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Post by clifford on Jan 29, 2022 9:32:04 GMT -5
Allow me to indulge in some fantasy booking.
I think there's some nice seeds being sown in AEW at the moment.
On one hand you've got Serena Deeb, wily veteran who has discovered a viscious streak in herself.
On the other you have rookie sensation Jade Cargill, first ever TBS champion and undefeated. Very much buying into her own hype, but also getting more and more favourable crowd reactions. Making short work of her title challengers.
What if things continue this way for another month or so, culminating in a Jade vs Deeb TBS title match, where the viscious Deeb systematically picks apart a wildly taken by surprise and thrown off guard Jade, resulting in Deeb as champ and a full face turn for That Bitch.
Jade starts on a redemption arc, faced with adversity for the first time in her career she must overcome the devastating loss of her title while discovering true humilty along the way.
And Deeb embarks on a weekly open challenge series with the TBS title, taking on all comers inside and outside of AEW, showcasing her technical prowess and ability to flawlessly mesh her in ring style to that of her opponent.
Yeah, that'd be pretty cool.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 29, 2022 10:10:55 GMT -5
Wouldn’t be against this. They’re bringing Jade along at a decent pace and she’ll only get better working longer matches with a Deeb who can challenge her and get her accustomed to the grind.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 29, 2022 10:34:33 GMT -5
I don't like it.
It has to be a babyface that takes down Cargill. Giving the rub to a heel would make no sense, the rub has to be used to build the next big babyface star. Tay Conti would be a perfect choice, she's insanely popular and could easily be the next Trish Stratus if TK is invested in going all the way with her. They need to start booking their babyfaces better in general because that side of things has been handled incredibly poorly. We need babyfaces to get behind and know there's going to be an end result and payoff which there's hasn't been for anyone
I like the redemption arc with Jade though, to me the redemption arc should've already started after she LOST to Ruby Soho, now with this monster push before she's even close to ready and with let's be real far more deserving winners it's now going to be harder for a lot of people to get behind Jade after she loses the title, not an impossible task but much harder than it would've been had she lost
Serena Deeb should win the Owen Cup and then potentially be the one to beat Rosa for the title at All-out
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Jan 29, 2022 11:00:36 GMT -5
Not signed. Jade Cargill should lose to a face you're trying to make, if at all. Deed is a made heel, and should be a challenger for whatever face takes it off of Baker. If thats Rosa, Thunder Rosa versus Serena Deeb is a PPV level match for the May PPV.
I would keep it on Jade Cargill for at least another 6 months.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 29, 2022 11:46:25 GMT -5
The last thing the women’s division needs right now is YET ANOTHER long title reign.
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jan 29, 2022 11:51:00 GMT -5
Have a face beat Jade, give the face about three solid defenses over a couple months, then Deeb destroys her.
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Post by clifford on Jan 29, 2022 12:00:26 GMT -5
I don't like it. It has to be a babyface that takes down Cargill. Giving the rub to a heel would make no sense, the rub has to be used to build the next big babyface star. Tay Conti would be a perfect choice, she's insanely popular and could easily be the next Trish Stratus if TK is invested in going all the way with her. They need to start booking their babyfaces better in general because that side of things has been handled incredibly poorly. We need babyfaces to get behind and know there's going to be an end result and payoff which there's hasn't been for anyone I like the redemption arc with Jade though, to me the redemption arc should've already started after she LOST to Ruby Soho, now with this monster push before she's even close to ready and with let's be real far more deserving winners it's now going to be harder for a lot of people to get behind Jade after she loses the title, not an impossible task but much harder than it would've been had she lost Serena Deeb should win the Owen Cup and then potentially be the one to beat Rosa for the title at All-out I agree. It should have been Ruby beating Jade in the finals to kick off Jade's self discovery arc. And that Serena then beating Ruby for it makes more sense. Just trying to make work with the scenario we have now. A face getting the rub as Jade's first loss only makes sense if Jade is 100% heel, and I dunno, it seems both Jade and AEW are leaning into her crowd reactions and making her more a crowd favourite. You don't want your big babyface win being met with boos cause the crowd is into Jade more. Tay is one of the only ones who could make it work I think, I agree with you on that.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 29, 2022 12:10:57 GMT -5
I'm going to be honest: Jade vs Anna Jay was probably a more interesting match than Deeb or Ruby would have had with Anna.
Obviously, both are better wrestlers than Jade. I'm not arguing otherwise. I do think that more goes into being a good choice for a champion than just who is the most skilled. The network specifically wanted her, supposedly, and given that the network likely pushed for the title's creation to begin with, like TNT did for the TNT title, I don't picture any plausible scenario where Khan just blows them off and gives Ruby the title. It just was never going to happen.
