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Post by eJm on Jan 24, 2022 11:39:51 GMT -5
I'm starting to get the feeling they only wanted those three so they could brag about what former WWE talent doing (look even our trash is better than the Indies!) then toss them to reinforce they mean nothing and the current roster is the best. It’s easy to be cynical about this stuff but then we also have to remember the NWA “invasion” wasn’t that long ago so it’s hard not to buy it, you know. |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 24, 2022 11:41:37 GMT -5
I'm starting to get the feeling they only wanted those three so they could brag about what former WWE talent doing (look even our trash is better than the Indies!) then toss them to reinforce they mean nothing and the current roster is the best. It’s easy to be cynical about this stuff but then we also have to remember the NWA “invasion” wasn’t that long ago so it’s hard not to buy it, you know. People often forget that the NWA's first match on RAW and this stunner were in the SAME SEGMENT:  |
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Post by Legion on Jan 24, 2022 11:43:13 GMT -5
I'm starting to get the feeling they only wanted those three so they could brag about what former WWE talent doing (look even our trash is better than the Indies!) then toss them to reinforce they mean nothing and the current roster is the best. Nah, I think the opposite. At least the first few times, and of these special deal appearences with people from other companies are going to be booked ok to well, just so WWE can give the false impression they can play nice so they can get back in the good books with some international leagues. They'll eventually revert to form, but I think we'll see a few 'success stories' first just to grease the wheel (of lies). |
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Post by nisidhe on Jan 24, 2022 11:43:25 GMT -5
It's interesting to note that WWE has been reaching out to those released exclusively, and has not extended the offer to anyone who hasn't previously been with WWE.
I imagine WWE might have a harder time than usual getting back a lot of those names, especially the higher-profile names that were cut purely as "budget cuts." I also imagine WWE will have a much harder time lowballing anyone currently on its roster when contract negotiations come up, now that Danielson, Moxley and Punk are near the top of the card again at AEW. Yes, Owens and Zayn have re-signed, but there are other jewels in WWE's crown that have to be coming loose.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 24, 2022 11:44:54 GMT -5
I'm starting to get the feeling they only wanted those three so they could brag about what former WWE talent doing (look even our trash is better than the Indies!) then toss them to reinforce they mean nothing and the current roster is the best. It’s easy to be cynical about this stuff but then we also have to remember the NWA “invasion” wasn’t that long ago so it’s hard not to buy it, you know. “Wasn’t that long ago” 24 years, nearly a quarter-century, ago this year. |
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Post by eJm on Jan 24, 2022 11:46:24 GMT -5
It’s easy to be cynical about this stuff but then we also have to remember the NWA “invasion” wasn’t that long ago so it’s hard not to buy it, you know. “Wasn’t that long ago” 24 years, nearly a quarter-century, ago this year. I mean more in the sense of “most people involved are still alive and can freely tell you how much of a mess it was”. Like, the dude taking the stunner in the GIF just wrestled in the Hammerstein Ballroom. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 24, 2022 11:46:40 GMT -5
I'm starting to get the feeling they only wanted those three so they could brag about what former WWE talent doing (look even our trash is better than the Indies!) then toss them to reinforce they mean nothing and the current roster is the best. Nah, I think the opposite. At least the first few times, and of these special deal appearences with people from other companies are going to be booked ok to well, just so WWE can give the false impression they can play nice so they can get back in the good books with some international leagues. They'll eventually revert to form, but I think we'll see a few 'success stories' first just to grease the wheel (of lies). This WOULD require Vince to show some restraint though... |
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 24, 2022 11:47:49 GMT -5
It’s easy to be cynical about this stuff but then we also have to remember the NWA “invasion” wasn’t that long ago so it’s hard not to buy it, you know. People often forget that the NWA's first match on RAW and this stunner were in the SAME SEGMENT: I’m sure the one fan complaining about the NWA being “buried” had their say… You just couldn’t hear it over the pops for quite literally the most over wrestler of all time hitting his peak. |
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 24, 2022 11:53:33 GMT -5
Them turning WWE down is only going to make WWE want them more down the line if they continue to progress.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 24, 2022 11:58:14 GMT -5
Dang, only if you had these two under contract at some point for this big annual match that you know fully well you have to fill out every single year…
Ah well
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Post by eJm on Jan 24, 2022 12:04:37 GMT -5
Dang, only if you had these two under contract at some point for this big annual match that you know fully well you have to fill out every single year… Ah well You would have thought you’d have thought this a bit more out if you were to do a match that needed your full roster at some point in the year rather than axing a bunch of them in unneeded cuts and also deciding not to use your televised developmental roster. But what do I know? |
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 24, 2022 12:18:25 GMT -5
I think this is what is a baffling? They’ve got so much of their roster that they’re having trouble filling out one of their big PPV’s of the year?
