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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 17, 2022 10:20:40 GMT -5
.... get his ass kicked alot and at some point Paul Wight would show up and save him. Why didn't he get a little of his ass kicked to lure him into a sense of security and have him come out alot sooner? Or did he need Stone Cold to get really tired kicking his ass?
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Post by Nosnorb on May 17, 2022 10:29:42 GMT -5
Vince had to wait until Big Show turned heel and stayed heel for a sustained period of time.
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Post by thecrusherwi on May 17, 2022 14:58:01 GMT -5
Yeah that is an odd plan. Why didn't Paul Wight come out immediately, restrain Austin, and let Vince escape? It would've taken 30 seconds.
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on May 17, 2022 15:09:35 GMT -5
Vince had to wait until Big Show turned heel and stayed heel for a sustained period of time. some say vince is still waiting |
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Post by tirtefaa on May 17, 2022 17:35:23 GMT -5
This happened a LOT when it came to run ins. I mean why wait 20 minutes before interfering to get the DQ? I guess you can argue they wanted to wait until the person they were jumping was tired, but what would happen if they won or lost their match before you had a chance to do your run in?
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Post by PrimeTyme on May 17, 2022 18:23:26 GMT -5
You know, I hadn’t really thought about it in great detail until now, but that really is a ridiculously stupid idea.
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Post by dav on May 17, 2022 18:44:34 GMT -5
Two possibilities:
Vince wanted to take on Austin in a fit of ego and not wanting to look 'weak' in a straight up match, with Big Show being the back up plan.
Big show nodded off during the PPV and didn't wake up until about twenty minutes after he was supposed to interfere.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 17, 2022 18:47:50 GMT -5
This old trope makes sense normally because the heel might think they can pull it off on their own and only wants help as a last resort. And perhaps Vince the character might have thought that but a) that's a stretch given how often Austin had kicked his ass by that point and b) he clearly was done a long time before Paul came in. If he wanted to give Vince a chance first, he had it already.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 17, 2022 18:55:43 GMT -5
This happened a LOT when it came to run ins. I mean why wait 20 minutes before interfering to get the DQ? I guess you can argue they wanted to wait until the person they were jumping was tired, but what would happen if they won or lost their match before you had a chance to do your run in? WCW of all places got it right once. Rick Steiner wants to face Scott Steiner. Buff Bagwell somehow convinces him "hey, let's make it a tag match, nWo cheat all the time, I'll be your backup." The obvious happened, but the brilliant part of it was that Buff immediately turns on him the second it's his turn to tag in, rather than wasting time, hitting him and leaving. So far, so good, but it's WCW, so of course they couldn't leave it at that. Rick won the tag match (which I guess means, so did Buff) after Buff came back for some reason dressed as Bill Clinton. Rick suplexes the shit out of everybody, winning the tag match and getting a match with Scott immediately. Rick wins that, too, getting beat up first. So, I guess Rick Steiner of all people got lasting revenge on nWo, since I can't immediately recall if they ever ran it back, or if they just had Rick move on. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 17, 2022 21:26:30 GMT -5
I want to see the timeline where they booked it to just immediately have Big Show burst out of the ring, hold Austin in the corner, and make way for Vince to just casually stroll out, then the commentators just go, "Um, I guess Big Bossman is going to WrestleMania then?"
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Post by fg on May 17, 2022 21:33:23 GMT -5
Hey, at least it was the HEEL that looked dumb and not the face. How refreshing.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on May 18, 2022 6:56:27 GMT -5
This happened a LOT when it came to run ins. I mean why wait 20 minutes before interfering to get the DQ? I guess you can argue they wanted to wait until the person they were jumping was tired, but what would happen if they won or lost their match before you had a chance to do your run in? Rick won the tag match (which I guess means, so did Buff) after Buff came back for some reason dressed as Bill Clinton. Rick suplexes the shit out of everybody, winning the tag match and getting a match with Scott immediately. Rick wins that, too, getting beat up first. So, I guess Rick Steiner of all people got lasting revenge on nWo, since I can't immediately recall if they ever ran it back, or if they just had Rick move on. That is brilliant:) More wrestlers should come back into a match dressed as Bill Clinton. Imagine if Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar did this at the Rumble and the three way with Samoa Joe and Braun respectively where they were wheeled out for a portion of the match. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 18, 2022 7:13:50 GMT -5
I think it was an elaborate rib to keep the 7 foot tall guy in a tiny space under the ring
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Post by msc on May 18, 2022 7:36:16 GMT -5
I want to see the timeline where they booked it to just immediately have Big Show burst out of the ring, hold Austin in the corner, and make way for Vince to just casually stroll out, then the commentators just go, "Um, I guess Big Bossman is going to WrestleMania then?" This leads me to another thought- was Bossman barred from ringside? Otherwise, he's remarkably chill about this match he could benefit huge from. |
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Post by thecrusherwi on May 18, 2022 8:16:35 GMT -5
This old trope makes sense normally because the heel might think they can pull it off on their own and only wants help as a last resort. And perhaps Vince the character might have thought that but a) that's a stretch given how often Austin had kicked his ass by that point and b) he clearly was done a long time before Paul came in. If he wanted to give Vince a chance first, he had it already. Though in this case, you could argue that Vince was willing to take somewhat of a beating to give the fans their money's worth. Even in kayfabe, Mr. McMahon always justified not firing Austin, because he makes him a lot of money. He knew there was no money in a 30 second fraud of a match. He knew he had to face Austin for a while, and his ego convinced himself that he could maybe hold his own until Big Show interfered. |
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on May 18, 2022 10:38:17 GMT -5
I've always seen it is the heel's ego getting out of control and believing they can take the babyface.
But just in case.....
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Post by thegame415 on May 20, 2022 9:54:56 GMT -5
Non-Kayfabe: Austin beating the crap out of Vince was why people bought the show.
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on May 20, 2022 12:09:24 GMT -5
Vince had to wait until Big Show turned heel and stayed heel for a sustained period of time. I’ve got an image in my head of Show sitting under the ring frequently going from grinning like an idiot and frowning menacingly like a split personality is shown on TV and it’s making me laugh. Especially when you add in how glorious his hair looked when he popped out from under the ring. |
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