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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Mar 18, 2023 5:04:46 GMT -5
Vampires in BTVS trying to destroy the world never made much sense. Even Spike pointed out that for a vampire, the world was an ideal place to live. I remember he also said that most vampires don't actually want the world to burn and they're just showboating.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Mar 18, 2023 5:29:02 GMT -5
Vampires in BTVS trying to destroy the world never made much sense. Even Spike pointed out that for a vampire, the world was an ideal place to live. I remember he also said that most vampires don't actually want the world to burn and they're just showboating. The fact that most "true" demons looks down on vampires makes it make some kind of sense. It would make some vampires want to prove themselves to the other demons by doing something they have not been able to accomplish.
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Post by schma on Mar 18, 2023 9:33:26 GMT -5
Rose Tyler being satisfied with Clone 10 as a consolation prize. It's been years since I saw the show but the fact is, Rose was a moron. I don't say that to be mean, her character was very much below average intelligence out of her element. Now her character got better as the show went on. The reason I mention this is she may have looked at this clone and figured he looks like the Doctor, he sounds like the doctor, why won't he eventually be like the doctor? I figure she went for it because she figured in the ways that mattered he was the same guy. But, again I haven't seen the episode in years so I may not be remembering clearly.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Mar 18, 2023 9:48:34 GMT -5
Rose Tyler being satisfied with Clone 10 as a consolation prize. It's been years since I saw the show but the fact is, Rose was a moron. I don't say that to be mean, her character was very much below average intelligence out of her element. Now her character got better as the show went on. The reason I mention this is she may have looked at this clone and figured he looks like the Doctor, he sounds like the doctor, why won't he eventually be like the doctor? I figure she went for it because she figured in the ways that mattered he was the same guy. But, again I haven't seen the episode in years so I may not be remembering clearly. I’d recommend rewatching the episode as can almost guarantee it’s worse than you remember. They even have 10 hand wave away objections that clone 10 is a glorified body pillow.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Mar 19, 2023 5:49:49 GMT -5
How did King Arthur get the coconuts? Britain is a temperate zone, coconuts are tropical.
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Post by Ash Kingston on Mar 19, 2023 6:35:57 GMT -5
Why did all the other factions in Warhammer Fantasy not unite to purge all the Dwarfs from existance? This is a race famous for going on murderous wars of vengence over even the smallest slights. You're telling me not once at any point did the humans, elves, and whoever else decide these short bearded psychos were more trouble than they were worth, and wiped their holds off the map? Well, if memory serves, the High Elves tried to fight a war with them after being a bunch of... well, elves, and they got their shit stomped in for it until they gave up due to the Dark Elves being their usual, "charming" selves and went home. Plus, the Empire were - and presumably still are - on good terms with them, and even though Grudges are obviously annoying (see: destroying a keep because the guy you built it for missed two coppers), they were bound to happen anyway, and when the other guys have fancy cannons and stuff that can take out orcs, beastmen, and rats of unusual size (not to mention Chaos Warriors), you just gotta suck it up.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 19, 2023 9:05:59 GMT -5
Any time comics need to do a "the superheroes must yield to authority and/or have checks and balances", some big organization or group will crack down on all the heroes with MUCH more enthusiasm and effort than they have ever mustered for dealing with villains, often while giving them general amnesty or other bribes to help with this.
No one in these stories ever seems to ask, "You know, if we did this to villains on our own, wouldn't we not need superheroes to begin with? If we're just deciding to act super fascist, anyway."
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Mar 19, 2023 9:37:16 GMT -5
The fact that they couldn't go back to rescue the Ponds. The Statue of Liberty being able to walk through New York without being seen. Hell pretty much everything in that episode of Doctor Who. Plus, combined with "the image of an Angel is an Angel" nugget, the Statue is one of the most photographed things in the entire world, so there are billions of them running around now.
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Post by schma on Mar 19, 2023 10:37:18 GMT -5
The fact that they couldn't go back to rescue the Ponds. The Statue of Liberty being able to walk through New York without being seen. Hell pretty much everything in that episode of Doctor Who. Plus, combined with "the image of an Angel is an Angel" nugget, the Statue is one of the most photographed things in the entire world, so there are billions of them running around now. Moffatt really jumped the shark with the angels. Laying out the rules in their first appearance and then changing the rules every single time they appeared again was part of what made me loathe his writing.
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Post by Hurbster on Mar 19, 2023 13:00:23 GMT -5
How did King Arthur get the coconuts? Britain is a temperate zone, coconuts are tropical. Swallows, they could grip it by the husk.
