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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Jul 23, 2022 11:06:30 GMT -5
it could work, wwe could rehab the current perception of the man behind the gimmick, rehab the actual gimmick via an overhaul.
they would have to completely take over his twitter account, ban him from public speaking in any form (he didnt start his twitter stupidity after his wwe exit, he started it before.).
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Post by SirLucas on Jul 23, 2022 11:59:35 GMT -5
I'll throw my two cents in and say he can't wrestle and he can't draw flies. He was never going to be Shawn Michaels in the ring, but he seemed to know how to work fine enough for his character and had several memorable matches. As for not drawing, like I said, he was incredibly popular for a long stretch of time several years back, getting pops that rivaled anybody else on the show. Can I point to one specific huge gate that he was responsible for? No. But nowadays it's no real wrestler that's the draw, it's the WWE itself. Most of the tickets for most of their shows sell out long before any card or even performer is ever announced. Can you point to another specific metric of him not being a draw? Ratings? Merch sales? Watch numbers on the Network? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just asking for the receipts. Correction. the majority of WWE events do not sell out. If you have been to a recent WWE show, whether it is Raw or Smackdown or a PPV, you will almost always notice empty seats on the hard camera side that's not visible to the TV audience. The only events that have a possibility on selling out now are WrestleMania and the Saudi shows. |
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Post by Cyno on Jul 23, 2022 12:02:40 GMT -5
He'd rather control his narrative and be a moron on Twitter. And he was really starting to wear out his welcome the last year or so of his tenure.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 23, 2022 12:58:33 GMT -5
He was never going to be Shawn Michaels in the ring, but he seemed to know how to work fine enough for his character and had several memorable matches. As for not drawing, like I said, he was incredibly popular for a long stretch of time several years back, getting pops that rivaled anybody else on the show. Can I point to one specific huge gate that he was responsible for? No. But nowadays it's no real wrestler that's the draw, it's the WWE itself. Most of the tickets for most of their shows sell out long before any card or even performer is ever announced. Can you point to another specific metric of him not being a draw? Ratings? Merch sales? Watch numbers on the Network? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just asking for the receipts. Correction. the majority of WWE events do not sell out. If you have been to a recent WWE show, whether it is Raw or Smackdown or a PPV, you will almost always notice empty seats on the hard camera side that's not visible to the TV audience. The only events that have a possibility on selling out now are WrestleMania and the Saudi shows. I never meant to imply that their shows are regularly sold out anymore, merely that the tickets that are sold for shows are mostly done long before a card or performer is announced for them. |
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Post by nate5054 on Jul 23, 2022 12:59:59 GMT -5
I'm sure it would work. He's a freaking monster of a man. I doubt most fans will care about his CYA venture, as I doubt almost anyone has heard of it.
That said, if he has burnt bridges in the locker room that could hinder his return, even though there are countless examples of unpopular guys backstage doing well in wrestling.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Jul 23, 2022 13:27:31 GMT -5
He said a few stupid things on Twitter. Big f***ing deal. Society cares to much about people having opinions they don't agree with.
I'd love to see him back. He pretty much always had Roman's number, so a feud between the two would be awesome. They had great chemistry.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jul 23, 2022 13:39:56 GMT -5
He said a few stupid things on Twitter. Big f***ing deal. Society cares to much about people having opinions they don't agree with. I'd love to see him back. He pretty much always had Roman's number, so a feud between the two would be awesome. They had great chemistry. One thing he did was shit on indie workers during a pandemic, I mean that is not going to endear himself to many people in the business even 2 years later |
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Jul 23, 2022 13:48:31 GMT -5
He said a few stupid things on Twitter. Big f***ing deal. Society cares to much about people having opinions they don't agree with. I'd love to see him back. He pretty much always had Roman's number, so a feud between the two would be awesome. They had great chemistry. One thing he did was shit on indie workers during a pandemic, I mean that is not going to endear himself to many people in the business even 2 years later I mean... he had an opinion. Are people not allowed those anymore? |
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Post by J Lee O'Brien on Jul 23, 2022 13:52:45 GMT -5
With a casual audience, probably. For people like us that are more aware of some of his dumber statements and CYA...err...CYN, nope.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jul 23, 2022 13:55:22 GMT -5
One thing he did was shit on indie workers during a pandemic, I mean that is not going to endear himself to many people in the business even 2 years later I mean... he had an opinion. Are people not allowed those anymore? Yes of course he is, but people shouldn't be free from consequences either and his consequences could have meant burnt bridges etc |
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Jul 23, 2022 16:46:48 GMT -5
I mean... he had an opinion. Are people not allowed those anymore? Yes of course he is, but people shouldn't be free from consequences either and his consequences could have meant burnt bridges etc Eh. People need thicker skins. |
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jul 23, 2022 16:50:46 GMT -5
Yes of course he is, but people shouldn't be free from consequences either and his consequences could have meant burnt bridges etc Eh. People need thicker skins. or people need to think before they speak or type |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 23, 2022 16:51:55 GMT -5
One thing he did was shit on indie workers during a pandemic, I mean that is not going to endear himself to many people in the business even 2 years later I mean... he had an opinion. Are people not allowed those anymore? He's free to have that opinion and on the flipside people are free to have the opinion that he's an asshole they want nothing to do with because of it. |
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 23, 2022 16:53:39 GMT -5
Look, I don't agree with what Braun said, but I also really don't think he said anything that offensive or unforgivable. Nothing that should be a career killer. It's not like he went on a racist or homophobic tirade or anything.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 23, 2022 16:54:56 GMT -5
Absolutely. They've tried replacing him with a dozen big dudes and it hasn't worked. For all his faults, Braun had a connection with the audience and could do enough in the ring to get by. I'm sure they could pay him more than whatever he's earning now and still save a good chunk over his previous contract.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jul 23, 2022 16:57:10 GMT -5
One thing he did was shit on indie workers during a pandemic, I mean that is not going to endear himself to many people in the business even 2 years later I mean... he had an opinion. Are people not allowed those anymore? You know having an opinion about someone else's opinion is an opinion right? |
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Jul 23, 2022 19:40:40 GMT -5
I mean... he had an opinion. Are people not allowed those anymore? You know having an opinion about someone else's opinion is an opinion right? I get that. But people want dude to not have a career. Like... that's a bit extreme, ya kno? |
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