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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 22, 2023 11:18:52 GMT -5
Overcomplication was always a problem for Moffatt. He never created aliens as much as he created "concepts". He didn't just want a antagonist, he wanted them to exist on some level outside of the concepts of reality that people have. Sometimes this worked, like with the original Weeping Angels. Other times he just created an uninteresting villain who's shtick falls apart with 10 seconds of thoughts. His work as head writer reminded me a lot of when Brian Michael Bendis was one of the big writers at Marvel. There was some great stuff but all too often he would come up with an idea or a plot that simply didn't work with the characters that were established. So he would warp things until his plot could go forward. You end up with major characters acting out of character or large plot holes. Moffatt had less established characters to work with, but many of his stories tended to end up, 'this plot works because I say it works'. The angels were great as a rare threat because they were still scary but he tried to turn them into an institution like Cybermen or Daleks and the result was a convoluted mess. Yeah, a weeping angel statue of liberty made for a great visual but it fell apart with even 1 second of questioning. That was Moffatt to me, 'I have a cool idea! Don't bother me with the details, it will work because I'm awesome and you need to accept it'.
Yeah, there is always someone looking at the statue of liberty even if in the periphery at all hours... doubly so if it suddenly moved from it's pedestal... but Bendis was notorious for getting like old whos who in the Marvel universe and flipping through them to find interesting looking characters... regardless if the characters were dead... swapped sides... had massive sweeping changes to their status quo by then... whatever... didn't matter he was going to use them as they were in that edition of the encyclopedia.
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Post by schma on Mar 22, 2023 12:12:51 GMT -5
His work as head writer reminded me a lot of when Brian Michael Bendis was one of the big writers at Marvel. There was some great stuff but all too often he would come up with an idea or a plot that simply didn't work with the characters that were established. So he would warp things until his plot could go forward. You end up with major characters acting out of character or large plot holes. Moffatt had less established characters to work with, but many of his stories tended to end up, 'this plot works because I say it works'. The angels were great as a rare threat because they were still scary but he tried to turn them into an institution like Cybermen or Daleks and the result was a convoluted mess. Yeah, a weeping angel statue of liberty made for a great visual but it fell apart with even 1 second of questioning. That was Moffatt to me, 'I have a cool idea! Don't bother me with the details, it will work because I'm awesome and you need to accept it'.
Yeah, there is always someone looking at the statue of liberty even if in the periphery at all hours... doubly so if it suddenly moved from it's pedestal... but Bendis was notorious for getting like old whos who in the Marvel universe and flipping through them to find interesting looking characters... regardless if the characters were dead... swapped sides... had massive sweeping changes to their status quo by then... whatever... didn't matter he was going to use them as they were in that edition of the encyclopedia. What made it even harder to take was the booming sound of the the statue of liberty as it walked. You literally are hearing boom boom boom until they get outside. You're telling me no one thought, 'who the hell is making so much noise in the middle of the night?' Or even the next day when hey, the statue of liberty isn't where it should be.
I didn't realize that Bendis was doing that with the encylopedia but it makes sense. I think his work in the ultimate universe was so well received because there was no established canon. It was when he moved to 616 that we started getting red flags. I do have to give him credit for getting me interested in Luke Cage during the initial New Avengers run though.
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Post by chrom on May 12, 2023 20:36:37 GMT -5
If half the stuff happened in a real hospital that happens at Scrubs, the hospital would be shut down and everyone would be stripped of their licenses.
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