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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 3, 2022 13:17:19 GMT -5
Just for the sake of discussion, I think it's important to note that Tony Khan would very likely have the ability to buy out the last 3 days of the contract and debut him early. It wouldn't necessarily be cheap, but it wouldn't be prohibitively expensive for TK, either, particularly with the contract being so close to lapsed. That would require WWE agreeing.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 3, 2022 13:18:23 GMT -5
I’m hoping for and guessing Sw3rve.
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Post by clifford on Mar 3, 2022 13:53:32 GMT -5
I'm kinda hoping it's not a new signing. I'm hoping for Miro.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2022 13:57:36 GMT -5
Just for the sake of discussion, I think it's important to note that Tony Khan would very likely have the ability to buy out the last 3 days of the contract and debut him early. It wouldn't necessarily be cheap, but it wouldn't be prohibitively expensive for TK, either, particularly with the contract being so close to lapsed. That would require WWE agreeing. I know, but with only 3 days left on a 90-day noncompete, there's very likely some sum of money that WWE would accept to let him out. Particularly against the backdrop of the notoriously dubious enforceability of WWE's noncompete which, as I've always understood it, is more of a "we are giving you notice that we are going to release you from your contract in 90 days" kind of thing. A true noncompete clause, generally, would be a hallmark of an employer/employee relationship (as opposed to independent contractor), which the WWE lawyers are savvy enough to avoid like the plague, so, while none of us have actually read the contracts involved, it would make sense to me that WWE would steer clear of a true noncompete in the traditional sense. All I really mean to say is that Jeff Hardy remains a possibility, albeit maybe more of a long shot, even with a couple of days left under WWE's "noncompete."
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 3, 2022 14:24:53 GMT -5
That would require WWE agreeing. I know, but with only 3 days left on a 90-day noncompete, there's very likely some sum of money that WWE would accept to let him out. Particularly against the backdrop of the notoriously dubious enforceability of WWE's noncompete which, as I've always understood it, is more of a "we are giving you notice that we are going to release you from your contract in 90 days" kind of thing. A true noncompete clause, generally, would be a hallmark of an employer/employee relationship (as opposed to independent contractor), which the WWE lawyers are savvy enough to avoid like the plague, so, while none of us have actually read the contracts involved, it would make sense to me that WWE would steer clear of a true noncompete in the traditional sense. All I really mean to say is that Jeff Hardy remains a possibility, albeit maybe more of a long shot, even with a couple of days left under WWE's "noncompete." I suppose it’s possible but I can’t imagine WWE letting him out just in time to appear on an AEW PPV for the type of money I imagine AEW would offer, but crazier things have certainly happened.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2022 14:59:05 GMT -5
I know, but with only 3 days left on a 90-day noncompete, there's very likely some sum of money that WWE would accept to let him out. Particularly against the backdrop of the notoriously dubious enforceability of WWE's noncompete which, as I've always understood it, is more of a "we are giving you notice that we are going to release you from your contract in 90 days" kind of thing. A true noncompete clause, generally, would be a hallmark of an employer/employee relationship (as opposed to independent contractor), which the WWE lawyers are savvy enough to avoid like the plague, so, while none of us have actually read the contracts involved, it would make sense to me that WWE would steer clear of a true noncompete in the traditional sense. All I really mean to say is that Jeff Hardy remains a possibility, albeit maybe more of a long shot, even with a couple of days left under WWE's "noncompete." I suppose it’s possible but I can’t imagine WWE letting him out just in time to appear on an AEW PPV for the type of money I imagine AEW would offer, but crazier things have certainly happened. Without getting into the legal minutia, the way the whole arrangement appears to me, Jeff Hardy could probably just breach the contract and show up on March 6, but would then be liable for damages for the 3 days that were left on the contract (or, even, however much time was actually left on the contract when Jeff was "released"). I think that Tony Khan would gladly pay whatever amount that is if it meant being able to debut Jeff Hardy a little early in a ladder match on PPV, and WWE would probably accept it with the knowledge that it's all the damages they'd be legally entitled to for breach of contract, anyway. That presumes that there truly isn't an actual noncompete, and it really is a "we are going to terminate your contract in 90 days" arrangement (i.e. more of a notice period). But, that's what I've always heard, and it makes sense because I really do think WWE would be loath to put actual noncompete agreements in their "independent" contracts. That would make it far easier for disgruntled ex-"independent contractors" to argue in court that they were employees the whole time, which could blow up the entire WWE system.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 3, 2022 15:53:30 GMT -5
I suppose it’s possible but I can’t imagine WWE letting him out just in time to appear on an AEW PPV for the type of money I imagine AEW would offer, but crazier things have certainly happened. Without getting into the legal minutia, the way the whole arrangement appears to me, Jeff Hardy could probably just breach the contract and show up on March 6, but would then be liable for damages for the 3 days that were left on the contract (or, even, however much time was actually left on the contract when Jeff was "released"). I think that Tony Khan would gladly pay whatever amount that is if it meant being able to debut Jeff Hardy a little early in a ladder match on PPV, and WWE would probably accept it with the knowledge that it's all the damages they'd be legally entitled to for breach of contract, anyway. That presumes that there truly isn't an actual noncompete, and it really is a "we are going to terminate your contract in 90 days" arrangement (i.e. more of a notice period). But, that's what I've always heard, and it makes sense because I really do think WWE would be loath to put actual noncompete agreements in their "independent" contracts. That would make it far easier for disgruntled ex-"independent contractors" to argue in court that they were employees the whole time, which could blow up the entire WWE system. From the older contracts I’ve seen copies of it, it is essentially a notice period. They’re telling you that we are releasing you, effective 90 days from now. So technically Hardy is still contracted to WWE. There could be more at stake than just Hardy paying the 3 days’ salary he is getting too, as AEW would knowingly be using a wrestler contracted with another organization on an exclusive contract. Tortious interference of a contract or some other type of similar claim might have legs.
