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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 4, 2022 19:29:16 GMT -5
Idk if Tony is gonna announce Keith tonight, but it sounds like he has a big week planned with how big the Atlantic City show is, and he might announce a new signing is in action ahead of time tonight, even if it isn't Keith, and potentially debut Keith at the show as a second surprise.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 5, 2022 12:09:16 GMT -5
As expected so I'm not surprised. I just hope he's used greatly. As stated, they need more black main eventers. I said in that first thread that it'll take an additional 2-3 years before they do something because AEW just been slow with pushing this so given Keith Lee might join, he'll probably be in the midcard and then be in the main event sometime in 2023 like I initially predicted. They're just slow with this thing and they've just got a bad pattern of not really putting the time and work in changing the perception of it. Lee will be him and that's great especially with all of his ideas he's got. Sign Mia, Athena and you've got 3 great additions. I firmly expect him to be in the midcard and not get close to the World title until 2024 He should be pushed at least equal to Adam Cole and I think they been undervaluing him greatly as well. But yeah, you got some black talent coming in, let's see what you do after TK shitted on himself with the Big Swole comments
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 5, 2022 12:52:25 GMT -5
As expected so I'm not surprised. I just hope he's used greatly. As stated, they need more black main eventers. I said in that first thread that it'll take an additional 2-3 years before they do something because AEW just been slow with pushing this so given Keith Lee might join, he'll probably be in the midcard and then be in the main event sometime in 2023 like I initially predicted. They're just slow with this thing and they've just got a bad pattern of not really putting the time and work in changing the perception of it. Lee will be him and that's great especially with all of his ideas he's got. Sign Mia, Athena and you've got 3 great additions. I firmly expect him to be in the midcard and not get close to the World title until 2024 He should be pushed at least equal to Adam Cole and I think they been undervaluing him greatly as well. But yeah, you got some black talent coming in, let's see what you do after TK shitted on himself with the Big Swole comments Cole literally just called his shot for the world title, I don't think he's being undervalued much at all I don't see Keith being sat in the midcard for two years. I could see him winning the TNT Title almost out the gate, especially if he ends up in the Revolution Ladder Match. In any case, he's totally an upper carder I would think, dude's just a beast. As long as he's healthy and doesn't need to be eased back in anyway
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Post by THE FVNKER on Feb 5, 2022 13:06:57 GMT -5
So, I realize it's not the guy in question.. but rather than bumping a dead thread, I guess it's still related in some sense being that it's talk of a potential signing, but has there been any news at all on Windham Rotundas possible arrival in AEW? Seems like after the news of his release died down so did the speculation of him showing up.
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Post by CeilingFan on Feb 5, 2022 13:46:41 GMT -5
So, I realize it's not the guy in question.. but rather than bumping a dead thread, I guess it's still related in some sense being that it's talk of a potential signing, but has there been any news at all on Windham Rotundas possible arrival in AEW? Seems like after the news of his release died down so did the speculation of him showing up. I hope not. AEW doesn't need him.
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Post by robferatu on Feb 5, 2022 13:46:56 GMT -5
I wouldn't be entirely opposed with him debuting as an open challenge opponent for Guevera, and winning the TNT Championship in his first match.
However, with the Spanish God just recently winning the championship back and the "Face of the Revolution" match four weeks away... I'd almost prefer to hold off Lee's debut until "Revolution", and have Miro in the ladder match as well and let that spin into a Miro vs. Lee feud post "Revolution" and afterward have him go after either the World or TNT Championship.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2022 14:11:42 GMT -5
As expected so I'm not surprised. I just hope he's used greatly. As stated, they need more black main eventers. I said in that first thread that it'll take an additional 2-3 years before they do something because AEW just been slow with pushing this so given Keith Lee might join, he'll probably be in the midcard and then be in the main event sometime in 2023 like I initially predicted. They're just slow with this thing and they've just got a bad pattern of not really putting the time and work in changing the perception of it. Lee will be him and that's great especially with all of his ideas he's got. Sign Mia, Athena and you've got 3 great additions. I firmly expect him to be in the midcard and not get close to the World title until 2024 He should be pushed at least equal to Adam Cole and I think they been undervaluing him greatly as well. But yeah, you got some black talent coming in, let's see what you do after TK shitted on himself with the Big Swole comments Yeah I can see that. Where Cole is will probably be where he's at, like you said, and given I also think Cole's being heavily undervalued we'll be seeing em in similar roles for probably at least a year, at least. Cole felt like the man in NXT. In AEW he's sorta like, what's the word, like he felt like he was Sub-Zero or Scorpion in NXT while in AEW I'm looking at him like he's Baraka. Baraka's dope, he just ain't that dude.
