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Post by 67 more on Jun 8, 2022 0:34:30 GMT -5
Just wondering, as a bunch of NJPW juniors move up to heavyweight, does it ever happen the other way where a heavyweight cuts weight to compete in the junior division?
I know there are examples in WWE, with both Matt Hardy and Christian having comedic skits to drop to the lower weight class. Obviously, the X Division title doesn't count as for the majority of its life it didn't have a weight limit.
Any other examples are welcomed but if anyone knows of a New Japan example where the weight classes are treated a bit more seriously, that would be great.
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Post by Starshine on Jun 8, 2022 3:41:56 GMT -5
Atsushi Kotoge from NOAH moved from Jr. to Heavy back around 2016-17, he didn't even really bulk up at all, he just annunced himself as being a heavyweght guy. Then he dropped back down to Jr. only a couple of years later.
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Post by tafkaga on Jun 8, 2022 9:13:54 GMT -5
They made a big deal about Brad Armstrong dropping some weight so he could compete in the WCW cruiserweight division.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 8, 2022 17:45:08 GMT -5
Buddy Murphy probably would not have anywhere near the career he has now if he hadn't aggressively cut weight to get onto 205 Live and do the best work of his career to that point. One of the only non home grown guys to actually make the WWE brass ring shit work for him.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Jun 8, 2022 17:50:47 GMT -5
"Playboy" Buddy Rose being able to drop down to 217 pounds at a moments' notice for a match is mind-boggling if you think about it.  |
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Post by cassonova on Jun 8, 2022 18:14:19 GMT -5
"Playboy" Buddy Rose being able to drop down to 217 pounds at a moments' notice for a match is mind-boggling if you think about it. You dare doubt the Blow Away Diet!? |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 10, 2022 2:42:26 GMT -5
Buddy Murphy probably would not have anywhere near the career he has now if he hadn't aggressively cut weight to get onto 205 Live and do the best work of his career to that point. One of the only non home grown guys to actually make the WWE brass ring shit work for him. It's still so absurd that WWE apparently weighed him on a regular basis to make sure he was 205 or less. Like, of all the shit to be a shoot, why something fans literally could not possibly verify visually? |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 10, 2022 4:23:19 GMT -5
Buddy Murphy probably would not have anywhere near the career he has now if he hadn't aggressively cut weight to get onto 205 Live and do the best work of his career to that point. One of the only non home grown guys to actually make the WWE brass ring shit work for him. It's still so absurd that WWE apparently weighed him on a regular basis to make sure he was 205 or less. Like, of all the shit to be a shoot, why something fans literally could not possibly verify visually? We have to make sure that we keep it realistic when dealing with things that are notably accurate like *checks notes* wrestling heights and weights |
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Jun 10, 2022 16:12:49 GMT -5
It's still so absurd that WWE apparently weighed him on a regular basis to make sure he was 205 or less. Like, of all the shit to be a shoot, why something fans literally could not possibly verify visually? We have to make sure that we keep it realistic when dealing with things that are notably accurate like *checks notes* wrestling heights and weights Well, don’t ya know, brother, Hulk Hogan was a legit 6’ 8” when he battled the 7’ 4” Andre the Giant, jack? |
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Jun 10, 2022 16:29:29 GMT -5
Disco Inferno had an off-again on-again plot point where his natural wrestling weight was around 230 and he'd have to work to cut every time he wanted to dip into the cruiserweight division.
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Post by Main Event Mark on Jun 10, 2022 17:00:57 GMT -5
Crash Holly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2022 13:14:08 GMT -5
I don't think he ever made it to junior, but the difference in Hulk Hogan before and after the steroid trial is pretty jarring.
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Post by tafkaga on Jun 11, 2022 13:46:07 GMT -5
I don't think he ever made it to junior, but the difference in Hulk Hogan before and after the steroid trial is pretty jarring. Hogan in '94 WCW looked like some old guy cosplayer. |
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Post by tirtefaa on Jun 11, 2022 15:37:12 GMT -5
I don't think he ever made it to junior, but the difference in Hulk Hogan before and after the steroid trial is pretty jarring. I still think he had work done around 1991 or 1992. His face became gaunt, cheeks sunk inward and if he was bleaching his eyebrows, he must have stopped. Yeah, he also looked like he dropped 40 lbs...so maybe the weight drop affected his face. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2022 19:28:25 GMT -5
I don't think he ever made it to junior, but the difference in Hulk Hogan before and after the steroid trial is pretty jarring. I still think he had work done around 1991 or 1992. His face became gaunt, cheeks sunk inward and if he was bleaching his eyebrows, he must have stopped. Yeah, he also looked like he dropped 40 lbs...so maybe the weight drop affected his face. I've always kind of wondered this too, but I've also noticed that Piper's face looked very different around the time of Wrestlemania 1 and 2 than it did after he came back from filming They Live. |
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jun 12, 2022 5:39:06 GMT -5
Insert HHH's "joke" about Chris Masters here --->
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Post by tafkaga on Jun 12, 2022 10:57:51 GMT -5
I don't think he ever made it to junior, but the difference in Hulk Hogan before and after the steroid trial is pretty jarring. I still think he had work done around 1991 or 1992. His face became gaunt, cheeks sunk inward and if he was bleaching his eyebrows, he must have stopped. Yeah, he also looked like he dropped 40 lbs...so maybe the weight drop affected his face. He just lost the bloat and went back to looking like a normal human being.  ![]() |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 12, 2022 16:29:56 GMT -5
Buddy Murphy probably would not have anywhere near the career he has now if he hadn't aggressively cut weight to get onto 205 Live and do the best work of his career to that point. One of the only non home grown guys to actually make the WWE brass ring shit work for him. Same could be said for Cedric Alexander. |
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