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Post by repomark on Mar 19, 2022 5:39:01 GMT -5
I am intrigued by what kind of reaction he gets on his debut - particularly if they save it as a “surprise” mania debut like the Hardys return at WM33.
As much as I find his jump from AEW a huge deal, does the average WWE fan? Could it get an anti climactic reception from a crowd who remember him as mid card fodder from his WWE days (if they remember him at all?)
The mania crowd is generally not your average wwe crowd right enough and will be more likely filled with wrestling fans who watch promotions out with the wwe bubble. But it would be harder to sweeten the reaction in a stadium if it doesn’t get the initial reaction they are expecting.
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Post by mrtuesday on Mar 19, 2022 5:53:48 GMT -5
It will never not be funny that Cody was in a company that gave him compmete creative freedom. Left that company over "creative differences". Only to go to a company that will give him zero creative freedom.
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Post by cornettesracket on Mar 19, 2022 6:00:27 GMT -5
You’d have to think that WWE will book Cody strong initially because while it won’t be a flood of talent going from AEW to WWE like it has been from WWE to AEW, they will want to not make it seem like they’ll get buried if they sign.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Mar 19, 2022 6:03:35 GMT -5
I am intrigued by what kind of reaction he gets on his debut - particularly if they save it as a “surprise” mania debut like the Hardys return at WM33. As much as I find his jump from AEW a huge deal, does the average WWE fan? Could it get an anti climactic reception from a crowd who remember him as mid card fodder from his WWE days (if they remember him at all?) The mania crowd is generally not your average wwe crowd right enough and will be more likely filled with wrestling fans who watch promotions out with the wwe bubble. But it would be harder to sweeten the reaction in a stadium if it doesn’t get the initial reaction they are expecting. Wrestlemania is a big hardcore fan crowd. They'll definitely react to him. I think for that reason it's the perfect spot to debut him.
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Post by cornettesracket on Mar 19, 2022 6:04:08 GMT -5
I am intrigued by what kind of reaction he gets on his debut - particularly if they save it as a “surprise” mania debut like the Hardys return at WM33. As much as I find his jump from AEW a huge deal, does the average WWE fan? Could it get an anti climactic reception from a crowd who remember him as mid card fodder from his WWE days (if they remember him at all?) The mania crowd is generally not your average wwe crowd right enough and will be more likely filled with wrestling fans who watch promotions out with the wwe bubble. But it would be harder to sweeten the reaction in a stadium if it doesn’t get the initial reaction they are expecting. That’s what I’m going to be looking out for also. I think he’s been away from WWE long enough to where the stardust stink is gone and to me there’s a difference between straight up wwe fans who know no other wrestling and those fans who started as wwe fans but are aware there's other wrestling out there.
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Post by repomark on Mar 19, 2022 6:14:00 GMT -5
I am intrigued by what kind of reaction he gets on his debut - particularly if they save it as a “surprise” mania debut like the Hardys return at WM33. As much as I find his jump from AEW a huge deal, does the average WWE fan? Could it get an anti climactic reception from a crowd who remember him as mid card fodder from his WWE days (if they remember him at all?) The mania crowd is generally not your average wwe crowd right enough and will be more likely filled with wrestling fans who watch promotions out with the wwe bubble. But it would be harder to sweeten the reaction in a stadium if it doesn’t get the initial reaction they are expecting. Wrestlemania is a big hardcore fan crowd. They'll definitely react to him. I think for that reason it's the perfect spot to debut him. I think you are probably right (although I don’t think it will be as huge a reaction as they are hoping). But the slight chance that all he gets is a silent crowd thinking “that bloke who used to tag with the Million Dollar Man’s son got a new tattoo” amuses and intrigues me in equal measure.
