋
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Post by john84 on Jan 30, 2022 1:30:57 GMT -5
Just finished watching it. Some brief thoughts on the event. Reigns v Rollins - 2 thumbs up Rollins' entrance - 3 thumbs up Women's Royal Rumble - Meh Ending of Women's Royal Rumble felt a bit rushed Lesnar v Lashley - Meh didn't dig it for whatever reason Men's Royal Rumble - 1 thumb up - Decent rumble Lynch v Niven - 1 thumb up Phoenix/Edge v Maryse/Miz - 2 thumbs up for what it was. You have a lot of thumbs.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jan 30, 2022 1:31:03 GMT -5
The rumbles sucked in 2014 and 2015 and then those manias were great. I live in hope
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Post by glorious83 on Jan 30, 2022 1:33:38 GMT -5
In a way it’s no different if some athlete wants to hold out and not play for their current team. The team has the power to release him, trade him or let him hang in the wind. Granted with this business he can’t be traded so he has to wait on their decision whether to let him walk or not. Yes they released others with no regard but again unfortunately they have that power to do that. You really can't make that comparison at all. For one thing, those teams have unions. That immediately shuts the door on any sort of parallels. Again, why are you repeatedly going to bat for WWE over this? Why do you specifically have something against Mustafa Ali? I have nothing against Ali. All I’m saying in this is just because he asks for release doesn’t mean they have to automatically grant it to him. At this point they are probably doing out of spite but it’s their choosing whether he goes or not.
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Post by y4j1981 on Jan 30, 2022 1:50:11 GMT -5
You really can't make that comparison at all. For one thing, those teams have unions. That immediately shuts the door on any sort of parallels. Again, why are you repeatedly going to bat for WWE over this? Why do you specifically have something against Mustafa Ali? I have nothing against Ali. All I’m saying in this is just because he asks for release doesn’t mean they have to automatically grant it to him. At this point they are probably doing out of spite but it’s their choosing whether he goes or not. Nobody has said they have to. That's been your repeated response. Everyone ask why not And having nothing against Ali, your post earlier kinda disagrees:
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 30, 2022 2:07:04 GMT -5
Replace Bad Bunny and Shane McMahon with Finn Balor and Cesaro.
Drew McIntyre eliminates Brock Lesnar and wins the Rumble.
Those 2 details would've made the match way better!
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