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Post by papagiorgio on Feb 12, 2022 5:51:55 GMT -5
This story reads like a Meltzer newz story. It is all over the place. It says a little of everything to cover all the bases.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 12, 2022 6:59:30 GMT -5
I have no idea what to make of this. Dude’s been put back with his regular tag team partner, but they don’t want it to be a permanent thing because they still seemingly want him back in singles so they’re not actually being called by their long-time tag team name? Even though the back end of his singles run gave off the impression that they’d prefer if he wasn’t in singles?
If I, average long-term fan, can’t make heads or tails of this, how is anyone working there supposed to?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 7:37:13 GMT -5
The whole idea that all top faces should be unlikable loners is just f***ing dumb. Vince has been trying to recreate Hulkamania for decades even though its never worked again. The definition of insanity...
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Post by kevin on Feb 12, 2022 9:19:23 GMT -5
I have no idea what to make of this. Dude’s been put back with his regular tag team partner, but they don’t want it to be a permanent thing because they still seemingly want him back in singles so they’re not actually being called by their long-time tag team name? Even though the back end of his singles run gave off the impression that they’d prefer if he wasn’t in singles? If I, average long-term fan, can’t make heads or tails of this, how is anyone working there supposed to? Maybe it is for a break up angle? You could have Kofi turn on Big E for I don't know bring Evan Bourne back and have him say he would rather be in Air Boom instead. Then have Big E win one of the world titles and go into Summer Slam as champion with Kofi as his challenger. Kofi will win with help from Evan then Woods will cash in MITB and all three New Day members will be champions on the same day.
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Feb 12, 2022 9:25:08 GMT -5
Vince always misremembers the quote "If it aint broke, dont fix it" as "If it aint broken, break it." it's the only real explanation for his meddling with things for so often.
he's been able to make great things into amazing things, but there has been a lot more times where he's made great or amazing things ordinary or worse.
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Post by Nosnorb on Feb 12, 2022 9:32:20 GMT -5
I have no idea what to make of this. Dude’s been put back with his regular tag team partner, but they don’t want it to be a permanent thing because they still seemingly want him back in singles so they’re not actually being called by their long-time tag team name? Even though the back end of his singles run gave off the impression that they’d prefer if he wasn’t in singles? If I, average long-term fan, can’t make heads or tails of this, how is anyone working there supposed to? Maybe it is for a break up angle? You could have Kofi turn on Big E for I don't know bring Evan Bourne back and have him say he would rather be in Air Boom instead. Then have Big E win one of the world titles and go into Summer Slam as champion with Kofi as his challenger. Kofi will win with help from Evan then Woods will cash in MITB and all three New Day members will be champions on the same day. I'm pretty sure that The New Day, all of it's members, are on record stating that they have asked never to be broken up.
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Post by mc74 on Feb 12, 2022 12:06:12 GMT -5
So, he wants the New Day back together, but doesn't want them to be back together. Cool beans.
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Post by sunnytaker on Feb 12, 2022 13:18:37 GMT -5
The whole idea that all top faces should be unlikable loners is just f***ing dumb. yeah i always liked how 99% of the time any random heel pairings for tag/trios matches were looked at by commentary as "ok no issues here" but a pair of faces who once accidently backed up into each other backstage "can these two people possibly get along?" it was like the heels were one big happy family while the faces were untrusting loners waiting for an inevitable betrayal (unless it was sting- he trusted everyone)
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 12, 2022 14:34:36 GMT -5
The whole idea that all top faces should be unlikable loners is just f***ing dumb. Vince has been trying to recreate Hulkamania for decades even though its never worked again. The definition of insanity... But he's not? As I said Hulk had tons of friends... I mean two of his big Mania Angles were his friends turning on him...
