Double J exposed

[tafkaga]

Jeff Jarrett showed up in WCW in October of '96, just a week or two after WWF decided to "expose" him as having lip synched With My Baby Tonight, and simultaneously give Road Dogg the rub at Jarrett's expense.  Do we know if this was the planned outcome for the Jarrett/Roadie pairing all along, and they just rushed it after they found out Jarrett was going to WCW?  Or was the intention to somehow sabotage Jarrett's "credibility" prior to his Nitro debut? 

The idea that they would use this approach to sabotage Jarrett strikes me as odd, because it seems to me that it could have just given Jarrett more heat with fans, unless they thought WCW might try to continue pushing him as a legit singer.  Makes me wonder though if the WWF's expose on Jarrett might have influenced them to make any last minute changes to their plans for him. 

Given that Jarrett continued with his Double J look and the whole country music vibe, it's weird to me that WCW used him the way they did, like bringing Wayne Ferris in as Honky Tonk Man to give a babyface promo, when fans are already programmed to boo him while he brags about being the world's greatest entertainer.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

I think he explained it on his own podcast and the recent Broken Skull Sessions

I remember reading something about how he didn't like them breaking up him and Road Dogg. He did say on Broken Skull Sessions his contract was ending and was frustrated creatively. I think WWE didn't have plans to do the expose part until he left

Jeff said he wanted to do more music videos and have them release an album

[tirtefaa]

Kind of funny that the most memorable thing to happen with Jarrett in his first WCW run was that Debra eventually followed him to WWF.

[cjh]

I'm not sure if they were going to reveal that Roadie was the real singer, but the plan, had they not walked out in July 1995, was for them to have a match at SummerSlam.

[Aceorton]

Weren't they already insinuating after he did "With My Baby Tonight" at IYH2 in 1995 that it wasn't really him singing?

The fact that it actually *was* Roadie doing the vocals suggests the plan that summer was for Jarrett to be exposed as a fraud (and then presumably feud with Roadie). But then both guys left and weren't both in the company at the same time again until 1998.

[Mozenrath]

I think the payoff was probably going to eventually be Jarrett exposed, just since that's the natural payoff to this kind of an angle, but I can buy that his frustration and knowing he was on his way out probably hurried it along.

[tirtefaa]

Jun 4, 2022 20:03:53 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

He did say on Broken Skull Sessions his contract was ending and was frustrated creatively.

I definitely understand where Jeff is coming from, but Jeff never really lived up to the expectations that even he may have had for himself. When he returned to WWF, he was given an opportunity to cut a worked shoot promo, which did him zero favors. When he was given the chance later in WCW, he was a middle of the road main eventer who didn't feel on the same level as any other past champion with obvious the exception being Russo and Arquette. Then when he was in TNA, it exposed the absolute worst attributes and proved he wasn't capable of being "the guy" despite having the show centered around him for years. Like, this was when TNA was good...and he was usually the worst part of the show. I can only imagine how much better the show could have been in those early years if his role was substantially reduced.

And no disrespect to Jarrett, I always thought he was a really good upper midcard guy who could occasionally appear in the main event. But if you're frustrated with how you're booked, and then you're later given an opportunity to break through, you really need to bring everything you have. And maybe Jeff did, but maybe it just wasn't enough.

[Rumble McSkirmish]

Double J Exposed?

Well geez put on some pants then slapnuts.

[polarbearpete]

I’m pretty sure that was the plan all along, but it would have happened sooner if they didn’t walk out after a PPV in 95.

[SAJ Forth]

I think Vince actually may have seen a certain lip-synch scandal from a few before.

[Hypnosis]

Jun 5, 2022 6:06:24 GMT -5 Rumble McSkirmish said:

Double J Exposed?

Well geez put on some pants then slapnuts.

[Mozenrath]

Jun 5, 2022 11:16:20 GMT -5 SAJ Forth said:

I think Vince actually may have seen a certain lip-synch scandal from a few before.

Yeah, good point, Milli Vanilli had only been a few years prior. All the more reason that had to have been the payoff eventually. It's just too obvious a booking direction to humiliate the heel with.

