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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 7, 2022 20:48:39 GMT -5
After their feud with Team Xtreme and the Dudleyz. Christian disappears a bit, because he's trying to find out how to be "extreme" himself. Goes down there for a show or two challenges for the ECW title but fails. He returns and tells Edge he knows how to beat the Hardyz and Dudleyz at their own game now. A small quick bit of character development for Christian. Honestly Vince should've sent more guys down there for a small stint, since the roster was bloated due to the Radicalz showing up. Kai En Tai - Cyrus brings them in to get revenge on Tajiri for defying The Network D'Lo Brown - could've been a filler challenger for the World Title in between PPVs Tiger Ali Singh - comes in as a member of the New Dangerous Alliance Essa Rios - could work with Super Crazy, Little Guido, Kid Kash, Mikey Whipwreck, etc. Ivory - give her a run with the Network before she joins Right to Censor, so can fine-tune the character Excellent choices. These are small things that could give these character new lives in 2000. ECW had a small roster by this time, so WWF guys staying there a bit. Both companies would benefit.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jun 7, 2022 22:31:29 GMT -5
They almost had something with Corino but they gave the belt to him in such a stupid convoluted match that made nobody look good, and they kept him with Victory. If they'd have kept the belt off Jerry Lynn in the first place and just had a face by default Corino minus Victory dominate Credible, remind everyone he's still an irritant and have him crushed by a face Sandman who for whatever reason was in the best shape of his career by the end of the year, or Lynn since they had that amazing match at Heatwave, and insert Rhino and you've got something alright IMO. Keep everyone else doing other stuff for other belts or motives.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 8, 2022 4:45:59 GMT -5
After their feud with Team Xtreme and the Dudleyz. Christian disappears a bit, because he's trying to find out how to be "extreme" himself. Goes down there for a show or two challenges for the ECW title but fails. He returns and tells Edge he knows how to beat the Hardyz and Dudleyz at their own game now. A small quick bit of character development for Christian. Honestly Vince should've sent more guys down there for a small stint, since the roster was bloated due to the Radicalz showing up. Kai En Tai - Cyrus brings them in to get revenge on Tajiri for defying The Network D'Lo Brown - could've been a filler challenger for the World Title in between PPVs Tiger Ali Singh - comes in as a member of the New Dangerous Alliance Essa Rios - could work with Super Crazy, Little Guido, Kid Kash, Mikey Whipwreck, etc. Ivory - give her a run with the Network before she joins Right to Censor, so can fine-tune the character I am with you on everything except the idea of choosing to book Singh anywhere at all to do anything
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Post by Renslayer on Jun 8, 2022 9:55:56 GMT -5
After their feud with Team Xtreme and the Dudleyz. Christian disappears a bit, because he's trying to find out how to be "extreme" himself. Goes down there for a show or two challenges for the ECW title but fails. He returns and tells Edge he knows how to beat the Hardyz and Dudleyz at their own game now. A small quick bit of character development for Christian. Honestly Vince should've sent more guys down there for a small stint, since the roster was bloated due to the Radicalz showing up. Kai En Tai - Cyrus brings them in to get revenge on Tajiri for defying The Network D'Lo Brown - could've been a filler challenger for the World Title in between PPVs Tiger Ali Singh - comes in as a member of the New Dangerous Alliance Essa Rios - could work with Super Crazy, Little Guido, Kid Kash, Mikey Whipwreck, etc. Ivory - give her a run with the Network before she joins Right to Censor, so can fine-tune the character Yo this would've been 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Jun 8, 2022 12:41:55 GMT -5
Kai En Tai - Cyrus brings them in to get revenge on Tajiri for defying The Network D'Lo Brown - could've been a filler challenger for the World Title in between PPVs Tiger Ali Singh - comes in as a member of the New Dangerous Alliance Essa Rios - could work with Super Crazy, Little Guido, Kid Kash, Mikey Whipwreck, etc. Ivory - give her a run with the Network before she joins Right to Censor, so can fine-tune the character I am with you on everything except the idea of choosing to book Singh anywhere at all to do anything It could have worked, as long as Singh was getting his ass kicked all the time.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Jun 8, 2022 14:04:05 GMT -5
I am with you on everything except the idea of choosing to book Singh anywhere at all to do anything It could have worked, as long as Singh was getting his ass kicked all the time. I mean, by putting him in the NDA, it kinda went without saying lol
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 8, 2022 22:27:56 GMT -5
You know what. Hear me out. He was getting pretty over by mid 2000 feuding with Shane....
ECW Champion Steve Blackman.