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Post by eJm on Feb 12, 2022 14:36:52 GMT -5
Vince has been trying to recreate Hulkamania for decades even though its never worked again. The definition of insanity... But he's not? As I said Hulk had tons of friends... I mean two of his big Mania Angles were his friends turning on him... And, as someone slightly following Bryan and Vinny's review of WrestleMania 9, the tag match between him and Beefcake vs. Money Inc was rooted in Hulk wanting to help his friend after being assaulted by Dibiase and IRS.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 12, 2022 14:46:41 GMT -5
I think that story is just badly written. It makes it sound like Vince wants them broken up and together at the same time, when it's really something he keeps flip-flopping over.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 12, 2022 15:13:45 GMT -5
The whole idea that all top faces should be unlikable loners is just f***ing dumb. Vince has been trying to recreate Hulkamania for decades even though its never worked again. The definition of insanity... Nah, Hogan had plenty of friends over the years, including Orndorff, Andre, Savage, and Beefcake. This feels more like an attempt to capture the Stone Cold lightning in a bottle, but Austin generally made up for his friend deficiencies by being a step ahead of Vince and his baddies of the month more times than not. Whereas all the loner babyfaces generally look like idiots week in and week out.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Feb 12, 2022 15:32:50 GMT -5
I like how people are saying "damn this story is all over the place" to discredit it
But for me its entirely realistic because that's just what Vince's mind is like.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 12, 2022 17:15:01 GMT -5
Vince has been trying to recreate Hulkamania for decades even though its never worked again. The definition of insanity... Nah, Hogan had plenty of friends over the years, including Orndorff, Andre, Savage, and Beefcake. This feels more like an attempt to capture the Stone Cold lightning in a bottle, but Austin generally made up for his friend deficiencies by being a step ahead of Vince and his baddies of the month more times than not. Whereas all the loner babyfaces generally look like idiots week in and week out. and as I said earlier too... even Loner Badass Stone Cold was still buddies with JR.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Feb 13, 2022 9:08:27 GMT -5
But he's not? As I said Hulk had tons of friends... I mean two of his big Mania Angles were his friends turning on him... And, as someone slightly following Bryan and Vinny's review of WrestleMania 9, the tag match between him and Beefcake vs. Money Inc was rooted in Hulk wanting to help his friend after being assaulted by Dibiase and IRS. In the main event of Survivor Series 1990, Hogan teamed with Warrior and “MY MAIN MAN, TITO SANTANA!”. He always seemed like a great captain of Survivor Series teams; he made you believe he really wanted Koko B. Ware by his side that night.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 13, 2022 10:18:05 GMT -5
He wants to save the New Day reunion to be a big moment that will pop a rating and sell merch, but he also wants them to be a unit and keep selling the merch already out there.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Feb 13, 2022 10:28:28 GMT -5
Which one of these three men dropped a deuce on Vince McMahon’s private jet and/or sneezed in front of him? That’s what I wanna know…
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Post by Nosnorb on Feb 13, 2022 10:43:16 GMT -5
He wants to save the New Day reunion to be a big moment that will pop a rating and sell merch, but he also wants them to be a unit and keep selling the merch already out there. A New Day reunion won't be a big moment due to inevitably coming off the back of a title run that either ended badly or was just deeply mediocre and never made the dude holding the title feel special, and the reunion means yet more matches with the Usos.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 13, 2022 12:43:04 GMT -5
Vince is an idiot these days when it comes to creative. He does not know what he wants and has zero new ideas seemingly.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Feb 13, 2022 19:16:02 GMT -5
Vince has been trying to recreate Hulkamania for decades even though its never worked again. The definition of insanity... Nah, Hogan had plenty of friends over the years, including Orndorff, Andre, Savage, and Beefcake. This feels more like an attempt to capture the Stone Cold lightning in a bottle, but Austin generally made up for his friend deficiencies by being a step ahead of Vince and his baddies of the month more times than not. Whereas all the loner babyfaces generally look like idiots week in and week out. Yeah. He tried to recreate Hulkamania with The Ultimate Warrior, Lex Luger, and Diesel; but that didn't work. Then, Stone Cold came along. So, Vince has been trying to make another Austin. I'm surprised that they haven't been trying to make another John Cena.
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