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Post by oxbaker on May 9, 2022 22:31:09 GMT -5
Orlando has mean streets too, but Disney Combat Club wouldn’t strike fear in the hearts of many. Yet "Orlando Combat Club" isn't a real bad name either. If you wanna cherry pick what's in a place to make it "Not scary" then Chicago has plenty of tourist spots... doesn't exactly take away from the stuff that can and does happen there. Same with plenty of other places. It just seems like a reach to be upset a Combat Club is billed from a place because the place can have nice places, we have people who live near there giving live recounts and experiences as to how shitty Blackpool can be as a place, that really should be enough right? Even then... Blackpool as a name is for Regal who is the base of the operations, just feel like it's fine? Inoffensive? And even to some, fitting as hell. Nobody’s upset, but the name itself being after a resort town has a bit of a Mean Street Posse tone to it — I’m sure Greenwich, Connecticut, has its dark side too, lol.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 9, 2022 23:54:03 GMT -5
Yet "Orlando Combat Club" isn't a real bad name either. If you wanna cherry pick what's in a place to make it "Not scary" then Chicago has plenty of tourist spots... doesn't exactly take away from the stuff that can and does happen there. Same with plenty of other places. It just seems like a reach to be upset a Combat Club is billed from a place because the place can have nice places, we have people who live near there giving live recounts and experiences as to how shitty Blackpool can be as a place, that really should be enough right? Even then... Blackpool as a name is for Regal who is the base of the operations, just feel like it's fine? Inoffensive? And even to some, fitting as hell. Nobody’s upset, but the name itself being after a resort town has a bit of a Mean Street Posse tone to it — I’m sure Greenwich, Connecticut, has its dark side too, lol. Alright, just to take this a step further, I'm gonna google Greenwich crime rate, and Blackpool crime rate. Greenwich: "Your chance of becoming a victim in Greenwich is one in 114 based on the total crime rate (violent and property crimes, combined). In America overall, your chance of becoming a victim of crime is 1 in 43. It is for these reasons that Greenwich is ranked as one of the top 100 safest cities in the U.S.A." Blackpool: "Blackpool is the most dangerous major town in Lancashire, and is the second most dangerous overall out of Lancashire's 237 towns, villages, and cities. The overall crime rate in Blackpool in 2021 was 146 crimes per 1,000 people." "During the last 12 months, a total of 6,133 crimes were committed in that neighbourhood. When this figure was compared to the population, it worked out as 875 crimes for every 1,000 people who live there. This meant the area had the third-highest rate across all of England and Wales, and the highest outside of London." It's not a Mean Street Posse tone, and Mean Street Posse blatantly played up how safe and preppy Greenwich is as part of their gimmick and joke. Again we have multiple people from the UK and who know about Blackpool commenting about how shitty Blackpool can actively be, and google actively backs it up, don't know what much else to say lol.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on May 10, 2022 2:50:23 GMT -5
Quoting crime statistics is pointless, because Blackpool could have the crime rate of Detroit in RoboCop, and it would still sound silly as a badass wrestling stable to a lot of British people. This is because it's not about the reality of Blackpool, it's about the perception and shared experience of Blackpool.
I have no idea how popular Blackpool is nowadays, but I went there multiple times as a kid, at least once a year for about a decade. The memories of the place are pretty indelible, and they are decidedly not badass. If I concentrate hard I can remember how it smelled (sea salt, with hints of greasy food, shit and beer puke) I'm guessing for a lot of British people it's the same.
So I'll continue to make jokes about donkeys, rock, kiss me quick hats, being ripped off on the pleasure beach etc.
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Post by lavelleuk22 on May 10, 2022 4:08:35 GMT -5
As an Englishman I have to say I agree with the people who think it's a funny name for an intimidating group
It doesn't bother me, but yeah Blackpool isn't a place considered tough, hell the signs into the town used to have cartoons on them advertising nickelodeon land or something
Tbh like a lot of things it won't translate to why it's funny, and I think most brits would find any place they could be named after amusing. I'm from a place that has issues with knife crime, and next to a city that used to have the largest ratio of gun violence to population and has many issues with gangs.
