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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 4, 2022 11:57:50 GMT -5
What I get out of it...
Hulkamania is like a cult.
Even Johnny knows the Irish Whip should make no sense in real life physics.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 4, 2022 12:22:56 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan was the only Professional Wrestler to appear on The Carson Show. Others never appeared because Carson had contempt for the business. I remember a couple of jokes where he referred to the business as "TV Wrestling".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2022 13:38:14 GMT -5
I always find it really cringe when people think they're so clever by "cracking the mystery" of pro wrestling being fake.
Honestly if it isn't completely obvious then I don't know what to tell you.
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Post by tafkaga on Jan 4, 2022 13:44:48 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan was the only Professional Wrestler to appear on The Carson Show. Others never appeared because Carson had contempt for the business. I remember a couple of jokes where he referred to the business as "TV Wrestling". I'd like to see Carson try to lift a 1000 pound giant over his head if it's so fake. |
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Post by tafkaga on Jan 4, 2022 13:48:07 GMT -5
I always find it really cringe when people think they're so clever by "cracking the mystery" of pro wrestling being fake. Honestly if it isn't completely obvious then I don't know what to tell you. I had a coworker in her 60's who used to point out it was fake and how the wrestlers were putting on an act any time me and another coworker would talk about it. We would argue with her and put on like we thought it was real and she would chuckle and shake her head like she was the smartest person in the room. |
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 4, 2022 16:19:11 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan was the only Professional Wrestler to appear on The Carson Show. Others never appeared because Carson had contempt for the business. I remember a couple of jokes where he referred to the business as "TV Wrestling". While Carson wasnt hosting this particular episode, it was during his era,,Jesse Ventura on The Tonight Show: |
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 4, 2022 16:26:19 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan was the only Professional Wrestler to appear on The Carson Show. Others never appeared because Carson had contempt for the business. I remember a couple of jokes where he referred to the business as "TV Wrestling". While Carson wasnt hosting this particular episode, it was during his era,,Jesse Ventura on The Tonight Show: Leno never had a problem having wrestlers as guests. That made him cooler than Carson. |
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 4, 2022 17:46:57 GMT -5
Johnny's comedy seems pretty outdated to me unlike some from his era who are timeless. I bet Vince and Gorilla loved a comedian like Johnny.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 4, 2022 19:14:56 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan was the only Professional Wrestler to appear on The Carson Show. Others never appeared because Carson had contempt for the business. I remember a couple of jokes where he referred to the business as "TV Wrestling". I'd like to see Carson try to lift a 1000 pound giant over his head if it's so fake.  |
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Post by mrpeacock on Jan 5, 2022 0:22:46 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan was the only Professional Wrestler to appear on The Carson Show. Others never appeared because Carson had contempt for the business. I remember a couple of jokes where he referred to the business as "TV Wrestling". The Great Antonio (Famous for Antonio Inoki beating the stuffing out of him) also made a Carson appearance. But that was more as a strong man/ bizarre personality. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 5, 2022 2:03:39 GMT -5
I wonder if it's so much contempt on Johnny's part as much as just, knowing a work, like how he relished in humiliating Uri Geller and exposing him.
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Post by mrpeacock on Jan 5, 2022 4:21:00 GMT -5
I wonder if it's so much contempt on Johnny's part as much as just, knowing a work, like how he relished in humiliating Uri Geller and exposing him. Did Carson have magicians on his show and treat them like that? Uri Geller I get because he was a magician pretending to be more than that. Wrestling is just wresting. It’d be like acting smug and saying “You didn’t really saw that lady in half. She’d be dead!” |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 5, 2022 4:26:23 GMT -5
I wonder if it's so much contempt on Johnny's part as much as just, knowing a work, like how he relished in humiliating Uri Geller and exposing him. Did Carson have magicians on his show and treat them like that? Uri Geller I get because he was a magician pretending to be more than that. Wrestling is just wresting. It’d be like acting smug and saying “You didn’t really saw that lady in half. She’d be dead!” I guess the difference is that magicians' whole conceit is it's a trick, whereas Uri Geller always professed, and still does, to be a real psychic. Wrestlers in the '80s more often than not really clung to the presentation of it being totally real, so I could see that being a little ridiculous to him on that front. Of course, sometimes he was just a jerk. |
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Jan 5, 2022 9:40:27 GMT -5
It’s actually easy to forget that he was still really famous even before he became the guy in the WWF. I believe he’s still in the AWA when this took place. So Vince certainly did not even create Hulk Hogan.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 5, 2022 9:47:31 GMT -5
Johnny always did strike me as a host who would look down on others, unlike a Jay Leno who despite his fame and fortune always was willing to come off as an "every man." And I think a guy like Johnny gave birth to the type of hosts over the last 20 years who have a higher and mightier act towards their audience.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 5, 2022 10:36:10 GMT -5
I wish someone would answer the Irish Whip question like this "We train so many hours in this ring, running the ropes, that it becomes hardwired; it's become automatic at this point".
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Post by Muskrat on Jan 5, 2022 14:51:14 GMT -5
It’s actually easy to forget that he was still really famous even before he became the guy in the WWF. I believe he’s still in the AWA when this took place. So Vince certainly did not even create Hulk Hogan. 1982 means it was almost guaranteed to be Rocky III related but Hogan would’ve absolutely been an AWA wrestler at that point. He went to AWA in early 1981 |
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