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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 6, 2022 20:42:30 GMT -5
Eh, I don't think HHH is being cut and even if he doesn't have his role, he'll likely still be on the board and have a role in that way unless health gets in the way. He also has enough stocks to keep some kind of role in the company or at least profit from whatever changes come whether it's a sale or anything else so out of everyone, dude'll be fine.
Now on the sale front? I really don't see the benefit for NBC or FOX to have something they'll be paying the touring costs for unless they plan on doing no touring after the aquisition since, like, you get sports contracts to avoid actually paying to hold the sports yourselves or else no broadcaster would really want sports. That's why I'm thinking there's something to this Saudi thing since, well, they likely won't mind having some kind of stake or even a potential future stake if the occasion arises.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 6, 2022 20:43:52 GMT -5
All Im gonna say is if HHH gets so pissed that he leaves and either buys out or partners with NWA or ROH, it's gonna sure shape 2022 to be maybe the craziest year of wrestling yet... coming off the year Punk, Bryan, and the entire original Undisputed Era showed up on AEW.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 21:13:41 GMT -5
Eh, I don't think HHH is being cut and even if he doesn't have his role, he'll likely still be on the board and have a role in that way unless health gets in the way. He also has enough stocks to keep some kind of role in the company or at least profit from whatever changes come whether it's a sale or anything else so out of everyone, dude'll be fine. Now on the sale front? I really don't see the benefit for NBC or FOX to have something they'll be paying the touring costs for unless they plan on doing no touring after the aquisition since, like, you get sports contracts to avoid actually paying to hold the sports yourselves or else no broadcaster would really want sports. That's why I'm thinking there's something to this Saudi thing since, well, they likely won't mind having some kind of stake or even a potential future stake if the occasion arises. I think if WWE gets sold to either FOX or NBC it really determins what happens to the overall company. I think a sale to FOX could end up being better because I think FOX would keep it as a touring show but might scale it down but we would still have the shows etc. To NBC it would be them getting all the footage for their streaming service permanently with no care to be paying for an actual show or touring and WWE pretty much dies. The issue lies in WWE overpricing themselves like they supposedly did when they wanted FOX to buy it but the price was too high and FOX just took SD instead.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jan 6, 2022 22:12:56 GMT -5
Yeah. I'm going to agree with some others and say it's only a matter of time until Trips is cut. Family be damned, they're disrespecting one of his loves. When you go to work and love what you're doing and then you see what you love get turned into shreds, what do you have? I mean Regal was like his right hand man in NXT. Trips said Regal would have a job as long as he wants one and that's when Trips was the head of everything. Joe was being built up as being someone to become the next Regal or Triple H there, that's why Trips had him learning all that stuff, that's why Trips was protecting him. One by one his kids, his friends and even his successors have been cut. So really, if you're Trips, what do you have? HBK is the only guy there that Trips has left and honestly speaking, Shawn might be next. It's only a matter of time until HBK AND Trips are gone. Family don't mean shit when your own family's damaging you and what you love repeatedly. Triple H had become so ubiquitous with the WWE, it's surreal to think of a WWE without him. It seems more and more to be a possibility.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 7, 2022 2:23:20 GMT -5
Eh, I don't think HHH is being cut and even if he doesn't have his role, he'll likely still be on the board and have a role in that way unless health gets in the way. He also has enough stocks to keep some kind of role in the company or at least profit from whatever changes come whether it's a sale or anything else so out of everyone, dude'll be fine. Now on the sale front? I really don't see the benefit for NBC or FOX to have something they'll be paying the touring costs for unless they plan on doing no touring after the aquisition since, like, you get sports contracts to avoid actually paying to hold the sports yourselves or else no broadcaster would really want sports. That's why I'm thinking there's something to this Saudi thing since, well, they likely won't mind having some kind of stake or even a potential future stake if the occasion arises. There were rumours that the WWE wanted to set itself with a base in Las Vegas so they could do a permanent Vegas show with one brand while another brand toured.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 10:58:59 GMT -5
God, if Triple H gets cut, imagine the dirt about the company he could reveal if he was so inclined.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jan 7, 2022 11:27:17 GMT -5
I know they already did this with Drake Maverick, but how do you fire, then rehire, then refire a guy in less than a years time? "Ha, ha! Amateurs!"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 11:37:26 GMT -5
I know they already did this with Drake Maverick, but how do you fire, then rehire, then refire a guy in less than a years time? "Ha, ha! Amateurs!" *Walks up to Stephanie wearing that* Marty: "OOOH YEAH! SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM!" Vince: "...You're already gone, Jannetty." Marty: "Worth it."
