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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 15, 2022 19:22:10 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero wins the WWE championship from Brock Lesnar in what would be one of the biggest underdog victories in pro wrestling history, as well as the last time Lesnar would lose a pro wrestling championship match for another 14 and a half years when Roman beat him at Summerslam 18
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Post by fw91 on Feb 15, 2022 19:44:14 GMT -5
i was actually really surprised when this happened.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 15, 2022 19:44:42 GMT -5
I still remember this finish vividly. Was such a cool moment.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Feb 15, 2022 19:45:59 GMT -5
What's crazy about this is I remember it kinda coming out of nowhere. Like Eddie wasn't being obviously built for a main event spot in the previous 6-12 months. I'm pretty sure he and Chavo were losing clean to the Bashams in late 2003. He was basically squashed by Big Show to lose the US title. On paper this should have been a filler pre-Wrestlemania feud for Brock but Eddie's promos in the weeks leading to the match were so good that it became clear he had to win and all of a sudden he was a main eventer.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 15, 2022 19:47:26 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero wins the WWE championship from Brock Lesnar in what would be one of the biggest underdog victories in pro wrestling history, as well as the last time Lesnar would lose a pro wrestling championship match for another 14 and a half years when Roman beat him at Summerslam 18 I assume you mean was pinned cause...  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2022 22:50:38 GMT -5
I feel like if you ask the current roster who their biggest influences are, Eddie's name would be brought up by most. Just seems like he and HBK have inspired so many of the younger wrestlers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 3:00:31 GMT -5
One of the happiest moments in wrestling for sure!  |
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Post by msc on Feb 16, 2022 6:45:47 GMT -5
I wasn't really keep in touch with wrestling at this time, but I logged into Rajah Forums that day (this was when it was still one of the bigger wrestling communities online) and the predictions thread for the PPV was about 70% people picking Eddie Guerrero over Brock - sensible regulars I usually trusted with their nous - and my reaction, tbh, was "What the f*** have I missed going on?" I was legit stunned. Even more so when I heard he won it. Happy, but shocked.
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Post by rocket on Feb 16, 2022 10:32:12 GMT -5
The following month we had the infamous first Brock vs. Goldberg match. I strongly believe had a match like Brock vs. Eddie been booked today Brock would've won.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 10:38:05 GMT -5
At the time, I was shocked.
I was only around 9 so I didn't see Eddie Guerrero as this "amazing wrestler who was held down" like probably most of the IWC did.
I probably didn't appreciate the moment enough cause my entire thoughts at the time were "... Why is a jobber like Eddie Guerrero who was JUST teaming with Tajiri now WWE Champion?"... And then Bradshaw won the title about 3 months later and that was an even bigger WTF moment.
These guys weren't serious contenders at the time so I was thinking "Man, this company is going downhill"
Eddie won me over in 2005 with his heel work. I wanted him to beat Batista for the title. And JBL solidified himself as one of the best WWE Champions. So it was the right call.
Looking back, I loved Ruthless Aggression era Smackdown. As I got older, I learned to appreciate how amazing guys like Eddie and Benoit were in the ring.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 10:39:44 GMT -5
The following month we had the infamous first Brock vs. Goldberg match. I strongly believe had a match like Brock vs. Eddie been booked today Brock would've won. A match like that WAS booked... Except it was Roman vs Cesaro. |
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Feb 16, 2022 11:35:37 GMT -5
Still one of the all time feel good Title wins.
Only Daniel Bryan and Kofi Kingston's mania Title wins come close imho.
