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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Feb 22, 2022 15:10:15 GMT -5
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Um... were those the rejected names for the rich girl character that they decided to use anyway for characters they just don't work with? Like, "Fallon Henley" does not sound like a bartender. "Tatum Paxley" does not sound like a fighting enthusiast. They need to get a better name generating program.
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Post by Hypnosis on Feb 22, 2022 19:42:23 GMT -5
Tatum Paxley Fallon Henley Um... were those the rejected names for the rich girl character that they decided to use anyway for characters they just don't work with? Like, "Fallon Henley" does not sound like a bartender. "Tatum Paxley" does not sound like a fighting enthusiast. They need to get a better name generating program. I dread Rok-C's future WWE name. Kimmel Stanley? Leto Kingsley?
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Feb 23, 2022 16:18:53 GMT -5
Tatum Paxley Fallon Henley Um... were those the rejected names for the rich girl character that they decided to use anyway for characters they just don't work with? Like, "Fallon Henley" does not sound like a bartender. "Tatum Paxley" does not sound like a fighting enthusiast. They need to get a better name generating program. I dread Rok-C's future WWE name. Kimmel Stanley? Leto Kingsley? Rocky Sea
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2022 18:29:32 GMT -5
Tatum Paxley Fallon Henley Um... were those the rejected names for the rich girl character that they decided to use anyway for characters they just don't work with? Like, "Fallon Henley" does not sound like a bartender. "Tatum Paxley" does not sound like a fighting enthusiast. They need to get a better name generating program. I dread Rok-C's future WWE name. Kimmel Stanley? Leto Kingsley? Hayden Maynard
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 24, 2022 4:55:23 GMT -5
Can any of this be more obvious? I think the only match of the first round where there could be some doubt in the outcome is Indi/Persia against Choo/Dakota and even that not really since they are setting up a split and feud between Indi and Persia.
Even the obvious final with Io/KLR against Cora/Raquel has a predictable outcome if you think about it. Cora and Raquel would pretty much have to go over because if Io and KLR win and go after the tag belts that means there would be no one for Mandy to feud with for the singles belt. She already beat Cora and Raquel in the triple threat at New Years Evil and then when you look at the rest of the faces on the roster you have Nikkita Lyons who it would be way too soon since she just debuted, Sarray who they've given up on, and Wendy who is more of a lower card comedy character. On the other hand Mandy has never beat Io and while she did beat KLR it was after outside interference so at least if those two don't win she could fight either one of them or possibly both in a three way.
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Post by gl83 on Feb 24, 2022 8:50:24 GMT -5
Can any of this be more obvious? I think the only match of the first round where there could be some doubt in the outcome is Indi/Persia against Choo/Dakota and even that not really since they are setting up a split and feud between Indi and Persia. Even the obvious final with Io/KLR against Cora/Raquel has a predictable outcome if you think about it. Cora and Raquel would pretty much have to go over because if Io and KLR win and go after the tag belts that means there would be no one for Mandy to feud with for the singles belt. She already beat Cora and Raquel in the triple threat at New Years Evil and then when you look at the rest of the faces on the roster you have Nikkita Lyons who it would be way too soon since she just debuted, Sarray who they've given up on, and Wendy who is more of a lower card comedy character. On the other hand Mandy has never beat Io and while she did beat KLR it was after outside interference so at least if those two don't win she could fight either one of them or possibly both in a three way. I’m not even sure if you can go with that obvious final because of how close we are to Stand and Deliver. I mean there are only 5 NXT episodes between now and Stand and Deliver. So, they need to start setting up Mandy’s challenger ASAP. They’re already setting up Breakker/Ziggler, Knight/Waller and possibly Dunne/Grimes/Hayes, Creed Bros./Imperium; meanwhile there’s nothing going on with Mandy. And the Dusty Cup finals probably takes place the week before Stand and Deliver, which would only leave 1 NXT episode to set it up. Also, with the report of Raquel being due for a call up and it being delayed due to them needing her for the Dusty Cup, that kinda gives away that she & Cora aren’t winning the tag titles even if they win the Dusty Cup.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 24, 2022 9:02:22 GMT -5