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 7, 2022 12:06:57 GMT -5
God, if Triple H gets cut, imagine the dirt about the company he could reveal if he was so inclined. Imagine editing their last three decades around Hunter.
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Post by msc on Jan 7, 2022 12:12:24 GMT -5
I don't think HHH will get cut, but I do think he and his allies might be bunkering down for the long game now. Vince is in his mid-70s and declining, and the Yes Men are all pushing 60 and not exactly bastions of good health.
What will happen in the future is one day Vince will die (no, I don't wish it) and short of a big sale to Disney or someone (which tbh feels more in Vince's mind than reality like so many bigger than the wrestling ceiling ideas he's had), someone will need to step in, who has the stock. Short of Shane becoming less of a Freebird overnight, that's Stephanie by default.
At which point, HHH, health permitting (and that is the big outlier we really don't know much about) will be on designated damage control to undone whatever this current regime have done to pro-wrestling. There are a number of folk sacked in the last 2 years that I think are only on hiatus from WWE - Regal for example here is sure to return if HHH has work for him.
The womens division, developmental, etc will take a decade or so to build back up from their respective ashes. By this time Steph/HHH's kids were be active voices in wrestling too, which further pushes what power is left by then into the Steph court more than the other pretenders.
They'll also have to do the equivalent of eating a lot of buckets of cold sick in public.
It's just that we thought HHH/Steph were going to be Tiberius and confirmed heirs. They're going to go the Claudius route instead. And that had a lot of dead bodies in the wake too.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 7, 2022 12:15:25 GMT -5
THE SELF DESTRUCTION OF HUNTER
Jim Cornette: if this motherf***er said 'business' one more time I was gonna smack him in the face so hard Steph would sell it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 12:18:05 GMT -5
I used to think that Triple H could never be fired but that's changed based on these past 2 years. So much has happened these past few but more than that over the past decade his position in the company's changed so much. He gained so much power and in that same amount of time, he's lost so much. Just type in "Triple H promotion" in Google and you'll see these numerous behind-the-scenes promotions he's had since like what, 2010. I mean, he went from Vince's successor to a guy a guy taking NXT over which in turn surpassed the main roster from a character/storyline/workrate/hype aspect to the point where USA bought it which is huge. He did everything you'd expect, he had a resume. Vince started to do that whole "lemme ruin what ya love" thing and these past 2 years turned Triple H from "next up to bat" to "Vince's son-in-law" and nah, that's wild. Man is so ruthless that even after dude had a heart attack he still kept hitting Trips where he's hurt.
We used to have the "man Trips made NXT and he's got a foothold on the company with his people, he won't be let go" excuse to use but now you can't use that. All you have is "he's part of Vince's family" now and that doesn't mean a thing to Vince it seems because once Vince dies, given how things are setup, that just means it'll go to who's next in Vince's camp. Vince doesn't even care about family that much, I mean look at the whole Shane stuff.
This attack is so blatant that I don't even think the biggest WWE lovers can deny that Trip's being punched in the gut.
Basically, Triple H's position in the company isn't as impervious as we thought and that goes double when the guy breaking it is his father-in-law.
And if he isn't getting fired I'm sure the idea of him walking away has been considered. He's probably weighing all his options.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 7, 2022 12:29:43 GMT -5
Eh, I don't think HHH is being cut and even if he doesn't have his role, he'll likely still be on the board and have a role in that way unless health gets in the way. He also has enough stocks to keep some kind of role in the company or at least profit from whatever changes come whether it's a sale or anything else so out of everyone, dude'll be fine. Now on the sale front? I really don't see the benefit for NBC or FOX to have something they'll be paying the touring costs for unless they plan on doing no touring after the aquisition since, like, you get sports contracts to avoid actually paying to hold the sports yourselves or else no broadcaster would really want sports. That's why I'm thinking there's something to this Saudi thing since, well, they likely won't mind having some kind of stake or even a potential future stake if the occasion arises. There were rumours that the WWE wanted to set itself with a base in Las Vegas so they could do a permanent Vegas show with one brand while another brand toured. Just to clarify, that was supposed to be a residency which, whilst it’d be a substantial length of time, it wouldn’t be permanent and be more of a TV taping style revenue ala Universal Studios for AEW. Having said that, it could be an option but I’m not 100% convinced.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 7, 2022 12:35:19 GMT -5
Road Dogg's return to Twitter took less than a day for him to already start liking racist shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 12:42:22 GMT -5
Road Dogg's return to Twitter took less than a day for him to already start liking racist shit. I guess since Jesse James was a racist slave owner, Road Dogg's living up to his name. What a bitch. Glad he was fired.