It’s why, and I’m not saying I agree with this myself, some think that they might be setting up for a possible sale. Because that seems to be the only answer that makes sense to many people?
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 24, 2022 12:27:01 GMT -5
Dang, only if you had these two under contract at some point for this big annual match that you know fully well you have to fill out every single year… Ah well You would have thought you’d have thought this a bit more out if you were to do a match that needed your full roster at some point in the year rather than axing a bunch of them in unneeded cuts and also deciding not to use your televised developmental roster. But what do I know? Nick Khan does not care about the Rumble. He cares about showing more profit than last quarter so the stock price goes up. If they have to fill out the Rumble with some green NXT women and the match sucks then who cares? Peacock already paid them. Bruce and Johnny meanwhile would most likely be fine with getting rid of the womens Rumble to place more importance on the mens. Having shitty rumbles would make it easier to convince Vince. |
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Post by eJm on Jan 24, 2022 12:44:43 GMT -5
You would have thought you’d have thought this a bit more out if you were to do a match that needed your full roster at some point in the year rather than axing a bunch of them in unneeded cuts and also deciding not to use your televised developmental roster. But what do I know? Nick Khan does not care about the Rumble. He cares about showing more profit than last quarter so the stock price goes up. If they have to fill out the Rumble with some green NXT women and the match sucks then who cares? Peacock already paid them. Bruce and Johnny meanwhile would most likely be fine with getting rid of the womens Rumble to place more importance on the mens. Having shitty rumbles would make it easier to convince Vince. I mean, needs to be said again, Vince has to approve these things. It isn’t Nick having full reign on anything and saying that is, frankly, the new “Pal, it wasn’t me, it was Johnny Ace/Paul Heyman/Jim Ross etc”. Vince just approves it because green is good in both ways. And again, I’m not saying having NXT women is a bad thing. Hell, I’m saying the rumor they won’t be is a terrible idea when you still have a show on cable TV to promote. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 24, 2022 12:44:46 GMT -5
'Look, I know we screwed you around on the main roster then fired you, leaving you scrambling and in danger of deportation like so many other international talent, I know we fired many of your friends, but we're low on numbers, soooo.. care to help?'
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Post by Legion on Jan 24, 2022 12:46:17 GMT -5
Nah, I think the opposite. At least the first few times, and of these special deal appearences with people from other companies are going to be booked ok to well, just so WWE can give the false impression they can play nice so they can get back in the good books with some international leagues. They'll eventually revert to form, but I think we'll see a few 'success stories' first just to grease the wheel (of lies). This WOULD require Vince to show some restraint though... That's why I said they'd revert to form. I can't imagine that Nick Khan liked allegedly being told no when he reached out to some promotions to do Forbidden Door stuff in Japan in Mexico, so I could see Vince showing restraint if his new money guru is behind him saying 'we do this, to get this, and make this, mwahahahaha' and other such evil machinations. |
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Jan 24, 2022 13:33:14 GMT -5
I'm starting to get the feeling they only wanted those three so they could brag about what former WWE talent doing (look even our trash is better than the Indies!) then toss them to reinforce they mean nothing and the current roster is the best. Mickie James said in an interview she asked them to mention her being Impact champion, and she believed they asked her because they wanted her, and not because she was a champion. But who knows what they thought. |
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Jan 24, 2022 13:40:35 GMT -5
I think this is what is a baffling? They’ve got so much of their roster that they’re having trouble filling out one of their big PPV’s of the year? It’s why, and I’m not saying I agree with this myself, some think that they might be setting up for a possible sale. Because that seems to be the only answer that makes sense to many people? They're not selling. It's because they realize it doesn't matter. If the Iiconics turn them down, there are 50 other ex-stars who are more than willing to take the payday. And whatever they put out, people are going to watch on Peacock. It doesn't matter who they put in it. They could cut another 50 people on the roster, they will get the same exact ratings and views. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 24, 2022 17:17:04 GMT -5
They want the social media buzz that comes from shock returns without actually signing anyone who would actually get people taliking to the kind of deal they'd want, or, you know, actuslly building up anyone internally.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Jan 24, 2022 17:42:28 GMT -5
This Rumble just reminds me of Rumbles during the "New Generation" where they had to bring in guys from the NWA, etc to make up for the lack of bodies in the Rumble.
Good for them on turning down WWE.
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