I just don't have any faith in AEW and their whole diversity thing and that stands today. Signing black wrestlers doesn't mean shit to me when those same wrestlers are in the same midcard positions I said they'd be in. My predictions regarding how they're handling things just seem to be coming to light especially after those Swole comments. It's been predictable.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 5, 2022 14:21:08 GMT -5
I firmly expect him to be in the midcard and not get close to the World title until 2024 He should be pushed at least equal to Adam Cole and I think they been undervaluing him greatly as well. But yeah, you got some black talent coming in, let's see what you do after TK shitted on himself with the Big Swole comments Yeah I can see that. Where Cole is will probably be where he's at, like you said, and given I also think Cole's being heavily undervalued we'll be seeing em in similar roles for probably at least a year, at least. Cole felt like the man in NXT. In AEW he's sorta like, what's the word, like he felt like he was Sub-Zero or Scorpion in NXT while in AEW I'm looking at him like he's Baraka. Baraka's dope, he just ain't that dude.
I just don't have any faith in AEW and their whole diversity thing and that stands today. Signing black wrestlers doesn't mean shit to me when those same wrestlers are in the same midcard positions I said they'd be in. My predictions regarding how they're handling things just seem to be coming to light especially after those Swole comments. It's been predictable.
Cole's also just in a promotion with a ton of huge names, so of course he felt more like the man in NXT in comparison. In AEW you usually have to come in and work your way through the card and get higher up. Cole's been doing just that, and is undefeated in official matches. He's probably the world title contender for Revolution, so I don't see him as undervalued right now, he's been a workhorse since getting there and is probably main eventing the next PPV. Anyway as far as Keith goes, I don't know how long it'll take, but I don't see Keith in the midcard for very long, he's just not the talent to be there very long. If they wanna make sure he's good and over his shit, easing him in might be right, but I think if Keith Lee comes in, he's holding a belt by years end. Especially if he goes after Guevara, cause that dude's gonna get knocked into space lmfao
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Post by Cyno on Feb 5, 2022 14:21:22 GMT -5
I don't think Cole is undervalued at all. It's just not AEW's way to debut a guy and immediately push him to the World Title scene. Only exception to that has been Bryan Danielson and he's Bryan f***ing Danielson. Cole was the man in NXT, but in NXT he could be a big fish in a small pond. Even now, though, he's firmly an upper-carder who can be inserted into the main event and they planted the seeds for him to chase the AEW World Championship.
Going back to the fighting game comparisons, I'd say he's the Johnny Cage of AEW right now. Not THE main guy like Liu Kang, but still pretty important.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 5, 2022 16:14:56 GMT -5
Oh BTW congrats to Keith Lee and Mia Yim. They just had their wedding.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 5, 2022 16:19:16 GMT -5
In AEW, it's not just being in the title picture that means you're being pushed. By that definition, MJF hasn't been pushed (apart from for around a month) and he's probably benefitted from the longest and most sustained push in the entire company. As long as someone comes in, gets featured matches, good storylines, and is allowed to shine, then they're being pushed. I think Cole has had all of those and would expect Lee to get the same, even if he isn't challenging for the title within the first six months.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 5, 2022 16:27:27 GMT -5
Just needs to change a few things.