Can any of this be more obvious? I think the only match of the first round where there could be some doubt in the outcome is Indi/Persia against Choo/Dakota and even that not really since they are setting up a split and feud between Indi and Persia. Even the obvious final with Io/KLR against Cora/Raquel has a predictable outcome if you think about it. Cora and Raquel would pretty much have to go over because if Io and KLR win and go after the tag belts that means there would be no one for Mandy to feud with for the singles belt. She already beat Cora and Raquel in the triple threat at New Years Evil and then when you look at the rest of the faces on the roster you have Nikkita Lyons who it would be way too soon since she just debuted, Sarray who they've given up on, and Wendy who is more of a lower card comedy character. On the other hand Mandy has never beat Io and while she did beat KLR it was after outside interference so at least if those two don't win she could fight either one of them or possibly both in a three way. I’m not even sure if you can go with that obvious final because of how close we are to Stand and Deliver. I mean there are only 5 NXT episodes between now and Stand and Deliver. So, they need to start setting up Mandy’s challenger ASAP. They’re already setting up Breakker/Ziggler, Knight/Waller and possibly Dunne/Grimes/Hayes, Creed Bros./Imperium; meanwhile there’s nothing going on with Mandy. And the Dusty Cup finals probably takes place the week before Stand and Deliver, which would only leave 1 NXT episode to set it up. Also, with the report of Raquel being due for a call up and it being delayed due to them needing her for the Dusty Cup, that kinda gives away that she & Cora aren’t winning the tag titles even if they win the Dusty Cup. It's weird with Mandy in that she's pushed as the centerpiece of the division but yet at the moment they don't seem to really care about giving her any kind of big title program. She had the brief feud with KLR but then they decided to blow it off before Vengeance Day for some reason so she didn't even get a match on that and just accompanied Gigi and Jacy for their match instead. Oddly it seems like Gigi and Jacy are more of a focal point at the moment then her when it comes to Toxic Attraction as most of the focus seems to be on who is going to win the Dusty Cup and challenge.them.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 24, 2022 9:09:06 GMT -5
The tournament is also weird when you map out the face/heel alignments:
- Io and KLR (faces) vs. Lash Legend (heel???) and Amari Miller (face) - Kacy and Kayden (faces) vs. Ivy (face???) and Tatum Paxley (?) - Indi (face) and Persia (heel?) vs. Wendy Choo (face) and Dakota Kai (heel) - Cora and Raquel (faces) vs. Valentina and Yulisa (?)
Some inferencing there, but unless you consider Valentina and Yulisa as clear cut heels (and why would you when their first match after their vignette was against Dakota Kai and the video package made them out to be faces), there is no match that is clear faces against clear heels.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 9:25:40 GMT -5
Can any of this be more obvious? I think the only match of the first round where there could be some doubt in the outcome is Indi/Persia against Choo/Dakota and even that not really since they are setting up a split and feud between Indi and Persia. Even the obvious final with Io/KLR against Cora/Raquel has a predictable outcome if you think about it. Cora and Raquel would pretty much have to go over because if Io and KLR win and go after the tag belts that means there would be no one for Mandy to feud with for the singles belt. She already beat Cora and Raquel in the triple threat at New Years Evil and then when you look at the rest of the faces on the roster you have Nikkita Lyons who it would be way too soon since she just debuted, Sarray who they've given up on, and Wendy who is more of a lower card comedy character. On the other hand Mandy has never beat Io and while she did beat KLR it was after outside interference so at least if those two don't win she could fight either one of them or possibly both in a three way. I’m not even sure if you can go with that obvious final because of how close we are to Stand and Deliver. I mean there are only 5 NXT episodes between now and Stand and Deliver. So, they need to start setting up Mandy’s challenger ASAP. They’re already setting up Breakker/Ziggler, Knight/Waller and possibly Dunne/Grimes/Hayes, Creed Bros./Imperium; meanwhile there’s nothing going on with Mandy. And the Dusty Cup finals probably takes place the week before Stand and Deliver, which would only leave 1 NXT episode to set it up. Also, with the report of Raquel being due for a call up and it being delayed due to them needing her for the Dusty Cup, that kinda gives away that she & Cora aren’t winning the tag titles even if they win the Dusty Cup. Yea the Mandy thing is a conundrum but also probably easily solved because of them crossing stars over from Raw finally so I wont be the least surprised if someone from there is brought in for that because all the other viable women (Io and KLR) are tied up in the Dusty Classic right now. Unless KLR and Io lose in the next round which would just completely deflate any interest in this tournament not that there is whole lot to begin with.
