MolotovMocktail
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 12, 2022 19:37:32 GMT -5
Sylvester Terkay as an MMA superstar. His matches were a few punches/elbow shots and a quick pin, I thought it was all a work until I saw his Wikipedia (and learned that he lost to Kurt Angle in the NCAA wrestling finals before winning the following year). They never let him showcase his am wrestling or MMA skills and cut him a few matches into his career when it looked like they were building him as the next monster heel.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 14, 2022 10:54:49 GMT -5
Diesel in the WWF, being a hand slapping, glove shilling face. It's even worse when you look at his WCW run where he was just the coolest dude in the building and always very over as a face. Maybe if Vince just let him be himself instead of trying to be Hogan again his title reign would have actually worked. |
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Post by Kyle Butler on Jan 14, 2022 11:12:02 GMT -5
Matt Morgan ever being allowed within the same room as a microphone He can’t help his stutter, damnit! 😉 |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 14, 2022 11:12:06 GMT -5
Diesel in the WWF, being a hand slapping, glove shilling face. It's even worse when you look at his WCW run where he was just the coolest dude in the building and always very over as a face. Maybe if Vince just let him be himself instead of trying to be Hogan again his title reign would have actually worked. Probably so, though it also helps, I think, that by the time he got to WCW for his post-WWF run, he had a lot more experience and confidence, and already knew what he wanted. That, plus hip-hop culture was an influence on him, and the timing was good for that. |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 14, 2022 12:38:53 GMT -5
Diesel in the WWF, being a hand slapping, glove shilling face. It's even worse when you look at his WCW run where he was just the coolest dude in the building and always very over as a face. Maybe if Vince just let him be himself instead of trying to be Hogan again his title reign would have actually worked. Thats just Kevin Nash in general. The guy is naturally entertaining as being himself. WWE always wanted him to be super serious when heel (See his last run) or cookie cutter face that just smiles and ext. In WCW and hell TNA he was given the freedom and was way more entertaining and interesting as a character. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jan 17, 2022 23:48:58 GMT -5
EC3 in WWE being booked as a mute This was the one I was coming to post. Saw the thread title and immediately thought of this. |
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Post by deezy on Jan 18, 2022 0:14:34 GMT -5
Ethan Page and Kiera Hogan in AEW right now.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jan 18, 2022 3:01:48 GMT -5
Mike Awesome in WCW. His first few months in the company Mike was treated as a no nonsense beat-the-shit-outta-you big man that utilised his strength and agility. Instead of sticking to and building on that they give him the lousy 70s guy and fat chick thriller gimmicks, which negates the style he brings to the ring.
Now I know he wasn't the best on the mic, but give him a manager like he had in ECW and let him kick ass.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 18, 2022 4:37:07 GMT -5
Mike Awesome in WCW. His first few months in the company Mike was treated as a no nonsense beat-the-shit-outta-you big man that utilised his strength and agility. Instead of sticking to and building on that they give him the lousy 70s guy and fat chick thriller gimmicks, which negates the style he brings to the ring. Now I know he wasn't the best on the mic, but give him a manager like he had in ECW and let him kick ass. The problem with Mike Awesome is he looked huge in ECW because everyone else was smaller or out of shape and he was kind of sloppy. He hit WCW at a time they had an entire class of guys from the Powerplant coming through who were as big, even more ripped, could pull off moves he couldn't and while they couldn't talk, neither could he. They weren't going to let him toss top guys around forever to stay over, he needed something more, or to be protected in some other way. Sadly Vince Russo was booking so that was that. |
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 18, 2022 7:03:38 GMT -5
Mike Awesome in WCW. His first few months in the company Mike was treated as a no nonsense beat-the-shit-outta-you big man that utilised his strength and agility. Instead of sticking to and building on that they give him the lousy 70s guy and fat chick thriller gimmicks, which negates the style he brings to the ring. Now I know he wasn't the best on the mic, but give him a manager like he had in ECW and let him kick ass. The problem with Mike Awesome is he looked huge in ECW because everyone else was smaller or out of shape and he was kind of sloppy. He hit WCW at a time they had an entire class of guys from the Powerplant coming through who were as big, even more ripped, could pull off moves he couldn't and while they couldn't talk, neither could he. They weren't going to let him toss top guys around forever to stay over, he needed something more, or to be protected in some other way. Sadly Vince Russo was booking so that was that. Awesome had 2 strengths. hardcore wrestling and being a big fish in a small pond. Once he went to the big pond where hardcore was watered down he was sunk. Of course his other option was to keep getting stiffed on pay. Tough break for the guy. |
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 22, 2022 9:43:26 GMT -5
For me, it's Ray Traylor in WWF and WCW. He was a strong heel and could play mean and evil but he could also captivate the fans as a good guy.