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Post by greyfmdan on Mar 3, 2022 17:53:44 GMT -5
When the 7th man comes out, won’t the main question be, “Who’s side is he on?”?
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Mar 3, 2022 21:12:53 GMT -5
Without getting into the legal minutia, the way the whole arrangement appears to me, Jeff Hardy could probably just breach the contract and show up on March 6, but would then be liable for damages for the 3 days that were left on the contract (or, even, however much time was actually left on the contract when Jeff was "released"). I think that Tony Khan would gladly pay whatever amount that is if it meant being able to debut Jeff Hardy a little early in a ladder match on PPV, and WWE would probably accept it with the knowledge that it's all the damages they'd be legally entitled to for breach of contract, anyway. That presumes that there truly isn't an actual noncompete, and it really is a "we are going to terminate your contract in 90 days" arrangement (i.e. more of a notice period). But, that's what I've always heard, and it makes sense because I really do think WWE would be loath to put actual noncompete agreements in their "independent" contracts. That would make it far easier for disgruntled ex-"independent contractors" to argue in court that they were employees the whole time, which could blow up the entire WWE system. From the older contracts I’ve seen copies of it, it is essentially a notice period. They’re telling you that we are releasing you, effective 90 days from now. So technically Hardy is still contracted to WWE. There could be more at stake than just Hardy paying the 3 days’ salary he is getting too, as AEW would knowingly be using a wrestler contracted with another organization on an exclusive contract. Tortious interference of a contract or some other type of similar claim might have legs. Yeah, they'd bury the shit out of AEW in court filings for this this because that's what Vince and McDevitt have done for 30 years.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Mar 4, 2022 3:24:44 GMT -5
Fake Sting
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 4, 2022 5:01:02 GMT -5
Just for the sake of discussion, I think it's important to note that Tony Khan would very likely have the ability to buy out the last 3 days of the contract and debut him early. It wouldn't necessarily be cheap, but it wouldn't be prohibitively expensive for TK, either, particularly with the contract being so close to lapsed. I doubt it, if only because they could easily just debut him on the next Dynamite, which is already something of a trend to begin with. I think it's either SW3RVE or Josh Alexander. Outside chance of Claudio.
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Post by eJm on Mar 4, 2022 5:28:09 GMT -5
Just for the sake of discussion, I think it's important to note that Tony Khan would very likely have the ability to buy out the last 3 days of the contract and debut him early. It wouldn't necessarily be cheap, but it wouldn't be prohibitively expensive for TK, either, particularly with the contract being so close to lapsed. I doubt it, if only because they could easily just debut him on the next Dynamite, which is already something of a trend to begin with. I think it's either SW3RVE or Josh Alexander. Outside chance of Claudio. …I didn’t even think of Josh Alexander. Adding him to the list.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 4, 2022 5:32:26 GMT -5
Platypus Mod! >_> <_<
I dunno... I think it'd be a great way to introduce Claudio if they got him....
by the same token him just coming out and Uppercutting Kingston into oblivion during the Jericho match could also work if they signed him like right away.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 4, 2022 5:35:01 GMT -5
If you wanted to debut Jeff Hardy it feels like it'd make the most sense to have Andrade beat down Matt after they lose at the PPV and then Jeff shows up to help him get revenge.
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Post by lildude8218 on Mar 4, 2022 9:01:59 GMT -5
The 7th man is Syxx
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Post by The Spelunker! on Mar 4, 2022 9:48:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2022 10:28:45 GMT -5
Just for the sake of discussion, I think it's important to note that Tony Khan would very likely have the ability to buy out the last 3 days of the contract and debut him early. It wouldn't necessarily be cheap, but it wouldn't be prohibitively expensive for TK, either, particularly with the contract being so close to lapsed. I doubt it, if only because they could easily just debut him on the next Dynamite, which is already something of a trend to begin with. I think it's either SW3RVE or Josh Alexander. Outside chance of Claudio. The more I think about it, the more I agree with you and polarbearpete. I just think that, since the WWE contract apparently doesn't actually have a noncompete clause in it, and Jeff Hardy would be within 3 days of the expiration of his notice of termination period (ostensibly, as an independent contractor), the potential damages for breach of contract (or even tortious interference, potential punitive damages notwithstanding, if you choose to go that route) would be so negligible that WWE may just agree to a buyout. I know there's professional animosity, at least to some extent, but I think the people involved in making those types of decisions on both sides would just do what is fiscally responsible. So, Jeff Hardy is not entirely out of the question. But, yeah, TL;DR - you guys are totally right, and Jeff's contract ends on a Wednesday, so he'll probably just be on Dynamite next week.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 4, 2022 10:31:12 GMT -5
Then Dustin comes out as Seven and Syxx is terrified of him
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Post by chrom on Mar 4, 2022 11:36:29 GMT -5
I doubt it, if only because they could easily just debut him on the next Dynamite, which is already something of a trend to begin with. I think it's either SW3RVE or Josh Alexander. Outside chance of Claudio. …I didn’t even think of Josh Alexander. Adding him to the list. Doesn't he have to sort out a work visa first?
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Post by lildude8218 on Mar 4, 2022 12:15:57 GMT -5
Then Dustin comes out as Seven and Syxx is terrified of him Because Seven ate Nine?
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