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Post by gl83 on Feb 24, 2022 9:58:29 GMT -5
The tournament is also weird when you map out the face/heel alignments: - Io and KLR (faces) vs. Lash Legend (heel???) and Amari Miller (face) - Kacy and Kayden (faces) vs. Ivy (face???) and Tatum Paxley (?) - Indi (face) and Persia (heel?) vs. Wendy Choo (face) and Dakota Kai (heel) - Cora and Raquel (faces) vs. Valentina and Yulisa (?) Some inferencing there, but unless you consider Valentina and Yulisa as clear cut heels (and why would you when their first match after their vignette was against Dakota Kai and the video package made them out to be faces), there is no match that is clear faces against clear heels. Yeah, the Face-Heel alignments are kinda messed up in this tournament. Io/KLR are Faces, Lash Legend is a Heel, but Amari Miller was a Face. Kacy & Kayden are Faces, but Ivy Nile is a Heel and Tatum was Heel by proxy. Raquel & Cora are Face as are Valentina & Yulisa. Indi Hartwell is a Face, but Persia Pirotta has been teasing a Heel turn with her lusting after Duke Hudson and her shooting dirty looks at InDex. Wendy Choo is a Face and Dakota Kai is a Heel, but Dakota’s been giving off Face vibes the past couple weeks, even going as far as to try to warn Wendy off from teaming with her given her history with friends.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 24, 2022 10:11:38 GMT -5
The tournament is also weird when you map out the face/heel alignments: - Io and KLR (faces) vs. Lash Legend (heel???) and Amari Miller (face) - Kacy and Kayden (faces) vs. Ivy (face???) and Tatum Paxley (?) - Indi (face) and Persia (heel?) vs. Wendy Choo (face) and Dakota Kai (heel) - Cora and Raquel (faces) vs. Valentina and Yulisa (?) Some inferencing there, but unless you consider Valentina and Yulisa as clear cut heels (and why would you when their first match after their vignette was against Dakota Kai and the video package made them out to be faces), there is no match that is clear faces against clear heels. but Ivy Nile is a Heel But the Creed Brothers are faces? I'm so confused.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 24, 2022 10:15:35 GMT -5
I’m not even sure if you can go with that obvious final because of how close we are to Stand and Deliver. I mean there are only 5 NXT episodes between now and Stand and Deliver. So, they need to start setting up Mandy’s challenger ASAP. They’re already setting up Breakker/Ziggler, Knight/Waller and possibly Dunne/Grimes/Hayes, Creed Bros./Imperium; meanwhile there’s nothing going on with Mandy. And the Dusty Cup finals probably takes place the week before Stand and Deliver, which would only leave 1 NXT episode to set it up. Also, with the report of Raquel being due for a call up and it being delayed due to them needing her for the Dusty Cup, that kinda gives away that she & Cora aren’t winning the tag titles even if they win the Dusty Cup. Yea the Mandy thing is a conundrum but also probably easily solved because of them crossing stars over from Raw finally so I wont be the least surprised if someone from there is brought in for that because all the other viable women (Io and KLR) are tied up in the Dusty Classic right now. Unless KLR and Io lose in the next round which would just completely deflate any interest in this tournament not that there is whole lot to begin with. Honestly, bringing in a main roster woman to face Mandy wouldn't be a bad idea. Frankly speaking, whatever title defense she'd have is likely going to be a bit of a filler defense. This would be a bit of novelty, give someone who is just not being used something to do, and you're preserving some women as possible challengers. Not sure who I'd suggest using, but it'd have a number of benefits.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 24, 2022 12:57:48 GMT -5
Yea the Mandy thing is a conundrum but also probably easily solved because of them crossing stars over from Raw finally so I wont be the least surprised if someone from there is brought in for that because all the other viable women (Io and KLR) are tied up in the Dusty Classic right now. Unless KLR and Io lose in the next round which would just completely deflate any interest in this tournament not that there is whole lot to begin with. Honestly, bringing in a main roster woman to face Mandy wouldn't be a bad idea. Frankly speaking, whatever title defense she'd have is likely going to be a bit of a filler defense. This would be a bit of novelty, give someone who is just not being used something to do, and you're preserving some women as possible challengers. Not sure who I'd suggest using, but it'd have a number of benefits. Isn’t Mandy supposed to be the main roster veteran working with the developmental women?
