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Post by SirLucas on Aug 4, 2022 13:34:07 GMT -5
After Diamond Dallas Page won the Slamboree Lethal Lottery battle royal, they started using the Lord of the Ring moniker as a gimmick. I believe they even had him defending the ring like it was a title. I remember him and Eddie had a serious of matches build around the ring, and even Hacksaw Duggan challenged for ring.
The biggest problem I found was that a ring around one's finger is too small for the audience to notice. Any time in wrestling a prop is introduced to denote some sort of accolade, e.g. a belt, crown, briefcase, etc., that prop needs to be large enough for the live audience to visualize it. Otherwise, it's useless.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 4, 2022 13:35:42 GMT -5
This is one of my issues with the Dynamite Diamond Ring
Also that MJF won it three times
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Post by SirLucas on Aug 4, 2022 13:40:23 GMT -5
Plus there are way too many championships in AEW at the moment to keep up with. Cornette just did a rant about this, which you can find the clip on YouTube.
I don't watch a lot of AEW these days except for the PPVs and occasional TV special. So please answer me. Are the Owen belts being defended or not? What's the deal with those titles?
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 4, 2022 13:45:23 GMT -5
Plus there are way too many championships in AEW at the moment to keep up with. Cornette just did a rant about this, which you can find the clip on YouTube. I don't watch a lot of AEW these days except for the PPVs and occasional TV special. So please answer me. Are the Owen belts being defended or not? What's the deal with those titles? They aren't. From my understanding, they're basically just like the medals Diamante and Ivelisse won in a tag tournament, and just an award, rather than actually a title belt to defend or anything. |
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Post by DSR on Aug 4, 2022 15:00:12 GMT -5
Cody's ROH World Title run did a decent job with the championship ring. Though those shows were in more intimate settings and Cody made a big thing of trying to get opponents (and fans) to kiss the ring.
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Post by chronocross on Aug 4, 2022 15:08:49 GMT -5
I remember they shelved it after the Halloween Havoc 96 match with Eddie Guerrero. I believe DDP was supposed to get a World Title shot as well but it never happened at that time.
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Post by XIII on Aug 4, 2022 15:20:15 GMT -5
The real question is: did Dr. Nash ever find his SEC Championship ring?
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Post by tafkaga on Aug 4, 2022 15:58:44 GMT -5
After Diamond Dallas Page won the Slamboree Lethal Lottery battle royal, they started using the Lord of the Ring moniker as a gimmick. I believe they even had him defending the ring like it was a title. I remember him and Eddie had a serious of matches build around the ring, and even Hacksaw Duggan challenged for ring. The biggest problem I found was that a ring around one's finger is too small for the audience to notice. Any time in wrestling a prop is introduced to denote some sort of accolade, e.g. a belt, crown, briefcase, etc., that prop needs to be large enough for the live audience to visualize it. Otherwise, it's useless. The idea of DDP defending his Lord of the Ring uhh... ring, was really stupid anyway. That would be like someone challenging Brock Lesnar for his Royal Rumble win. "I challenge you Brock Lesnar, on Monday Night Raw, for your Royal Rumble victory, and I will be the new Royal Rumble winner!" The only thing that might have made sense is to have DDP defend it in next year's BattleBowl. |
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Post by RareTradU on Aug 4, 2022 17:55:26 GMT -5
After Diamond Dallas Page won the Slamboree Lethal Lottery battle royal, they started using the Lord of the Ring moniker as a gimmick. I believe they even had him defending the ring like it was a title. I remember him and Eddie had a serious of matches build around the ring, and even Hacksaw Duggan challenged for ring. The biggest problem I found was that a ring around one's finger is too small for the audience to notice. Any time in wrestling a prop is introduced to denote some sort of accolade, e.g. a belt, crown, briefcase, etc., that prop needs to be large enough for the live audience to visualize it. Otherwise, it's useless. The idea of DDP defending his Lord of the Ring uhh... ring, was really stupid anyway. That would be like someone challenging Brock Lesnar for his Royal Rumble win. "I challenge you Brock Lesnar, on Monday Night Raw, for your Royal Rumble victory, and I will be the new Royal Rumble winner!" The only thing that might have made sense is to have DDP defend it in next year's BattleBowl. Haven’t they actually done this with royal rumble victories and money in the bank suitcases? I swear this has happened. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2022 19:35:01 GMT -5
I remember they shelved it after the Halloween Havoc 96 match with Eddie Guerrero. I believe DDP was supposed to get a World Title shot as well but it never happened at that time. They announced the winner gets a world title shot at great american bash instead Luger got the shot while DDP faced MAB. |
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Post by SirLucas on Aug 4, 2022 22:19:44 GMT -5
I remember they shelved it after the Halloween Havoc 96 match with Eddie Guerrero. I believe DDP was supposed to get a World Title shot as well but it never happened at that time. They announced the winner gets a world title shot at great american bash instead Luger got the shot while DDP faced MAB. What was the kayfabe reason why DDP lost his title shot? Didn't some underhanded tactic cause WCW management to punish DDP by revoking his championship opportunity? I can't remember. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 4, 2022 23:41:02 GMT -5