I still remember being furious when he lost it to of all people, Bradshaw.. But it is what it is now.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 16, 2022 17:00:19 GMT -5
What's crazy about this is I remember it kinda coming out of nowhere. Like Eddie wasn't being obviously built for a main event spot in the previous 6-12 months. I'm pretty sure he and Chavo were losing clean to the Bashams in late 2003. He was basically squashed by Big Show to lose the US title. On paper this should have been a filler pre-Wrestlemania feud for Brock but Eddie's promos in the weeks leading to the match were so good that it became clear he had to win and all of a sudden he was a main eventer. Yeah, the way we got to Eddie vs. Brock in the first place was bizarre, with Eddie going from being a really over midcarder to winning the Smackdown Royal Rumble and facing Brock for the title. But the big thing that turned Eddie's match from a filler feud to a match where he was the odds-on favorite was that they were clearly building Goldberg vs. Lesnar in a Raw vs. Smackdown match. And since Brock cost Goldberg a chance at the World Heavyweight title by interfering in the Royal Rumble, it only made sense that Goldberg would cost Lesnar the match against Eddie. However, this is one of those cases where WWE's revisionist history is actually better than the reality, as they will show all sorts of clips of Eddie DDTing Lesnar's head onto the title belt and Frogsplashing his way to main event stardom, but not so much with Goldberg spearing Lesnar into the mat beforehand. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 17, 2022 2:19:49 GMT -5
The following month we had the infamous first Brock vs. Goldberg match. I strongly believe had a match like Brock vs. Eddie been booked today Brock would've won. The scrappy underdog with a groundswell of fan support vs. the unstoppable monster? Something about that sounds familiar... Oh yeah:  |
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Post by Chiral on Feb 17, 2022 2:31:17 GMT -5
I wasn't even a year into watching at this point, and I remember logging onto the computer to check the results (man the days when I'd have to wait a day to read results from a show...) thinking to myself "Well Eddie probably put up a good fight at least" then being slack jawed when I saw he actually won the title.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 17, 2022 2:34:37 GMT -5
What's crazy about this is I remember it kinda coming out of nowhere. Like Eddie wasn't being obviously built for a main event spot in the previous 6-12 months. I'm pretty sure he and Chavo were losing clean to the Bashams in late 2003. He was basically squashed by Big Show to lose the US title. On paper this should have been a filler pre-Wrestlemania feud for Brock but Eddie's promos in the weeks leading to the match were so good that it became clear he had to win and all of a sudden he was a main eventer. Yeah, the way we got to Eddie vs. Brock in the first place was bizarre, with Eddie going from being a really over midcarder to winning the Smackdown Royal Rumble and facing Brock for the title. But the big thing that turned Eddie's match from a filler feud to a match where he was the odds-on favorite was that they were clearly building Goldberg vs. Lesnar in a Raw vs. Smackdown match. And since Brock cost Goldberg a chance at the World Heavyweight title by interfering in the Royal Rumble, it only made sense that Goldberg would cost Lesnar the match against Eddie. However, this is one of those cases where WWE's revisionist history is actually better than the reality, as they will show all sorts of clips of Eddie DDTing Lesnar's head onto the title belt and Frogsplashing his way to main event stardom, but not so much with Goldberg spearing Lesnar into the mat beforehand. It's fascinating to contrast the modern belief that wrestlers will only get over by winning clean with the fact that THREE of the most beloved and famous world title wins of all time (Steve Austin at WM14 with the Mike Tyson fast count, Mankind on the 1/4/99 RAW with the Austin chair shot and Eddie Guerrero at No Way Out 2004 with the Goldberg run-in and the DDT on the belt) are all screwy as f***. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 17, 2022 3:46:01 GMT -5
Yeah, the way we got to Eddie vs. Brock in the first place was bizarre, with Eddie going from being a really over midcarder to winning the Smackdown Royal Rumble and facing Brock for the title. But the big thing that turned Eddie's match from a filler feud to a match where he was the odds-on favorite was that they were clearly building Goldberg vs. Lesnar in a Raw vs. Smackdown match. And since Brock cost Goldberg a chance at the World Heavyweight title by interfering in the Royal Rumble, it only made sense that Goldberg would cost Lesnar the match against Eddie. However, this is one of those cases where WWE's revisionist history is actually better than the reality, as they will show all sorts of clips of Eddie DDTing Lesnar's head onto the title belt and Frogsplashing his way to main event stardom, but not so much with Goldberg spearing Lesnar into the mat beforehand. It's fascinating to contrast the modern belief that wrestlers will only get over by winning clean with the fact that THREE of the most beloved and famous world title wins of all time (Steve Austin at WM14 with the Mike Tyson fast count, Mankind on the 1/4/99 RAW with the Austin chair shot and Eddie Guerrero at No Way Out 2004 with the Goldberg run-in and the DDT on the belt) are all screwy as f***. They didn't really GET OVER with those moves... they were already over... but yeah, >_> |
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Feb 17, 2022 8:35:16 GMT -5
18 years later Goldberg and Lesnar are still in the World title scene...
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 17, 2022 9:06:47 GMT -5
The following month we had the infamous first Brock vs. Goldberg match. I strongly believe had a match like Brock vs. Eddie been booked today Brock would've won. Something else happened that month....but I can't quite remember it.... The bWo reunited, didn't they? |
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