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Post by RareTradU on Jan 7, 2022 12:56:00 GMT -5
While I'm sure Hunter is aggravated with the direction of WWE and NXT, I'd say there is zero chance of him leaving the company. He is still a high power executive in the company and owns over 60,000 shares of WWE stock. He is married to Stephanie, who owns even more stock in WWE than Hunter and is constantly winning awards for Women's Achievements in sports, and is more of a McMahon than anyone is mentioning. He has the same dedication to WWE that Vince has regardless of how the hardcore fans feel. He will stay, he will train his kids to wrestle or work backstage at WWE, he will make millions as an executive or make even more if the company is sold. I could see him doing something if the company is sold but as long as WWE is run by a McMahon he is there and will watch the company's fanbase dwindle while cashing in. WWE no longer cares about the hardcore, long term fans view of the company. They are an entertainment BRAND and that is it. There will never be another Stone Cold, Undertaker, Hulk Hogan, John Cena, or the Rock. WWE is the brand and anything other than that does not matter to them anymore.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 7, 2022 12:56:03 GMT -5
I used to think that Triple H could never be fired but that's changed based on these past 2 years. So much has happened these past few but more than that over the past decade his position in the company's changed so much. He gained so much power and in that same amount of time, he's lost so much. Just type in "Triple H promotion" in Google and you'll see these numerous behind-the-scenes promotions he's had since like what, 2010. I mean, he went from Vince's successor to a guy a guy taking NXT over which in turn surpassed the main roster from a character/storyline/workrate/hype aspect to the point where USA bought it which is huge. He did everything you'd expect, he had a resume. Vince started to do that whole "lemme ruin what ya love" thing and these past 2 years turned Triple H from "next up to bat" to "Vince's son-in-law" and nah, that's wild. Man is so ruthless that even after dude had a heart attack he still kept hitting Trips where he's hurt.
We used to have the "man Trips made NXT and he's got a foothold on the company with his people, he won't be let go" excuse to use but now you can't use that. All you have is "he's part of Vince's family" now and that doesn't mean a thing to Vince it seems because once Vince dies, given how things are setup, that just means it'll go to who's next in Vince's camp. Vince doesn't even care about family that much, I mean look at the whole Shane stuff.
This attack is so blatant that I don't even think the biggest WWE lovers can deny that Trip's being punched in the gut.
Basically, Triple H's position in the company isn't as impervious as we thought and that goes double when the guy breaking it is his father-in-law.
And if he isn't getting fired I'm sure the idea of him walking away has been considered. He's probably weighing all his options. I am firmly convinced this has to do with the failure of the new XFL. Vince had been fine with running the WWE as if it were still privately owned for years and years. Yes he wanted it profitable but he was willing to do unprofitable things if it suited his fancy. He just wanted wrestling to fund his attempts to make it in a mainstream entertainment venture. Like football. So Vince was fine letting Triple H do what he wanted and one day take over WWE because Vince would be off making his movies or being married to a senator. Or running a successful football league. Then the XFL fails again and now Vince has given up. He is stuck being a wrestling promoter so dammit he will be the most successful wrestling promoter possible. Make the stock the highest it could ever be and sell the company for billions like Marvel or Star Wars. Then no one could ever say he was not an amazing businessman.