The idea of DDP defending his Lord of the Ring uhh... ring, was really stupid anyway. That would be like someone challenging Brock Lesnar for his Royal Rumble win. "I challenge you Brock Lesnar, on Monday Night Raw, for your Royal Rumble victory, and I will be the new Royal Rumble winner!" The only thing that might have made sense is to have DDP defend it in next year's BattleBowl. Haven’t they actually done this with royal rumble victories and money in the bank suitcases? I swear this has happened. Yes, both the Rumble title shot and the Money in the Bank briefcases have been defended and changed hands. Off hand, I know Mr. Kennedy and Otis lost their briefcases in defenses, and McMahon, Rock, and Rey Mysterio all lost their Mania title matches when they won the Rumble, though Rock and Mysterio ended up getting added back into those matches due to controversy in those defenses. |
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Aug 4, 2022 23:51:04 GMT -5
This reminds me that there was an indy promotion that also had a "Lord of the Dance" title, that was only defended in 3-way Dance matches. I forget the promotion, but Mike Quackenbush was once the champion and it was definitely before CHIKARA existed.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 5, 2022 4:59:07 GMT -5
Plus there are way too many championships in AEW at the moment to keep up with. Cornette just did a rant about this, which you can find the clip on YouTube. I don't watch a lot of AEW these days except for the PPVs and occasional TV special. So please answer me. Are the Owen belts being defended or not? What's the deal with those titles? They aren't. From my understanding, they're basically just like the medals Diamante and Ivelisse won in a tag tournament, and just an award, rather than actually a title belt to defend or anything. Yeah, Outside of like the immediate aftermath they didn't even come out wearing them. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 5, 2022 5:01:18 GMT -5
Haven’t they actually done this with royal rumble victories and money in the bank suitcases? I swear this has happened. Yes, both the Rumble title shot and the Money in the Bank briefcases have been defended and changed hands. Off hand, I know Mr. Kennedy and Otis lost their briefcases in defenses, and McMahon, Rock, and Rey Mysterio all lost their Mania title matches when they won the Rumble, though Rock and Mysterio ended up getting added back into those matches due to controversy in those defenses. Vince didn't lose his chance. He gave it up, on Raw. Saying he didn't want to face The Rock at Mania... then Commissioner Michaels came out and said well according to the rules that counts as a forfeit and officially means the Runner Up gets the shot. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 5, 2022 5:17:15 GMT -5
Yes, both the Rumble title shot and the Money in the Bank briefcases have been defended and changed hands. Off hand, I know Mr. Kennedy and Otis lost their briefcases in defenses, and McMahon, Rock, and Rey Mysterio all lost their Mania title matches when they won the Rumble, though Rock and Mysterio ended up getting added back into those matches due to controversy in those defenses. Vince didn't lose his chance. He gave it up, on Raw. Saying he didn't want to face The Rock at Mania... then Commissioner Michaels came out and said well according to the rules that counts as a forfeit and officially means the Runner Up gets the shot. OK, my memory is a bit hazy there, but I did remember that Austin wasn't #1 contender until he won the St. Valentine's Day Massacre cage match with Vince. Essentially, Vince was defending the title shot, but not for himself, but for literally anyone not Austin. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 5, 2022 5:47:41 GMT -5
Vince didn't lose his chance. He gave it up, on Raw. Saying he didn't want to face The Rock at Mania... then Commissioner Michaels came out and said well according to the rules that counts as a forfeit and officially means the Runner Up gets the shot. OK, my memory is a bit hazy there, but I did remember that Austin wasn't #1 contender until he won the St. Valentine's Day Massacre cage match with Vince. Essentially, Vince was defending the title shot, but not for himself, but for literally anyone not Austin. If memory serves it was something Austin proposed entirely so he could get his hands on Vince, and if Vince won then Bossman would get the shot since he came in third place in the Rumble. |
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Post by tafkaga on Aug 5, 2022 10:14:00 GMT -5
The idea of DDP defending his Lord of the Ring uhh... ring, was really stupid anyway. That would be like someone challenging Brock Lesnar for his Royal Rumble win. "I challenge you Brock Lesnar, on Monday Night Raw, for your Royal Rumble victory, and I will be the new Royal Rumble winner!" The only thing that might have made sense is to have DDP defend it in next year's BattleBowl. Haven’t they actually done this with royal rumble victories and money in the bank suitcases? I swear this has happened. I think those are different cases because they were putting their title shots on the line. In the DDP case, the ring was basically just his trophy for winning the match. Would be like the LA Rams defending their Superbowl rings on Monday Night football against the Dallas Cowboys, and the Cowboys winning and saying "Now we're the SuperBowl champs!" |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2022 13:18:07 GMT -5
They announced the winner gets a world title shot at great american bash instead Luger got the shot while DDP faced MAB. What was the kayfabe reason why DDP lost his title shot? Didn't some underhanded tactic cause WCW management to punish DDP by revoking his championship opportunity? I can't remember. DDP was eliminated early in the match with both feet hitting the floor but the refs missed it. The WCW executive committee reviewed the tape ruling that it wouldn’t be fair for him to receive the title shot but he can keep the ring. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 5, 2022 13:39:12 GMT -5
OK, my memory is a bit hazy there, but I did remember that Austin wasn't #1 contender until he won the St. Valentine's Day Massacre cage match with Vince. Essentially, Vince was defending the title shot, but not for himself, but for literally anyone not Austin. If memory serves it was something Austin proposed entirely so he could get his hands on Vince, and if Vince won then Bossman would get the shot since he came in third place in the Rumble. Yep, Austin is the one that put HIS title shot on the line. |
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