He was a huge face in the early 90s and once he turned in early 1995, he never played face again. And in typical WWF fashion when they teased a face turn on Raw, they pull the rug from under us. I think Bossman's career would be looked at even better had he stayed face entirely.
Edit: I think he was a face as Ray Traylor during his last days in WCW but they were pretty unmemorable.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 22, 2022 17:17:53 GMT -5
For me, it's Ray Traylor in WWF and WCW. He was a strong heel and could play mean and evil but he could also captivate the fans as a good guy. He was a huge face in the early 90s and once he turned in early 1995, he never played face again. And in typical WWF fashion when they teased a face turn on Raw, they pull the rug from under us. I think Bossman's career would be looked at even better had he stayed face entirely. Edit: I think he was a face as Ray Traylor during his last days in WCW but they were pretty unmemorable. He was a face when he using his real name. He was feuding with the NWO because he was bitter he was excommunicated from the group via FedEx when he was recovering from an injury. It really didn't lead to much except getting beat down by the NWO constantly and forming an alliance with the Steiners who ended up going to bat for him as his whole storyline was he was on an island to himself as the NWO kicked him out and no one in WCW wanted to help him due to him jumping ship previously. Traylor in WCW was the first guy that came to my mind as far someone not being booked to their strengths.. When they got him he was still pretty young as he was still only 30, had a lot of name value coming off his WWF run, as you mentioned was very versatile in the roles he could play, and could still go in the ring which was proven in his series with Vader which was very good. However they couldn't decide on a gimmick for him after WWF threatened legal action which prevented him from being The Boss which was pretty much the Big Boss Man but with a shortened name and a different colored uniform. Guardian Angel was a drop off gimmick wise and while the Vader series provided good matches it did more harm then good for Boss Man in that he lost all of the time to him. They ended up turning him heel and going back to Big Bubba, his first gimmick from years ago, and it seemed like maybe were finally going to start using him right as they gave him a surprise win over Sting on PPV. However after Sting got his win back on the next PPV they were pretty much done with him as he was almost like JTTS level just putting guys over and having lower card feuds with guys like Duggan and John Tenta, two other golden era WWF guys that they had no plans for. |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 22, 2022 18:03:20 GMT -5
Ricochet’s incredible wrestling acumen should have made him a main eventer in WWE.
Instead they decided “let’s book this handsome, incredibly gifted guy to lose to a bunch of jobbers we have no plans for”.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Jan 23, 2022 18:26:58 GMT -5
Matt Morgan
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Post by King Devitt on Jan 24, 2022 10:01:20 GMT -5
Ethan Page and Kiera Hogan in AEW right now. Having just watched GCW's WRLD PPV and seeing Joey Janela feeling like a legit main eventer, I feel like I could say this about a LOT of talent on AEW's far too bloated roster. |
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Post by Marvelous1LUFC on Jan 26, 2022 11:28:21 GMT -5
Marcus Cor Von being Elijah Burkes lackey in WWECW, Infact Marcus Cor Von in WWECW period. Although he was in the company like 6 months
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