Yet if I asked any English guy here if "nottingham combat club" made them think of tough gangs and street crime I can guarantee a lot would say no, that it just made them think of hooters or Robin Hood men in tights lol
We're British, we will poop on anything and anywhere, it's what we do best lol
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 10, 2022 4:11:22 GMT -5
On the subject of the name I think it's dumb but it's not due to the Blackpool thing, it's just really clumsy and wordy, and kind of in general just kind of tryhard. That association doesn't really help but you could tell me someone was calling their bowling team the Blackpool Combat Club and I'd find it no more nor less goofy.
Though really I think I'm just exhausted with how everybody has to have a stable. They stop feeling like they mean anything when you have like 20 of the damn things running around, most of them with no clear goal or direction and many of them only really existing to get stomped. And I know it's a very NJPW way of doing it, doesn't make it good.
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on May 10, 2022 4:25:35 GMT -5
My memories of Blackpool are a terrible beach experience when I was young as my brother got glass in his foot which was buried in the sand and we had our suntan lotion stolen. As an adult I’ve been twice and both times were terrible due to the weather, the loutishness of a lot of the people, and a huge fight outside of Madame Tussauds wax museum. There were also some scary looking women trying to get with me and my friends and they wouldn’t take no for an answer *shudder*
As for BCC, I forget whether I’ve already mentioned it in this thread but they need to unite and try to take all of the titles in AEW. Not like an NWO style domination but just a lot of bloody fights so they can make Daddy Regal proud. I’d have Mox go for the World, Yuta & AmDrag as Tag and AmDrag as TNT.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 10, 2022 7:23:01 GMT -5
As an Englishman I have to say I agree with the people who think it's a funny name for an intimidating group It doesn't bother me, but yeah Blackpool isn't a place considered tough, hell the signs into the town used to have cartoons on them advertising nickelodeon land or something Tbh like a lot of things it won't translate to why it's funny, and I think most brits would find any place they could be named after amusing. I'm from a place that has issues with knife crime, and next to a city that used to have the largest ratio of gun violence to population and has many issues with gangs. Yet if I asked any English guy here if "nottingham combat club" made them think of tough gangs and street crime I can guarantee a lot would say no, that it just made them think of hooters or Robin Hood men in tights lol We're British, we will poop on anything and anywhere, it's what we do best lol How dare you accurately describe my hometown's national reputation
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Post by The Ichi on May 10, 2022 11:07:53 GMT -5
I just want them to have their own Blackpool Illuminations during their entrance.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on May 10, 2022 12:09:12 GMT -5
As an Englishman I have to say I agree with the people who think it's a funny name for an intimidating group It doesn't bother me, but yeah Blackpool isn't a place considered tough, hell the signs into the town used to have cartoons on them advertising nickelodeon land or something Tbh like a lot of things it won't translate to why it's funny, and I think most brits would find any place they could be named after amusing. I'm from a place that has issues with knife crime, and next to a city that used to have the largest ratio of gun violence to population and has many issues with gangs. Yet if I asked any English guy here if "nottingham combat club" made them think of tough gangs and street crime I can guarantee a lot would say no, that it just made them think of hooters or Robin Hood men in tights lol We're British, we will poop on anything and anywhere, it's what we do best lol As someone who used to spend a lot of time in & around Blackpool, I gotta agree, but I think it's true of literally anywhere in the UK as you say. In the UK the best you can manage is Nottingham or Newcastle and it'd still sound hilarious, for Scotland, Glasgow is probably the roughest city I can think of that would get the tag but it would still struggle, and anything more granular like Huyton, Mossside, Croydon, Peckham, Tottenham etc. just sounds too local to be intimidating. It's like calling yourself Barrow-In-Furness's Greatest Tag Team or Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch's Finest (although idiot that I am I'd mark for this). The UK is not really somewhere suited to intimidating hometown names. We have Cockfosters in our capital ffs. I'm not 10/10 sold on BCC, but I mark for literally anything William Regal does so I'll watch them, I don't get the Wheeler Yuta buzz personally and wasn't much of a fan of the Moxley match, but he's evidently catching on with people so it's working at elevating him. I'd rather Bryan was in the solo title picture (even if that might feel a bit TNA, he was a BIG acquisition and has really been settled into an undersized role, even if it's what he wants), but he has good chemistry with Moxley and Regal. Moxley has been a tough one for me ever since he won the title, something's felt off with him for me since (after really enjoying his introductory feud with Omega). But I think it's probably a good fit for him right now, and lets Eddie Kingston get a chance at some solo shine (which he really deserves). Overall, yeah it's not perfect but it gets William Regal and his Merry Men on TV so I'm happy. Thinking about it, maybe they should be Nottingham Combat Club.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 10, 2022 14:22:38 GMT -5
The is Blackpool Compton or Palm Springs discussion got me dying lmao
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Post by Fade on May 10, 2022 14:25:12 GMT -5
The is Blackpool Compton or Palm Springs discussion got me dying lmao ay Palm Springs ain’t nuthin to laugh at homey
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Post by Peeetah on May 10, 2022 14:38:04 GMT -5
I mean Coney Island has to be the closest equivelancy.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on May 10, 2022 14:46:29 GMT -5
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on May 10, 2022 15:15:07 GMT -5
Mere fact Regal is from Blackpool is enough to lend legitimacy to the name for me.
