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Post by thechase on Jan 28, 2022 13:14:39 GMT -5
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 28, 2022 13:48:18 GMT -5
That's f***ing bullshit. YouTube is such a garbage platform.
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Post by eJm on Jan 28, 2022 15:08:01 GMT -5
That's f***ing bullshit. YouTube is such a garbage platform. The crazy thing is, this isn’t even YouTube’s fault. Well, it is for various reasons but it mainly isn’t. The key thing around this and the recent stuff with TotallyNotMark, is that because YouTube expects them to prove their claims and what would be considered not fair use and how much work that is, they instead are just going after the creators themselves and causing this stuff to happen. What I don’t understand is why YT isn’t approaching this case as they did with Toei because if Toei weren’t able to get away with it, Shopro shouldn’t either because if this is allowed, these companies can undermine the whole thing which allows ALL companies to undermine it and basically wreck the entire system. EDIT: Like, Suede could have just ignored it because NZ law is different from Japanese law but also the risk isn’t worth it either.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 28, 2022 15:24:54 GMT -5
That's f***ing bullshit. YouTube is such a garbage platform. The crazy thing is, this isn’t even YouTube’s fault. Well, it is for various reasons but it mainly isn’t. The key thing around this and the recent stuff with TotallyNotMark, is that because YouTube expects them to prove their claims and what would be considered not fair use and how much work that is, they instead are just going after the creators themselves and causing this stuff to happen. What I don’t understand is why YT isn’t approaching this case as they did with Toei because if Toei weren’t able to get away with it, Shopro shouldn’t either because if this is allowed, these companies can undermine the whole thing which allows ALL companies to undermine it and basically wreck the entire system. EDIT: Like, Suede could have just ignored it because NZ law is different from Japanese law but also the risk isn’t worth it either. I think what helped TNM is because the scope of the knowledge of the situation couldn’t be ignored by YouTube. Pewdiepie, much as I hate the guy, proved to be really useful here because he did a reaction video to TNM’s video announcing Toei going after him. Once it got there, there was no putting the lid back on it or shuffling it aside. Sadly YouTube very much still operates on the system of not doing the right thing unless a big enough stink is made about it.
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Post by eJm on Jan 28, 2022 15:25:52 GMT -5
Sadly YouTube very much still operates on the system of not doing the right thing unless a big enough stink is made about it. Think that’s pretty much it, unfortunately.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 28, 2022 15:29:45 GMT -5
The crazy thing is, this isn’t even YouTube’s fault. Well, it is for various reasons but it mainly isn’t. The key thing around this and the recent stuff with TotallyNotMark, is that because YouTube expects them to prove their claims and what would be considered not fair use and how much work that is, they instead are just going after the creators themselves and causing this stuff to happen. What I don’t understand is why YT isn’t approaching this case as they did with Toei because if Toei weren’t able to get away with it, Shopro shouldn’t either because if this is allowed, these companies can undermine the whole thing which allows ALL companies to undermine it and basically wreck the entire system. EDIT: Like, Suede could have just ignored it because NZ law is different from Japanese law but also the risk isn’t worth it either. I think what helped TNM is because the scope of the knowledge of the situation couldn’t be ignored by YouTube. Pewdiepie, much as I hate the guy, proved to be really useful here because he did a reaction video to TNM’s video announcing Toei going after him. Once it got there, there was no putting the lid back on it or shuffling it aside. Sadly YouTube very much still operates on the system of not doing the right thing unless a big enough stink is made about it. Either you somehow manage to make enough ruckus about it in the court of public opinion, or you actually get legal representation. Youtube expects most of its creators aren't well off enough to hire lawyers, and tend to back down pretty quickly if you actually challenge them in court. They did that with James Stephanie Sterling when that awful game creator copyright struck their videos down. Sterling hired an actual lawyer and Youtube folded like a bad poker hand.
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