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Post by Rest easy big bro on Jan 7, 2022 13:00:56 GMT -5
I don't think HHH will get cut, but I do think he and his allies might be bunkering down for the long game now. Vince is in his mid-70s and declining, and the Yes Men are all pushing 60 and not exactly bastions of good health. What will happen in the future is one day Vince will die (no, I don't wish it) and short of a big sale to Disney or someone (which tbh feels more in Vince's mind than reality like so many bigger than the wrestling ceiling ideas he's had), someone will need to step in, who has the stock. Short of Shane becoming less of a Freebird overnight, that's Stephanie by default. At which point, HHH, health permitting (and that is the big outlier we really don't know much about) will be on designated damage control to undone whatever this current regime have done to pro-wrestling. There are a number of folk sacked in the last 2 years that I think are only on hiatus from WWE - Regal for example here is sure to return if HHH has work for him. The womens division, developmental, etc will take a decade or so to build back up from their respective ashes. By this time Steph/HHH's kids were be active voices in wrestling too, which further pushes what power is left by then into the Steph court more than the other pretenders. They'll also have to do the equivalent of eating a lot of buckets of cold sick in public. It's just that we thought HHH/Steph were going to be Tiberius and confirmed heirs. They're going to go the Claudius route instead. And that had a lot of dead bodies in the wake too. Some great points there. This doesn't factor in Nick Khan Thou, While he is mostly in charge of revenue, It's not impossible to imagine Vince either getting him to learn other facets of the company or Hiring people with his mindset. Vince may be mentally declining but there is no way he hasn't had some kind of contingency to ensure that the product continues to be run in accordance with his wishes long after he's gone. Conservatively Vince could be in control until his mid 80's. Hell, I had a stubborn rotten landlord who was actively repairing his properties at 91 before he finally gave it up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 13:01:26 GMT -5
I used to think that Triple H could never be fired but that's changed based on these past 2 years. So much has happened these past few but more than that over the past decade his position in the company's changed so much. He gained so much power and in that same amount of time, he's lost so much. Just type in "Triple H promotion" in Google and you'll see these numerous behind-the-scenes promotions he's had since like what, 2010. I mean, he went from Vince's successor to a guy a guy taking NXT over which in turn surpassed the main roster from a character/storyline/workrate/hype aspect to the point where USA bought it which is huge. He did everything you'd expect, he had a resume. Vince started to do that whole "lemme ruin what ya love" thing and these past 2 years turned Triple H from "next up to bat" to "Vince's son-in-law" and nah, that's wild. Man is so ruthless that even after dude had a heart attack he still kept hitting Trips where he's hurt.
We used to have the "man Trips made NXT and he's got a foothold on the company with his people, he won't be let go" excuse to use but now you can't use that. All you have is "he's part of Vince's family" now and that doesn't mean a thing to Vince it seems because once Vince dies, given how things are setup, that just means it'll go to who's next in Vince's camp. Vince doesn't even care about family that much, I mean look at the whole Shane stuff.
This attack is so blatant that I don't even think the biggest WWE lovers can deny that Trip's being punched in the gut.
Basically, Triple H's position in the company isn't as impervious as we thought and that goes double when the guy breaking it is his father-in-law.
And if he isn't getting fired I'm sure the idea of him walking away has been considered. He's probably weighing all his options. I am firmly convinced this has to do with the failure of the new XFL. Vince had been fine with running the WWE as if it were still privately owned for years and years. Yes he wanted it profitable but he was willing to do unprofitable things if it suited his fancy. He just wanted wrestling to fund his attempts to make it in a mainstream entertainment venture. Like football. So Vince was fine letting Triple H do what he wanted and one day take over WWE because Vince would be off making his movies or being married to a senator. Or running a successful football league. Then the XFL fails again and now Vince has given up. He is stuck being a wrestling promoter so dammit he will be the most successful wrestling promoter possible. Make the stock the highest it could ever be and sell the company for billions like Marvel or Star Wars. Then no one could ever say he was not an amazing businessman. I'm not even gonna lie to you. I forgot the XFL was revived years ago lmao. I completely forgot about that. That definitely pissed Vince off. That combined with Linda's fail combined with the failure of certain politicians they publicly surprised, yeah, that's big. When you see your son-in-law succeeding and you continuously failing even when he set you up with new talent, that's only going to make you angrier at him and what he's doing. We can't forget the Roman Reigns Experiment. We spent what, 5-6 years to get this guy over and it's been such a huge failure that it has it's own Wikipedia article. Now you find out that the one thing that gets him over is doing exactly what everyone's been telling you to do with him for years. Yeah. We need to really speak on what exactly Vince has "succeeded in" these past 8 years.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jan 7, 2022 13:02:34 GMT -5
It's just that we thought HHH/Steph were going to be Tiberius and confirmed heirs. They're going to go the Claudius route instead. And that had a lot of dead bodies in the wake too. I am geeking out over you making this comparison. Claudius is my favorite historical figure. Anyway carry on.
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