I do think Deeb would be a good champion, but I think a face beating Jade makes more sense. Tay Conti wouldn't be a bad transitional champion idea. If she was further along in her development, Red Velvet finally getting one over on Jade wouldn't be bad, either, but even if the story's there, I don't think she's ready for that just yet.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 29, 2022 12:45:09 GMT -5
I feel like a bigger problem here is simply AEW lack of attention for the women for so long, and SO MUCH of the attention they do get is focused around Britt and Jade.
There’s any number of women who SHOULD feel like a threat to Jade easily. But they haven’t been given the attention they should be given.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 29, 2022 12:57:37 GMT -5
I should point out that this should be something further down the road. There’s no need for Jade to lose it anytime soon for a few more months IMO, but if Deeb is gonna keep being this impressive then they can be kept apart for a while and have a decent program set up for the two.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 29, 2022 17:03:05 GMT -5
I don't like it. It has to be a babyface that takes down Cargill. Giving the rub to a heel would make no sense, the rub has to be used to build the next big babyface star. Tay Conti would be a perfect choice, she's insanely popular and could easily be the next Trish Stratus if TK is invested in going all the way with her. They need to start booking their babyfaces better in general because that side of things has been handled incredibly poorly. We need babyfaces to get behind and know there's going to be an end result and payoff which there's hasn't been for anyone I like the redemption arc with Jade though, to me the redemption arc should've already started after she LOST to Ruby Soho, now with this monster push before she's even close to ready and with let's be real far more deserving winners it's now going to be harder for a lot of people to get behind Jade after she loses the title, not an impossible task but much harder than it would've been had she lost Serena Deeb should win the Owen Cup and then potentially be the one to beat Rosa for the title at All-out I agree. It should have been Ruby beating Jade in the finals to kick off Jade's self discovery arc. And that Serena then beating Ruby for it makes more sense. Just trying to make work with the scenario we have now. A face getting the rub as Jade's first loss only makes sense if Jade is 100% heel, and I dunno, it seems both Jade and AEW are leaning into her crowd reactions and making her more a crowd favourite. You don't want your big babyface win being met with boos cause the crowd is into Jade more. Tay is one of the only ones who could make it work I think, I agree with you on that. I doubt they'll completely face turn her. She might be a defacto face if she faces someone like Brandi and lean more into a tweener role, but that'll likely be how far it goes until she drops the title then they might push her more into a face. As for the babyface win being met with boos, that won't be a problem. The crowd last week was ready to give Anna Jay a massive pop when she hit jade with the Queenslayer, they were completely on her side. There's no way a crowd are going to boo for example a Tay Conti or Kris Statlander win over Jade. They'd get a big reaction.
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jan 29, 2022 17:12:09 GMT -5
Okay, so to go along with my last post, since Jade and Red Velvet have so much history, let Velvet get the surprise win over her as the underdog babyface. Then Deeb can destroy Velvet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 17:54:25 GMT -5
I'd love for Deeb to be any kind of champion, she's amazing.
Mostly though I'm relieved someone hadn't started an actual petition...
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Post by Dub H on Jan 29, 2022 20:31:05 GMT -5
Okay, so to go along with my last post, since Jade and Red Velvet have so much history, let Velvet get the surprise win over her as the underdog babyface. Then Deeb can destroy Velvet. Not every title reign needa the poetic ending. Velvet honestly in that level, she should beat Jade one day but not for the title
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 30, 2022 3:19:26 GMT -5
*a* TBS champion certainly, but it absolutely must be a face who dethrones Jade and Serena's not that face
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Post by Lupin the Third on Feb 2, 2022 18:32:43 GMT -5
I'd rather do this.
Thunder Rosa beats Baker for the title, whenever that may be.
Deeb makes Rosa tap, winning the World title.
She goes on a Rampage, making victims tap, until Shida comes back, and they have an all out war, with Shida becoming the first two-time Women's Champion.
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Post by King Devitt on Feb 2, 2022 22:41:21 GMT -5
As long as it gets a title on Deeb, who I think could do more good with a run more than anyone right now (and should've been the first TBS Champion) I'll sign the shit out of it.
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 2, 2022 22:54:09 GMT -5
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Post by holyshida on Feb 2, 2022 22:58:08 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me, let's be real these are the only 2 Women that TK really gives a shit about. He's sacrificed the push of 3 potential babyface stars because he doesn't want these 2 to be overshadowed in any way
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 2, 2022 23:07:00 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me, let's be real these are the only 2 Women that TK really gives a shit about. He's sacrificed the push of 3 potential babyface stars because he doesn't want these 2 to be overshadowed in any way ok? we get it, you are angry about the woman's division
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