He would get over big in ECW feuding with Sandman over Kendo Sticks and being an absolute killing machine down there.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jun 8, 2022 22:48:23 GMT -5
Michinoku Pro guys and Mr Aguila are fine, i'm saying no on Ivory, Blackman and the others, nobody needs em, subway home, maybe Blackman as Chilly Willy's tag partner for a brawl
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jun 9, 2022 7:11:35 GMT -5
They almost had something with Corino but they gave the belt to him in such a stupid convoluted match that made nobody look good, and they kept him with Victory. If they'd have kept the belt off Jerry Lynn in the first place and just had a face by default Corino minus Victory dominate Credible, remind everyone he's still an irritant and have him crushed by a face Sandman who for whatever reason was in the best shape of his career by the end of the year, or Lynn since they had that amazing match at Heatwave, and insert Rhino and you've got something alright IMO. Keep everyone else doing other stuff for other belts or motives. That Heatwave match was brilliant, for sure. Easily the best on that show. A simple title picture structured around those two would have been great. Then as you said, bring Rhino in somewhere.
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Post by msc on Jun 9, 2022 7:27:15 GMT -5
The Awesome situation put them in a hole, as did RVD's injury, but I've never known a question Justin Credible is the answer to. Even in the Impact Players he was clearly the lesser talent. Hell he was the Marty Jannetty when teaming with Marty Jannetty!
People on the roster who would have made a better ECW Champ
Balls Mahoney (popular, wasn't going anywhere else, lots of heels to bash in the head with chairs) Jerry Lynn (needed built up a bit more, but he had the series with RVD to play on at least) Tajiri (babyface underdog, have him win a few suprise defences before getting killed by Rhyno) Raven (was leaving soon, but could have held the belt briefly before getting killed by Rhyno) Sandman (was going to get killed by Rhyno anyway, so do it for the belt) Rhino (all roads go to the big guy. He was their most over heel, he main evented most of the summer, just put the damn belt on him.)
The biggest moment left for ECW was the night Kid Kash beat Rhyno for the TV title, when everyone of Rhyno's victims from the past year came back to haunt him at once. That was great. It was also the final chapter.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jun 9, 2022 10:48:58 GMT -5
While we're on the subject, Rhino is another guy who would've been gone in a year or so to either WWF or WCW.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jun 9, 2022 12:11:59 GMT -5
While we're on the subject, Rhino is another guy who would've been gone in a year or so to either WWF or WCW. I think you're right. Had ECW stayed around I reckon he'd have ended up in WWF only a little later than he actually did.
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Post by nickcave on Jun 9, 2022 16:26:13 GMT -5
Yeah Rhino was friends with Edge and Christian and would have probably got an in because of them at some point
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Post by wrestlingrecap on Jun 9, 2022 16:28:19 GMT -5
I'm currently reviewing ECW 2000 and I have a few thoughts on stuff that has been brought up here.
Justin Credible isn't a horrible option, but it may have been a year or so too late. His feud with Dreamer in 98 was really good and he had some decent heel heat attached to him. His in-ring wasn't horrible and he was able to work fairly well with guys like Lynn and Dreamer. His major setback was his promos and his inability to not say his stupid catchphrase every time. By the fall of 2000, his reign was absolutely being put on the back burner.
Rhino had blind loyalty to Paul and ECW. He would have been there until the company folded. His interviews in the past have made that pretty clear.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Jun 9, 2022 18:46:38 GMT -5
I do have a theory for them waiting so long to pull the trigger on Rhino:
So, based on what was happening on ECW TV at the time, they were building towards RVD vs. Awesome at Living Dangerously, where RVD (potentially) was going to win the title. I say potentially, because Heyman had shown in the past that he was willing to play the long game when it came to the chase. Here's what people forget, though. RVD was also defending the TV Title in a series of matches against Rhino at the time. So what that says to me is that the plan was to have Rhino take the TV Title somewhere in the middle of the RVD/Awesome program and groom him next. So they still went through the steps of getting the belt onto Rhino, before the Awesome stuff went down. Once Heyman realized he needed a new Champion, he was already locked in to Rhino as TV Champion. Which could be why they went with Credible.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jun 9, 2022 20:19:09 GMT -5
Real reason why they didn't go with Rhino - because despite all the hype he was an incredibly green rookie who couldn't hang if a match went longer then three minutes. He was another Paul Heyman smoke and mirrors project.
I always felt he would've had a much better career if when the WWF signed him in 2001, they would've sent him to whatever their developmental territory was at the time instead of immediately putting him on TV. He really needed the seasoning.
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