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Post by mistery on Jan 5, 2022 17:10:48 GMT -5
I mean, he ain't wrong. I think the biggest loser in all of this in the grand scheme of things is Triple H. Jobs can come and jobs can go, but now that dude is branded a failure forever. He was once thought of as the guy to take over the reigns but now it's clear Nick Khan's the man until they sell. Or until Nick Khan messes up and somehow pisses Vince off and gets fired on a whim. Especially since he's already messed up once apparently, with his regime already losing one of WWE's major TV deals (Japan) officially at the end of the month. Which will very likely be asked about in the next investors call. Because unless WWE has a surprise announcement lined up, Nick Khan dissolved the 25+ Year partnership they had with jSports in Japan for no reason. There are rumors that WWE is in talks with Abema, but it's just that, rumors.
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Post by Totorob101 on Jan 5, 2022 17:11:17 GMT -5
I mean, he ain't wrong. I think the biggest loser in all of this in the grand scheme of things is Triple H. Jobs can come and jobs can go, but now that dude is branded a failure forever. He was once thought of as the guy to take over the reigns but now it's clear Nick Khan's the man until they sell. Agreed, Triple H is finished and won't be trusted in such a position again,but with his health issues perhaps its all for the best so he can take some time away from the business.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 5, 2022 17:11:46 GMT -5
I want to say that it seemed Joe was moving into that slot Regal had from the way he and Hunter were talking. Then again the way things are going he's probably gone again as well And really other than Regal I'm not sure if say there is any real loss. That is also a good point that Joe seems to be transitioning into the Regal role
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2022 17:15:06 GMT -5
I agree with the sentiment here, but Vince was also the one who decided to throw NXT at AEW and "Go to War" at their own volition, and NXT paid for it dearly. I still think NXT would still be relatively the same if it had just went to FS1 like it was supposed to do instead of getting outright exposed on broadcast television, now it's hitting the hard reset button and feels even less of a fit on broadcast television. At this rate I have to truly wonder who is staying from HHH's crop. Some might get called up, some might get cut, but WWE seems way more content sending talent like AJ Styles and Matt Riddle down to work with the greenhorns than having people like Sarray even work in the promotion at this point.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jan 5, 2022 17:15:20 GMT -5
or Triple H knows stars when he sees them even if he didn't "make them" and Vince just has to create everything. Triple H is flawed, but without him and his NXT what happens to WWE in 2014 to 2021 without NXT? How many more fans would have been lost? Also how different would AEW be like from the beginning?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 5, 2022 17:16:10 GMT -5
I mean...I'd say Vince gets some blame for letting him basically do that rather than figure out what they both wanted from developmental. Yeah, a combination would be great. There are some things I really like about 2.0, namely bringing in some new characters and gimmicks. Tony D'Angelo as a totally legit businessman? I like that. Tiffany Stratton as a spoiled athletic rich girl? I can get behind that. Bringing in more characters and gimmicks I support.
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Post by Kalmia on Jan 5, 2022 17:16:23 GMT -5
If Regal still wants to be involved with wrestling, if I'm AEW, GCW, MLW, or any other company in the US, I'm straight on the phone to him. He's not a wrestler anymore, but he'd be invaluable backstage and when training.
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Post by Mike Strike on Jan 5, 2022 17:17:44 GMT -5
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Post by Chiral on Jan 5, 2022 17:19:11 GMT -5
I hope Road Dogg just f***s off, but it's funny picturing him trying to convince AEW to get rid of W-L records and the rankings system because wins and losses don't matter!!! "I say you give Ogogo the world title, have him hold it for 17 months, and give him two little guys who distract the face until Ogogo hits his finisher. Wins and losses don't matter!"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 17:19:27 GMT -5
More dumb mistakes. Not surprised. Just wish a lot of these dope people still had their jobs. I mean, he ain't wrong. I think the biggest loser in all of this in the grand scheme of things is Triple H. Jobs can come and jobs can go, but now that dude is branded a failure forever. He was once thought of as the guy to take over the reigns but now it's clear Nick Khan's the man until they sell. Nah, I don't agree with that. Triple H wasn't a failure. NXT was amazing during his years. It was the hottest thing around that even made WWE switch things up once it got poppin. Because of him WWE is thriving today because without that NXT system and roster, Vince would just have Edge vs Miz.
Vince and his dudes are the failure. How do you have "straight out the firepan into the fire" level dopeness and then completely turn it into a frozen chicken legs? Trips gave you the talent, the storylines, the history, the foundation for these people, he set it all up and yet your main roster's failing?
Just goes to show that it's not about the tool, it's about how you use it.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 5, 2022 17:20:04 GMT -5
Bryan Alvarez is right, imagine firing Regal?
