Question about Oct. 30, 2003 Smackdown ep. on Peacock

[cjh]

Does the Peacock version of the Oct. 30, 2003 episode of Smackdown still have the Halloween costume segment with Torrie Wilson and Dawn Marie?  It has been cut out on the regular WWE Network.

Oddly, the Network only doesn't show the segment itself.  All the references to it elsewhere in the episode haven't been cut.

[MiLB Fan]

I checked the episode and that segment is included.

[chronocross]

The segment is on the Peacock version of the 10/30/03 Smackdown.

[67 more]

I've just checked the Network and it's still there. The tabs are all f***ed up for changing section but it's still there.

[cjh]

Aug 2, 2022 7:22:39 GMT -5 67 more said:

I've just checked the Network and it's still there. The tabs are all f***ed up for changing section but it's still there.

It may still be listed in the "Jump to" section, but the video itself doesn't have the segment.  The Network version of the episode runs 73 minutes while the Peacock version is 84 minutes.

[Gecko]

Aug 2, 2022 8:20:33 GMT -5 cjh said:

Aug 2, 2022 7:22:39 GMT -5 67 more said:

I've just checked the Network and it's still there. The tabs are all f***ed up for changing section but it's still there.

It may still be listed in the "Jump to" section, but the video itself doesn't have the segment.  The Network version of the episode runs 73 minutes while the Peacock version is 84 minutes.

It gets even stranger as the thumbnails on the timeline still show it too.

[67 more]

Aug 2, 2022 8:20:33 GMT -5 cjh said:

Aug 2, 2022 7:22:39 GMT -5 67 more said:

I've just checked the Network and it's still there. The tabs are all f***ed up for changing section but it's still there.

It may still be listed in the "Jump to" section, but the video itself doesn't have the segment.  The Network version of the episode runs 73 minutes while the Peacock version is 84 minutes.

I've still got it, fam, full 84 minutes.

[cjh]

Aug 2, 2022 11:52:56 GMT -5 67 more said:

Aug 2, 2022 8:20:33 GMT -5 cjh said:

It may still be listed in the "Jump to" section, but the video itself doesn't have the segment.  The Network version of the episode runs 73 minutes while the Peacock version is 84 minutes.

I've still got it, fam, full 84 minutes.

Weird.  I'm getting the episode with the running time that's listed in the top left corner of that image by the date and rating.

If you browse the 2003 Smackdown page, what does the running time on the thumbnail for the episode say?  I'm seeing 1:13:46, not 1:24:01.

[Gecko]

I've just checked and it is still on the app version of the Network, but not the website version. The runtime says 1:13 for both, but the app version actually goes the full 1:24

[cornettesracket]

Aug 2, 2022 12:26:11 GMT -5 Gecko said:

I've just checked and it is still on the app version of the Network, but not the website version. The runtime says 1:13 for both, but the app version actually goes the full 1:24

Thank you. I saw this thread and checked the episode on the website version and was then confused as to why there’d be such a difference. That’s an odd glitch I suppose you’d call it.

[James Fabiano]

Dare I ask what the issue was?

[cornettesracket]

Aug 3, 2022 9:58:04 GMT -5 James Fabiano said:

Dare I ask what the issue was?

It seems like a bug with the website version of the network. 

[cjh]

Aug 3, 2022 10:48:00 GMT -5 cornettesracket said:

Aug 3, 2022 9:58:04 GMT -5 James Fabiano said:

Dare I ask what the issue was?

It seems like a bug with the website version of the network. 

I think it's miscommunication over editing content for Peacock. They clearly intended to cut the segment but mistakenly sent Peacock the episode with the segment included.

Another example of this is Jan. 5, 1998 Raw. It had a Flash Funk vs. Goldust match with Goldust in blackface. They were supposed to get rid of it for Peacock in spring 2021. Instead, Peacock has the original version of the episode with the match included while WWE Network has the updated version with the match removed.

[cornettesracket]

Aug 3, 2022 10:52:53 GMT -5 cjh said:

Aug 3, 2022 10:48:00 GMT -5 cornettesracket said:

It seems like a bug with the website version of the network. 

I think it's miscommunication over editing content for Peacock.  They clearly intended to cut the segment but mistakenly sent Peacock the episode with the segment included.

Another example of this is Jan. 5, 1998 Raw.  It had a Flash Funk vs. Goldust match with Goldust in blackface.  They were supposed to get rid of it for Peacock in spring 2021.  Instead, Peacock has the original version of the episode with the match included while WWE Network has the updated version with the match removed.

But my understanding was peacock would be making edits to the shows as they saw fit and WWE would be informed of any edits. So if peacock wanted to edit it they could’ve done so. Why they haven’t I don’t know. 

[cjh]

Aug 3, 2022 10:57:45 GMT -5 cornettesracket said:

Aug 3, 2022 10:52:53 GMT -5 cjh said:

I think it's miscommunication over editing content for Peacock.  They clearly intended to cut the segment but mistakenly sent Peacock the episode with the segment included.

Another example of this is Jan. 5, 1998 Raw.  It had a Flash Funk vs. Goldust match with Goldust in blackface.  They were supposed to get rid of it for Peacock in spring 2021.  Instead, Peacock has the original version of the episode with the match included while WWE Network has the updated version with the match removed.

But my understanding was peacock would be making edits to the shows as they saw fit and WWE would be informed of any edits. So if peacock wanted to edit it they could’ve done so. Why they haven’t I don’t know. 

I think WWE's people did the actual work of making the edits after being told by Peacock what to cut.

[cornettesracket]

Aug 3, 2022 11:03:10 GMT -5 cjh said:

Aug 3, 2022 10:57:45 GMT -5 cornettesracket said:

But my understanding was peacock would be making edits to the shows as they saw fit and WWE would be informed of any edits. So if peacock wanted to edit it they could’ve done so. Why they haven’t I don’t know. 

I think WWE's people did the actual work of making the edits after being told by Peacock what to cut.

Well someone f***ed up somewhere. And I understand the other edits regarding black face but never understood the gold dust edit. His face paint was black and gold at that time wasn’t it ? It was gold at the very start but it was always some mix of black and gold and I don’t think any crow sting stuff has been edited off the network has it ?

[James Fabiano]

I guess the idea was, what was offensive/not usable in the segment? Content? Music?

[cornettesracket]

Aug 3, 2022 11:10:43 GMT -5 James Fabiano said:

I guess the idea was, what was offensive/not usable in the segment? Content? Music?

Which segment ? It’s not actually missing on the app version(the episode in the thread title) it’s the run time is wrong.

[cjh]

Aug 3, 2022 11:10:39 GMT -5 cornettesracket said:

Aug 3, 2022 11:03:10 GMT -5 cjh said:

I think WWE's people did the actual work of making the edits after being told by Peacock what to cut.

Well someone f***ed up somewhere. And I understand the other edits regarding black face but never understood the gold dust edit. His face paint was black and gold at that time wasn’t it ? It was gold at the very start but it was always some mix of black and gold and I don’t think any crow sting stuff has been edited off the network has it ?

The Flash Funk match was completely different from those Goldust/Vader segments that got cut.  Goldust was actually in blackface for the FF match, just like X-Pac in the DX parody of the Nation.

[James Fabiano]

Aug 3, 2022 11:15:50 GMT -5 cornettesracket said:

Aug 3, 2022 11:10:43 GMT -5 James Fabiano said:

I guess the idea was, what was offensive/not usable in the segment? Content? Music?

Which segment ? It’s not actually missing on the app version(the episode in the thread title) it’s the run time is wrong.

Torrie/Dawn. I was under the impression it was once taken out.