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Post by lildude8218 on Feb 5, 2022 16:31:41 GMT -5
Don Jardine died in 2006, Dave, you f***in mark.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 5, 2022 16:37:59 GMT -5
I don't think Cole is undervalued at all. It's just not AEW's way to debut a guy and immediately push him to the World Title scene. Only exception to that has been Bryan Danielson and he's Bryan f***ing Danielson. Cole was the man in NXT, but in NXT he could be a big fish in a small pond. Even now, though, he's firmly an upper-carder who can be inserted into the main event and they planted the seeds for him to chase the AEW World Championship.
Going back to the fighting game comparisons, I'd say he's the Johnny Cage of AEW right now. Not THE main guy like Liu Kang, but still pretty important.
I think we see Cole rise in the coming weeks, and the added Elite drama will figure into it, too.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 5, 2022 16:42:22 GMT -5
Oh BTW congrats to Keith Lee and Mia Yim. They just had their wedding. Then maybe it won't be Keith Lee. Maybe he and Mia would still be on their honeymoon this Wednesday.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Feb 5, 2022 16:44:17 GMT -5
How to debut Keith Lee🤔
Danhausen has his first match, and it's against Adam Cole. The match is fun, but gets heated. Cole goes to pull something from under the ring. He grabs a chair, but it won't budge... He gets reDRagon who were stationed at ringside in support to help him. The three pull and out pops Keith Lee. He curses them all, and then leaves.
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Post by ghost on Feb 5, 2022 16:50:02 GMT -5
I don't agree that Cole is being undervalued. AEW is very slow with builds and don't rush guys to the top of the card (obviously guys like Danielson are exceptions since he is a legend). Cole has been all over the important shows and a constant presence in the company since he came in. The most logical feud for him would be against Omega but that's not happening for a while. Just because he wasn't thrust into the title picture upon arrival doesn't mean he's not be used properly. Even Punk has been lounging in the mid card since he came in and he's the biggest star in the company.
As far as Keith Lee, I think he fills the same type of spot on the card as Miro, a believable mid card to upper mid card guy. My guess is that is how he'll be pushed.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Feb 5, 2022 17:12:01 GMT -5
It depends really. If Keith Lee can work like Keith Lee he's going to be heinously over and he will be world champ. If he has to slow down due to covid like he as BEARCAT LEE and is working a more traditional hoss style he'll have a similar spot to Lance Archer, at least until he figures out how to make that style work.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Feb 5, 2022 17:17:52 GMT -5
I don't agree that Cole is being undervalued. AEW is very slow with builds and don't rush guys to the top of the card (obviously guys like Danielson are exceptions since he is a legend). Cole has been all over the important shows and a constant presence in the company since he came in. The most logical feud for him would be against Omega but that's not happening for a while. Just because he wasn't thrust into the title picture upon arrival doesn't mean he's not be used properly. Even Punk has been lounging in the mid card since he came in and he's the biggest star in the company. As far as Keith Lee, I think he fills the same type of spot on the card as Miro, a believable mid card to upper mid card guy. My guess is that is how he'll be pushed. If Cole had come in and gone straight to main events people would complain that homegrown guys like Hangman are being undervalued. They can't really win here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2022 17:48:32 GMT -5
Just needs to change a few things. Just a matter of if "he" will be enough in their eyes. To people's comments about AEW and their speed, AEW being slow to build talent was one of the MAIN issues we had with that main event diversity thread. I don't care if that is AEW's style because I just don't like it for everybody. It's a bad excuse because they don't gotta be slow all the time and they can easily change stuff and their method of doing things if need be as we've seen in the past. They've got a problem having everybody stick to that method even if it's in regards to moving people up the card or pushing diversity. At the end of the day they care more about that method than diversity or how certain talent are. If they cared more we wouldn't be seeing things like, they obviously cared more when it comes to Bryan so we will see if it means more to Keith. I doubt it because we've seen Tony doesn't care enough about the representation as we've been stating these past few years. Actually them being slow is the whole reason we had that thread before. That slow booking style isn't always great. Sometimes you gotta flip the script otherwise its a waste of potential and its just far more boring.
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