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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 16, 2022 16:04:09 GMT -5
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Post by mistery on Feb 16, 2022 16:07:30 GMT -5
Yeah. This whole 2.0 branding has been nothing short of a failure so far. The show is trying to bring in younger viewers, but like I've mentioned a million times before: If people want to look at tits and ass these days and lots and lots of sex jokes or sex itself, the internet exists.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 16, 2022 16:13:54 GMT -5
Yeah. This whole 2.0 branding has been nothing short of a failure so far. The show is trying to bring in younger viewers, but like I've mentioned a million times before: If people want to look at tits and ass these days and lots and lots of sex jokes or sex itself, the internet exists. Viewership wise, yeah 2.0 hasn’t proved to be a solution, but I really don’t think Black and Gold was the flawless product that it was pre pandemic. The talent pool didn’t have much star potential imo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 16:22:04 GMT -5
Yeah. This whole 2.0 branding has been nothing short of a failure so far. The show is trying to bring in younger viewers, but like I've mentioned a million times before: If people want to look at tits and ass these days and lots and lots of sex jokes or sex itself, the internet exists. Viewership wise, yeah 2.0 hasn’t proved to be a solution, but I really don’t think Black and Gold was the flawless product that it was pre pandemic. The talent pool didn’t have much star potential imo. WAIT WHAT? Bianca Belair Rhea Ripley Undisputed Era Finn Balor Keith Lee Damien Priest Pete Dunne Cameron Grimes Io Shirai Shotzi Blackheart Toni Storm Johnny Gargano Tomasso Ciampa You can debate about what would become of them once they had hit the main roster but not much star potential? Like either people forget or just outright downplay how absoloutley f***ing stacked that black n gold USA network roster was especially the women.
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Post by mistery on Feb 16, 2022 16:25:39 GMT -5
Also for all the talk of Black and Gold not having star power, while I would agree on the mens side, Io's stuff pretty much always did extremely well among younger viewers and in general. Her match with Sasha came very close to breaking a million viewers and the demo rating was insane. And then her match against Candice at Halloween Havoc did extremely well. And her match with Raquel at Stand and Deliver broke over a million viewers.
It's why I'm baffled on why they are focusing on women like Mandy who everyone knows isn't going to move the needle in a positive direction. Because Bruce or whoever seems to think that younger fans only think about hot women (or men) and that's all they want, when that isn't true.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 16, 2022 16:35:45 GMT -5
Viewership wise, yeah 2.0 hasn’t proved to be a solution, but I really don’t think Black and Gold was the flawless product that it was pre pandemic. The talent pool didn’t have much star potential imo. WAIT WHAT? Bianca Belair Rhea Ripley Undisputed Era Finn Balor Keith Lee Damien Priest Pete Dunne Cameron Grimes Io Shirai Shotzi Blackheart Toni Storm Johnny Gargano Tomasso Ciampa You can debate about what would become of them once they had hit the main roster but not much star potential? Like either people forget or just outright downplay how absoloutley f***ing stacked that black n gold USA network roster was especially the women. It really didn’t translate well at the end. It felt really really boring at least in imo.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 16, 2022 16:42:10 GMT -5
Viewership wise, yeah 2.0 hasn’t proved to be a solution, but I really don’t think Black and Gold was the flawless product that it was pre pandemic. The talent pool didn’t have much star potential imo. WAIT WHAT? Bianca Belair Rhea Ripley Undisputed Era Finn Balor Keith Lee Damien Priest Pete Dunne Cameron Grimes Io Shirai Shotzi Blackheart Toni Storm Johnny Gargano Tomasso Ciampa You can debate about what would become of them once they had hit the main roster but not much star potential? Like either people forget or just outright downplay how absoloutley f***ing stacked that black n gold USA network roster was especially the women. I think most of the women definitely had star power with Bianca, Io, and Rhea. However with the men other then Lee and Balor I don't really see any of those guys as main event superstars on the main roster. Grimes would be a good character but more suited to be a fun upper midcard babyface type guy and the others are all too small and vanilla and would end up being "good hands". Also I think while Black and Gold was more talented especially from an in ring standpoint from a storyline and character standpoint it was kind of bland and forgettable. Like other then the Way and I guess Dexter whom eventually ended up being an extension of that, I don' really remember much from Black and Gold in it's last year or two. It was just basically UE dominating all the time and having a stranglehold on everything and the women's division being bogged down by every title reign being overly and needlessly long leading to things becoming uninteresting. I thought they had something with Rhea but then had to bring Charlotte down to ruin that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 16:46:31 GMT -5
Also for all the talk of Black and Gold not having star power, while I would agree on the mens side, Io's stuff pretty much always did extremely well among younger viewers and in general. Her match with Sasha came very close to breaking a million viewers and the demo rating was insane. And then her match against Candice at Halloween Havoc did extremely well. And her match with Raquel at Stand and Deliver broke over a million viewers. It's why I'm baffled on why they are focusing on women like Mandy who everyone knows isn't going to move the needle in a positive direction. Because Bruce or whoever seems to think that younger fans only think about hot women (or men) and that's all they want, when that isn't true. You know old skeezy men are influencing the show when just about every woman has a gimmick picked out of pornhub categories.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 17:03:16 GMT -5