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Post by anglarite on Feb 24, 2022 13:00:41 GMT -5
Uh... It's not entirely clear for me how Charlotte and Becky are gonna win this one.
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Post by Hypnosis on Feb 24, 2022 13:17:40 GMT -5
Yea the Mandy thing is a conundrum but also probably easily solved because of them crossing stars over from Raw finally so I wont be the least surprised if someone from there is brought in for that because all the other viable women (Io and KLR) are tied up in the Dusty Classic right now. Unless KLR and Io lose in the next round which would just completely deflate any interest in this tournament not that there is whole lot to begin with. Honestly, bringing in a main roster woman to face Mandy wouldn't be a bad idea. Frankly speaking, whatever title defense she'd have is likely going to be a bit of a filler defense. This would be a bit of novelty, give someone who is just not being used something to do, and you're preserving some women as possible challengers. Not sure who I'd suggest using, but it'd have a number of benefits. Liv?
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 24, 2022 13:41:44 GMT -5
I’d rather not see Liv just made to lose ANOTHER big match.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 15:32:59 GMT -5
Yea the Mandy thing is a conundrum but also probably easily solved because of them crossing stars over from Raw finally so I wont be the least surprised if someone from there is brought in for that because all the other viable women (Io and KLR) are tied up in the Dusty Classic right now. Unless KLR and Io lose in the next round which would just completely deflate any interest in this tournament not that there is whole lot to begin with. Honestly, bringing in a main roster woman to face Mandy wouldn't be a bad idea. Frankly speaking, whatever title defense she'd have is likely going to be a bit of a filler defense. This would be a bit of novelty, give someone who is just not being used something to do, and you're preserving some women as possible challengers. Not sure who I'd suggest using, but it'd have a number of benefits. Shotzi would be nice. Nattie would make sense.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 24, 2022 16:59:47 GMT -5
But the Creed Brothers are faces? I'm so confused. Diamond Mine is so confusing when it comes to whether they are faces and heels. The Creeds are feuding with Imperium who are definitely heels but they still wrestle faces quite a bit too. Ivy it seems like it's the most clear cut in her alignment as I would say she's more heel in that she wrestles only faces and was also presented as a jerk in her dealing with the new recruit, immediately giving her the cold shoulder and then beating her up for taking the fall in their tag match. Strong I would say is probably more face since his most recent matches were with Walter/Gunther and Carmelo both of whom are are clearly heels. Bivens I would say is more heel but even he's it's kind of unclear in that they've had him get menaced and bullied by clear heel Gunther which I guess is an attempt to make him sympathetic. Even though I really like all the people in (Strong less then the others but he's fine) I don't think Diamond Mine really works as a stable in that I think all the different acts within it would function much better outside it as separate acts on their own. Like the Creeds should just be a bad ass babyface tag team, Ivy should be a monster heel in the women's division with Bivens as her manager to talk for her, and then Strong should be a upper midcard gatekeeper type guy who just slide in wherever you need him. It just leads to counterproductive stuff like Ivy being this stone faced ruthless heel when she's wrestling but then all of sudden being this smiley seemingly very pleasant woman when cheering on Roderick or the Creeds outside the ring when they are fighting heels like Imperium or Joe Gacy.
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Post by holyshida on Feb 24, 2022 21:48:03 GMT -5
Only 2 of them are legit teams, the rest are just singles wrestlers thrown together with no thought at all. I'm amazed that they never signed the Renegade twins as they had tryouts with wwe just last month. They're both really good and tag teams is what they badly need.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Feb 25, 2022 1:43:08 GMT -5
Oh Tatum Paxley. You are my new NXT crush. 😍
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