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Post by oxbaker on May 10, 2022 15:28:58 GMT -5
Mere fact Regal is from Blackpool is enough to lend legitimacy to the name for me. He was born and grew up in Codsall, which is more a suburb of Birmingham and about 2 hours drive from Blackpool. Blackpool Pleasure Beach is where he started wrestling.
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Post by Nosnorb on May 10, 2022 15:57:47 GMT -5
Blackpool is pretty rough away from the tourist attractions, with places that are some of the most deprived in the entire North of England and the population of the town has been declining for decades. Between that and it being the home of Regal during his formative years, the name is legit.
Orlando has mean streets too, but Disney Combat Club wouldn’t strike fear in the hearts of many. It's the Blackpool Combat Club, not the Pleasure Beach Combat Club or the Sandcastle Water Park Combat Club.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on May 10, 2022 16:57:40 GMT -5
Mere fact Regal is from Blackpool is enough to lend legitimacy to the name for me. He was born and grew up in Codsall, which is more a suburb of Birmingham and about 2 hours drive from Blackpool. Blackpool Pleasure Beach is where he started wrestling. Hey, we don't accept logic and facts here on FAN! Keep the kayfabe .....but seriously totally didn't know that so touche'
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Post by DSR on May 10, 2022 17:01:34 GMT -5
I mean Coney Island has to be the closest equivelancy. Waaarriors, come out and play-ee-yay!
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Post by oxbaker on May 10, 2022 17:03:58 GMT -5
I mean Coney Island has to be the closest equivelancy. More like Carny Island amIrite!!??!! Seriously, that’s a good comparison. Buncha thugs beating up kids at the Nathan’s Famous hot dog stand, lol. I was thinking Myrtle Beach, which is similar, but the first comparison I thought of for Blackpool was the Catskills in New York back in the day. There was a time when that was a summer getaway place for New Yorkers in particular. There were resorts and a lot of entertainment acts — it launched several comedians, in particular, which I’m pretty sure Blackpool was known for doing in the UK. In the case of the Catskills, there was an actual combat sports connection — out of season, the resorts there were used as training camps for boxers. They’d set up camp at one of the resorts and oftentimes both fighters in a big fight that was going to take place in Madison Square Garden or Yankee Stadium or the Polo Grounds or whatever would have their camps at separate resorts ongoing at the same time. The promoters would shuttle sports writers up to the Catskills to get stories and photographers to get shots of guys in camp. They’d go visit with one fighter, have lunch and go across to another resort to talk to his opponent. Also, Mike Tyson was trained and molded at Cus D’Amato’s gym in the Catskills. I don’t think Blackpool has a real equivalent.
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Post by oxbaker on May 10, 2022 17:06:10 GMT -5
I mean Coney Island has to be the closest equivelancy. Waaarriors, come out and play-ee-yay!Haha, back in the day Marquette had really good basketball teams. And their nickname/mascot before changing it was the Warriors. A friend of mine who graduated from there told me the story of some player from a rival team who came out for early warm-ups and was shooting around at the basket in front of the student section. He then turned around and yelled out, ‘Waaaarriors, come out and play-ayy.’ He said the students couldn’t even razz the guy, just had to laugh.
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