Also for all the talk of Black and Gold not having star power, while I would agree on the mens side, Io's stuff pretty much always did extremely well among younger viewers and in general. Her match with Sasha came very close to breaking a million viewers and the demo rating was insane. And then her match against Candice at Halloween Havoc did extremely well. And her match with Raquel at Stand and Deliver broke over a million viewers. It's why I'm baffled on why they are focusing on women like Mandy who everyone knows isn't going to move the needle in a positive direction. Because Bruce or whoever seems to think that younger fans only think about hot women (or men) and that's all they want, when that isn't true. You know old skeezy men are influencing the show when just about every woman has a gimmick picked out of pornhub categories. Every woman except Dakota. No one has any f***ing idea what Dakota's supposed to be.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 16, 2022 17:06:05 GMT -5
Also for all the talk of Black and Gold not having star power, while I would agree on the mens side, Io's stuff pretty much always did extremely well among younger viewers and in general. Her match with Sasha came very close to breaking a million viewers and the demo rating was insane. And then her match against Candice at Halloween Havoc did extremely well. And her match with Raquel at Stand and Deliver broke over a million viewers. It's why I'm baffled on why they are focusing on women like Mandy who everyone knows isn't going to move the needle in a positive direction. Because Bruce or whoever seems to think that younger fans only think about hot women (or men) and that's all they want, when that isn't true. You know old skeezy men are influencing the show when just about every woman has a gimmick picked out of pornhub categories. Just hearing about this is enough to make me never want to check out 2.0.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 17:08:42 GMT -5
You know old skeezy men are influencing the show when just about every woman has a gimmick picked out of pornhub categories. Every woman except Dakota. No one has any f***ing idea what Dakota's supposed to be. I was not really sure either...untill lastnight and maybe it was just for lastnight but it was the goggle'esc whatever she was wearing that immediately had me realizing who she was channeling.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 16, 2022 17:08:58 GMT -5
I wonder what the point is that USA is like you know what, just put this on Peacock. I would assume reruns of Law and Order or something would do better than what they're getting right now. I could be wrong, but something's definitely not working.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 17:19:32 GMT -5
Every woman except Dakota. No one has any f***ing idea what Dakota's supposed to be. I was not really sure either...untill lastnight and maybe it was just for lastnight but it was the goggle'esc whatever she was wearing that immediately had me realizing who she was channeling. I just hope teaming with Wendy Choo leads to Dakota going face again, because heel Dakota sucks.
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Post by gl83 on Feb 16, 2022 17:21:40 GMT -5
Every woman except Dakota. No one has any f***ing idea what Dakota's supposed to be. I was not really sure either...untill lastnight and maybe it was just for lastnight but it was the goggle'esc whatever she was wearing that immediately had me realizing who she was channeling. She was also wearing similar goggles last week. https://www.instagram.com/p/CZvkfWjguIj
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 17:25:53 GMT -5
I was not really sure either...untill lastnight and maybe it was just for lastnight but it was the goggle'esc whatever she was wearing that immediately had me realizing who she was channeling. I just hope teaming with Wendy Choo leads to Dakota going face again, because heel Dakota sucks. Heel Dakota had great potential when she first turned and she rocked the baseball shirt style gear etc. But then is tapered off when she finished the Teagan feud and then only gained steam back during her title feud with Io. After that it was all about Baquel and she has never recovered.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Feb 16, 2022 17:31:25 GMT -5
You know old skeezy men are influencing the show when just about every woman has a gimmick picked out of pornhub categories. Every woman except Dakota. No one has any f***ing idea what Dakota's supposed to be. Cora Jade's supposed to be Poochie.
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Post by eJm on Feb 16, 2022 17:37:14 GMT -5
I wonder what the point is that USA is like you know what, just put this on Peacock. I would assume reruns of Law and Order or something would do better than what they're getting right now. I could be wrong, but something's definitely not working. It’d likely be sooner rather than later, right? Because even if you take away what it was doing before (and it was doing way better before so “marketability” it had in spades), it’s really not fair to have that pressure on your developmental talent by trying to balance having a show that’s attempting to be marketable and also attempting to basically be the main way some of these people learn to wrestle.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Feb 16, 2022 17:48:43 GMT -5
I wonder if NXT does well in ad money even with less viewers because NXT demo or alot them probably have a steady income to buy shit from TV? right?
Has anyone reported on this?
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Post by Legion on Feb 16, 2022 17:50:53 GMT -5
That show deserved better.
People are stupid.
Watch the trash fires that are Raw and SD, but wont watch some of the most fun, actually character driven wrestling on TV right now?
People are stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 17:53:07 GMT -5
Eh, I love NXT, but I don't think we should be insulting people for not liking it.
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