[jason1980s]

Since Jeff's new position with WWE was announced recently, I wonder if Vince had a certain "respect" for Jeff since Jeff stuck it to Vince not once, not twice but THREE times leaving right as Vince had plans for a new storyline or while other storylines were going on. Like in Vince's wacked out mind, he "respects" someone like Jeff who doesn't give a crap about Vince and leaves him high and dry. Me personally, I wouldn't hire a guy back after leaving once let alone twice.
But then again, I thought the "Real Double J" would be a main eventer when he came back in 1996. Then he became a gimmick jobber for a year. But I guess I was somewhat right, I think he main evented the Raw after Wrestlemania 14.

[hentery]

Jun 4, 2022 19:23:08 GMT -5 tafkaga said:

Jeff Jarrett showed up in WCW in October of '96, just a week or two after WWF decided to "expose" him as having lip synched With My Baby Tonight, and simultaneously give Road Dogg the rub at Jarrett's expense.  Do we know if this was the planned outcome for the Jarrett/Roadie pairing all along, and they just rushed it after they found out Jarrett was going to WCW?  Or was the intention to somehow sabotage Jarrett's "credibility" prior to his Nitro debut? 

The idea that they would use this approach to sabotage Jarrett strikes me as odd, because it seems to me that it could have just given Jarrett more heat with fans, unless they thought WCW might try to continue pushing him as a legit singer.  Makes me wonder though if the WWF's expose on Jarrett might have influenced them to make any last minute changes to their plans for him. 

Given that Jarrett continued with his Double J look and the whole country music vibe, it's weird to me that WCW used him the way they did, like bringing Wayne Ferris in as Honky Tonk Man to give a babyface promo, when fans are already programmed to boo him while he brags about being the world's greatest entertainer.

Jarrett has a whole podcast episode devoted to this. If you can stomach the host all your questions are answered.

[Squirrel Master]

I was just thinking how great a Jarrett-Roadie vs. The Rockers street fight would have been, for the nostalgia of seeing Michaels and Jannetty kicking ass again.

[Milkman Norm]

Jun 5, 2022 14:41:47 GMT -5 hentery said:

Jun 4, 2022 19:23:08 GMT -5 tafkaga said:

Jeff Jarrett showed up in WCW in October of '96, just a week or two after WWF decided to "expose" him as having lip synched With My Baby Tonight, and simultaneously give Road Dogg the rub at Jarrett's expense.  Do we know if this was the planned outcome for the Jarrett/Roadie pairing all along, and they just rushed it after they found out Jarrett was going to WCW?  Or was the intention to somehow sabotage Jarrett's "credibility" prior to his Nitro debut? 

The idea that they would use this approach to sabotage Jarrett strikes me as odd, because it seems to me that it could have just given Jarrett more heat with fans, unless they thought WCW might try to continue pushing him as a legit singer.  Makes me wonder though if the WWF's expose on Jarrett might have influenced them to make any last minute changes to their plans for him. 

Given that Jarrett continued with his Double J look and the whole country music vibe, it's weird to me that WCW used him the way they did, like bringing Wayne Ferris in as Honky Tonk Man to give a babyface promo, when fans are already programmed to boo him while he brags about being the world's greatest entertainer.

Jarrett has a whole podcast episode devoted to this. If you can stomach the host all your questions are answered.

Could I also get a mortgage?

[hentery]

Jun 6, 2022 8:17:38 GMT -5 Milkman Norm said:

Jun 5, 2022 14:41:47 GMT -5 hentery said:

Jarrett has a whole podcast episode devoted to this. If you can stomach the host all your questions are answered.

Could I also get a mortgage?

And generic viagra!

Was listening to an OLD buddy rogers interview circa 70’s-80’s where he had a segment pushing male enhancement pills. Was kinda mind blowing to see how long this grift/ad scheme has been around and how it’s evolved.

[thehottag]

Didn't Jarrett do a video in TNA where he said the reason he had to stop doing the gimmick was because people backstage were jealous that he was overshadowing Stone Cold?

Or did I dream that?