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Post by eJm on Mar 19, 2022 6:17:35 GMT -5
You’d have to think that WWE will book Cody strong initially because while it won’t be a flood of talent going from AEW to WWE like it has been from WWE to AEW, they will want to not make it seem like they’ll get buried if they sign. I think that’s something a lot of people are forgetting. WWE have a real chance with Cody to basically say how much the grass is greener to AEW talent after years of basically showing they can’t do well with talent they get from other companies. If they screw it up, all they’ll have to say to talent is “We can pay you more” which might work for Cody and some others but won’t work for everyone coming from the environment AEW seems to be like.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Mar 19, 2022 6:21:55 GMT -5
Apparently this is a one year deal, so he's either just testing the waters and making sure he doesn't commit to WWE if he in fact, just hates what they do with him, or he's only planning to be there a year to just try something new because it wasn't working in AEW, and maybe he'll go back later Or the other potential ending, he retires early and calls it a career. I'd think much less likely, I think he's keeping options open, but it's always a possibility I think performers signing one-year deals or one-year extensions (much like Cesaro did last year) with the WWE is going to become more of the norm, especially how they handled releases during the peak of the pandemic and restructured multi-year deals. It only seems right that the power of being a contracted talent swing in favor of the performer. In the case of the aforementioned Cesaro, he signed an extension last year and seen nothing in terms of a sustained push changed for him so he opted to leave. Cesaro didn’t exactly “opt to leave”. He asked for a big raise and WWE countered with approximately zero dollars. He wanted to stay but was given an offer that might as well been a piece of paper saying “We don’t want you to stay”. So he “opted to leave”.
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Post by Nosnorb on Mar 19, 2022 7:29:15 GMT -5
As personally gratifying it would be for me to see Cody just get booked right into the ground cause he sucks and deserves it, WWE do have a track record of treating the prodigal sons pretty well. When they fired Lashley and Drew Galloway they had written them off as failures, but when those guys got out there, showed they could be successful in other places, and eventually came back they adopted them into the upper mid-card/perennial main event scene right away. Remember that before Drew left, he was jobbing to Los Matadores and Curtis Axel, but when he came back they slotted him right into a program with Roman Reigns. I think Cody is gonna do well for himself in WWE. Especially now that Hunter is out of power. WWE did not slot Drew McIntyre straight into a program with Roman Reigns. He spent a large part of his first year back in NXT, and after Wrestlemania 34 he was called up as the heavy to Dolph Ziggler. It wasn't until after SummerSlam that Drew and Roman were in a program, and it was as backup for Strowman facing a Shield Reunion.
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Post by eJm on Mar 19, 2022 7:46:14 GMT -5
As personally gratifying it would be for me to see Cody just get booked right into the ground cause he sucks and deserves it, WWE do have a track record of treating the prodigal sons pretty well. When they fired Lashley and Drew Galloway they had written them off as failures, but when those guys got out there, showed they could be successful in other places, and eventually came back they adopted them into the upper mid-card/perennial main event scene right away. Remember that before Drew left, he was jobbing to Los Matadores and Curtis Axel, but when he came back they slotted him right into a program with Roman Reigns. I think Cody is gonna do well for himself in WWE. Especially now that Hunter is out of power. WWE did not slot Drew McIntyre straight into a program with Roman Reigns. He spent a large part of his first year back in NXT, and after Wrestlemania 34 he was called up as the heavy to Dolph Ziggler. It wasn't until after SummerSlam that Drew and Roman were in a program, and it was as backup for Strowman facing a Shield Reunion. And with Lashley…two words; “Lashley’s Sisters”
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 19, 2022 8:27:06 GMT -5
WWE did not slot Drew McIntyre straight into a program with Roman Reigns. He spent a large part of his first year back in NXT, and after Wrestlemania 34 he was called up as the heavy to Dolph Ziggler. It wasn't until after SummerSlam that Drew and Roman were in a program, and it was as backup for Strowman facing a Shield Reunion. And with Lashley…two words; “Lashley’s Sisters” It’s why I’m surprised we continue to take all of this bad booking so personally on behalf of the talents as though it IS personal. They book EVERYONE bad.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 19, 2022 8:34:25 GMT -5
Might have to check out Mania then I guess. Hope they keep Kingdom, it's honestly his best and most recognizable theme to date. But the real question is, will he have his own special entrance ramp?
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 19, 2022 9:02:28 GMT -5
My doubts about Cody are specifically rooted not so much in a belief that WWE will intentionally misuse him because of an AEW grudge, but more than he'll be like all of Vince's other shiny toys that he gets bored by after six months and by next year's Wrestlemania he's just another guy. People like Lashley and McIntyre have demonstrated an ability to eventually get passed that on sheer talent and look, but the past five years are rife with can't miss talents that stopped mattering because those at the top ceased caring about them.