Another company has to pick him up. He’s the perfect guy to have as a trainer/backstage asset.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 17:20:06 GMT -5
I agree with the sentiment here, but Vince was also the one who decided to throw NXT at AEW and "Go to War" at their own volition, and NXT paid for it dearly. I still think NXT would still be relatively the same if it had just went to FS1 like it was supposed to do instead of getting outright exposed on broadcast television, now it's hitting the hard reset button and feels even less of a fit on broadcast television. At this rate I have to truly wonder who is staying from HHH's crop. Some might get called up, some might get cut, but WWE seems way more content sending talent like AJ Styles and Matt Riddle down to work with the greenhorns than having people like Sarray even work in the promotion at this point. Yeah, that's the thing. NXT was critically acclaimed and highly successful before AEW came into play. It was not a "money pit" because it was one of the biggest draws for Network subscribers. It was the arrogant notion that NXT would just stamp AEW out of existence that has caused it to become the "failure" that it is. I'm not sure it's fair to put that entirely on Triple H's shoulders. It's equal parts WWE's out-of-touch arrogance, the unprecedented success of AEW as an upstart pro wrestling company, decisions beyond HHH's control causing NXT to lose pretty much all of its established talent, and the fact that WWE killed the Network we all knew and loved.
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Post by r. on Jan 5, 2022 17:20:53 GMT -5
I know people don't usually go for onscreen authority, but hear me out.
Regal as a GM of AEW.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jan 5, 2022 17:21:12 GMT -5
"BLOOD & GUTS" might not sound as impactful, but I still want to hear Regal yell that on Dynamite anyway.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jan 5, 2022 17:23:31 GMT -5
"BLOOD & GUTS" might not sound as impactful, but I still want to hear Regal yell that on Dynamite anyway. Undisputed Elite vs. Super Elite with Regal yelling BLOOD AND GUTS would be f***ing awesome and the pop would be huge.
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Post by eJm on Jan 5, 2022 17:25:41 GMT -5
I agree with the sentiment here, but Vince was also the one who decided to throw NXT at AEW and "Go to War" at their own volition, and NXT paid for it dearly. I still think NXT would still be relatively the same if it had just went to FS1 like it was supposed to do instead of getting outright exposed on broadcast television, now it's hitting the hard reset button and feels even less of a fit on broadcast television. At this rate I have to truly wonder who is staying from HHH's crop. Some might get called up, some might get cut, but WWE seems way more content sending talent like AJ Styles and Matt Riddle down to work with the greenhorns than having people like Sarray even work in the promotion at this point. Yeah, that's the thing. NXT was critically acclaimed and highly successful before AEW came into play. It was not a "money pit" because it was one of the biggest draws for Network subscribers. It was the arrogant notion that NXT would just stamp AEW out of existence that has caused it to become the "failure" that it is. I'm not sure it's fair to put that entirely on Triple H's shoulders. It's equal parts WWE's out-of-touch arrogance, the unprecedented success of AEW as an upstart pro wrestling company, decisions beyond HHH's control causing NXT to lose pretty much all of its established talent, and the fact that WWE killed the Network we all knew and loved. I'd say one of the weirdest things they did was lump NXT events with the Performance Centre for the finances because, well, the PC wasn't ever going to make a profit. That's not how schools work, the costs are overridden by the talent they acquire, develop and put on the main roster or even at those NXT events. Of course they look like money pits if you're going to put them to those standards. If the NXT shows were under the same bracket as live events, a better story could really be told and it'd be in the same degree as how the live shows are. Like, if you want to put the Full Sale shows there, sure, but then you're putting the merchandise sales in there and those possibly can't override the cost of holding the PC which, and I need to stress this every time, is a money pit for a reason. If you charged for use of the PC, who'd go to the PC? Especially with NCAA graduates potentially going there, you're basically saying to them "Eh, UFC/Professional Sports is better for you, kid" from the off.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 5, 2022 17:25:54 GMT -5
or Triple H knows stars when he sees them even if he didn't "make them" and Vince just has to create everything. Triple H is flawed, but without him and his NXT what happens to WWE in 2014 to 2021 without NXT? How many more fans would have been lost? Also how different would AEW be like from the beginning? Imagine if NXT never gave the much needed boost to the way women's wrestling was viewed. They were the only watchable part of the show at times over the past 5+ years. But yeah I always saw NXT as a smark retention programme. I'd have done things differently to hhh but he gave Vince numerous good acts that were completely wasted.
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Post by Demented on Jan 5, 2022 17:27:23 GMT -5
They let Regal go?!?
*Sad War Game Noises*
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 5, 2022 17:29:08 GMT -5
i do find it ironic that right before AEW and then The Pandemic, NXT and HHH had this grand plan to branch out and have NXT's in all corners of the globe and were REALLY trying to cut into the Japan scene.
Boy that died a death lol, glad it did too, considering how much of an afterthought they treat NXT UK.
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Post by khali on Jan 5, 2022 17:29:33 GMT -5
In two plus years of cuts, Regal being cut is one of the most depressing ones for me. Even aside from his backstage role, he’s part of what I associate with the best times of NXT. They kind of got the authority figure role right with his character, the Jack Tunny role who appears when something is going down. And he always was good in the segments. Him being gone feels like another huge severing of the TV show I used to like.
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