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Post by chrom on Mar 19, 2023 13:06:59 GMT -5
Any time comics need to do a "the superheroes must yield to authority and/or have checks and balances", some big organization or group will crack down on all the heroes with MUCH more enthusiasm and effort than they have ever mustered for dealing with villains, often while giving them general amnesty or other bribes to help with this. No one in these stories ever seems to ask, "You know, if we did this to villains on our own, wouldn't we not need superheroes to begin with? If we're just deciding to act super fascist, anyway." I'm more concerned about the guy trying to cover an entire city in ice than I am the guy trying to stop him.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Mar 19, 2023 13:29:55 GMT -5
Plus, combined with "the image of an Angel is an Angel" nugget, the Statue is one of the most photographed things in the entire world, so there are billions of them running around now. Moffatt really jumped the shark with the angels. Laying out the rules in their first appearance and then changing the rules every single time they appeared again was part of what made me loathe his writing. It's overcomplicated things. What do the Daleks do? Exterminate everyone. Cybermen? Kill or Convert. Weeping Angels only needed the "don't blink or they get you with a touch"
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Mar 19, 2023 17:14:52 GMT -5
How did King Arthur get the coconuts? Britain is a temperate zone, coconuts are tropical. Swallows, they could grip it by the husk. It's not a question of where they grip it, it's weight ratio. A five ounce bird cannot carry a one pound coconut!
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 19, 2023 18:29:29 GMT -5
Moffatt really jumped the shark with the angels. Laying out the rules in their first appearance and then changing the rules every single time they appeared again was part of what made me loathe his writing. It's overcomplicated things. What do the Daleks do? Exterminate everyone. Cybermen? Kill or Convert. Weeping Angels only needed the "don't blink or they get you with a touch" Overcomplication was always a problem for Moffatt. He never created aliens as much as he created "concepts". He didn't just want a antagonist, he wanted them to exist on some level outside of the concepts of reality that people have. Sometimes this worked, like with the original Weeping Angels. Other times he just created an uninteresting villain who's shtick falls apart with 10 seconds of thoughts.
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Post by schma on Mar 19, 2023 19:10:43 GMT -5
It's overcomplicated things. What do the Daleks do? Exterminate everyone. Cybermen? Kill or Convert. Weeping Angels only needed the "don't blink or they get you with a touch" Overcomplication was always a problem for Moffatt. He never created aliens as much as he created "concepts". He didn't just want a antagonist, he wanted them to exist on some level outside of the concepts of reality that people have. Sometimes this worked, like with the original Weeping Angels. Other times he just created an uninteresting villain who's shtick falls apart with 10 seconds of thoughts. His work as head writer reminded me a lot of when Brian Michael Bendis was one of the big writers at Marvel. There was some great stuff but all too often he would come up with an idea or a plot that simply didn't work with the characters that were established. So he would warp things until his plot could go forward. You end up with major characters acting out of character or large plot holes. Moffatt had less established characters to work with, but many of his stories tended to end up, 'this plot works because I say it works'. The angels were great as a rare threat because they were still scary but he tried to turn them into an institution like Cybermen or Daleks and the result was a convoluted mess.
Yeah, a weeping angel statue of liberty made for a great visual but it fell apart with even 1 second of questioning. That was Moffatt to me, 'I have a cool idea! Don't bother me with the details, it will work because I'm awesome and you need to accept it'.
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Post by ace on Mar 19, 2023 19:18:44 GMT -5
Vampires in BTVS trying to destroy the world never made much sense. Even Spike pointed out that for a vampire, the world was an ideal place to live. I actually thought Angel wanting to destroy the world made sense. It’s the effect of the curse when he’s returned to form. The demon in him remembers what it was like to care and feel the same way the human in him had to remember what it was like not to. With a soul he’s haunted by it. Free from the soul what haunts him is having the soul thrust on him. Destroying everything that made him feel worked for me.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Mar 20, 2023 9:59:49 GMT -5
The Terminator, who knows nothing about Sarah Connor except her name, can somehow have an entire conversation with her on the phone using the voice of her mother.
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Post by schma on Mar 20, 2023 10:45:39 GMT -5
Vampires in BTVS trying to destroy the world never made much sense. Even Spike pointed out that for a vampire, the world was an ideal place to live. I actually thought Angel wanting to destroy the world made sense. It’s the effect of the curse when he’s returned to form. The demon in him remembers what it was like to care and feel the same way the human in him had to remember what it was like not to. With a soul he’s haunted by it. Free from the soul what haunts him is having the soul thrust on him. Destroying everything that made him feel worked for me. I think Spike also mentioned that Angelus was a true believer type. He used to be the right hand of the master after all.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 20, 2023 14:04:36 GMT -5
Any time comics need to do a "the superheroes must yield to authority and/or have checks and balances", some big organization or group will crack down on all the heroes with MUCH more enthusiasm and effort than they have ever mustered for dealing with villains, often while giving them general amnesty or other bribes to help with this. No one in these stories ever seems to ask, "You know, if we did this to villains on our own, wouldn't we not need superheroes to begin with? If we're just deciding to act super fascist, anyway." Wait, how doesn’t that make sense? That’s how the basic “superhero overreach” trope works. The simple solution is to just do it the old fashioned way with the authorities and the heroes mostly working on the same page and agreeing that the psycho supervillain must be stopped. Going the “are we the REAL bad guys?” route is a deliberate choice, it’s not a strict rule for modern cape writing (despite what Alan Moore wants everyone to think).
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 20, 2023 20:08:33 GMT -5
I usually side with them just because I prefer them, but in Skyrim it doesn't make any kayfabe sense why you would join the Imperials considering your introduction to them.
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