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Post by khali on Mar 19, 2022 9:21:09 GMT -5
Here’s the thing: I’m sure WWE will try to book him well. They think they’ll be doing a great job. That doesn’t necessarily mean that the booking will be good, because well . . . they suck. They’ll try their best, but it may still be bad.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Mar 19, 2022 9:55:22 GMT -5
I very much doubt it’s a one year deal. The only time I recall them doing such a short-term deal was for Goldberg in 2003-04 and with all due respect to Cody he’s not Goldberg.
It’s not in WWE’s interest to give someone this much hype, a massive debut at Wrestlemania and put them over one of their top stars if he can leave less than a year later and take that momentum elsewhere. And Cody doesn’t need to use Scott Steiner mathematics to realize his chances of getting a world title run and such drastic go down if he’s only committed to one year. I’d be shocked if it’s anything less than 3 years.
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Post by schma on Mar 19, 2022 10:01:21 GMT -5
I think his reception will come down partly to how he is presented. There's a lot WWE can do to tell everyone 'this is a star' without telling us 'this is a star' (though I'm sure Cole will remind us incessantly anyways). If debuts at Mania with an elaborate entrance, that says a lot. He might not get a HHH entrance but there's still a lot they can do with that entrance. He can then cut a quick promo about why he's back and then call out Mr Open Challenge Seth Rollins and put on a banger match. Do that right and people know from the start that Cody is being taken seriously and is a star.
Whether he gets the crowd instantly hot like when they saw AJ Sytle's titantron at Royal Rumble? I don't know. In front of a 'Mania crowd, it's possible.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 19, 2022 10:55:34 GMT -5
I very much doubt it’s a one year deal. The only time I recall them doing such a short-term deal was for Goldberg in 2003-04 and with all due respect to Cody he’s not Goldberg. It’s not in WWE’s interest to give someone this much hype, a massive debut at Wrestlemania and put them over one of their top stars if he can leave less than a year later and take that momentum elsewhere. And Cody doesn’t need to use Scott Steiner mathematics to realize his chances of getting a world title run and such drastic go down if he’s only committed to one year. I’d be shocked if it’s anything less than 3 years. Yeah, I would be shocked if it were only a 1 year deal. I assume WWE wanted a 5 year commitment but ended up settling for 3
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2022 10:59:00 GMT -5
I very much doubt it’s a one year deal. The only time I recall them doing such a short-term deal was for Goldberg in 2003-04 and with all due respect to Cody he’s not Goldberg. It’s not in WWE’s interest to give someone this much hype, a massive debut at Wrestlemania and put them over one of their top stars if he can leave less than a year later and take that momentum elsewhere. And Cody doesn’t need to use Scott Steiner mathematics to realize his chances of getting a world title run and such drastic go down if he’s only committed to one year. I’d be shocked if it’s anything less than 3 years. Yeah as stated in the other thread that was a rumor that was inadvertently pushed here...No one with merit has reported a one year deal more just speculation to justify what is going on
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 19, 2022 11:02:41 GMT -5
Honestly, just glancing at the roster rn, between injuries and fumbling, there’s no reason Cody couldn’t be the…#3 guy on the regular crew? Behind Roman and I guess Drew. But compare that to Jacksonville, with a constant influx of talent, his position’s a lot more up in the air.
I think Cody did the math and decided to make a leap. Could backfire but I honestly think he’s got a good chance of at least some premium event world title matches while making good with the place that owns damn near all of his family’s career. I don’t blame him. Business is a business
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Post by eJm on Mar 19, 2022 11:18:04 GMT -5
Honestly, just glancing at the roster rn, between injuries and fumbling, there’s no reason Cody couldn’t be the…#3 guy on the regular crew? Behind Roman and I guess Drew. But compare that to Jacksonville, with a constant influx of talent, his position’s a lot more up in the air. I think Cody did the math and decided to make a leap. Could backfire but I honestly think he’s got a good chance of at least some premium event world title matches while making good with the place that owns damn near all of his family’s career. I don’t blame him. Business is a business Yeah, like, the thing he also has over very few people is that he’s a crossover star. He just finished a run as a judge on a TV talent show, something people like Miz have done, and also helped found a rival company which they probably want to take advantage of the fact they did. It’s another reason why I think WWE can’t afford to WWE this since anyone who might sign would easily go “I saw you just basically botch an easy home run with Cody, likely the biggest you had in decades, how much of a shot do I have?” and just use them to get a pay rise from Tony.
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