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Post by tafkaga on Sept 11, 2022 11:53:29 GMT -5
Barry Windham - NWA Champion, US Champion, WWF/NWA/WCW Tag Champion, 4 Horseman Curt Hennig - AWA Champion, US Champion, IC Champion, AWA/WCW Tag Champion, Mr. Perfect gimmick Dustin Rhodes - US Champion, IC Champion, WWF/WCW Tag Champion, Goldust gimmick Jeff Jarrett - WCW Champion, TNA Champion, US Champion, IC Champion, WWF Tag Champion Scott Hall - US Champion, IC Champion, AWA/WCW Tag Champion, Razor Ramon gimmick, NWO centerpiece
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Mozenrath
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 11, 2022 12:33:16 GMT -5
1. Jeff Jarrett. Small nitpick, but he won the NWA title a bunch of times, but never the Impact/TNA one, as he had done it before the change-over. Jeff's got a lot of shadows hanging over his career, sure, but he has done a remarkable job of navigating the transition of one era to the next and always finding somewhere he fits. Call him a survivor or a cockroach, but wrestling has never subdued him, and that deserves some respect.
2. Scott Hall. One of wrestling's greatest "What If?" careers, but even with his demons, he was still one of the most popular guys in one of the biggest angles in wrestling history. When all is said and done, though, he may be edged out by-
3. Dustin Rhodes. This is a tougher one to rank because his career is STILL ongoing, and he's still wrestling at a fairly high level. I called Jarrett a survivor, and he is, but Dustin maybe encapsulates that more thank any wrestler. He's had very public lows, but even if he's never been a world champion, he has done what feels like practically everything else.
4. Curt Hennig, Mr. Perfect. He almost ended up at the bottom of my list due to how much injuries and drug problems had him sitting out portions of his career where he could have been a game changer. His WCW run was also an unfortunate story in mismanagement. Still, he managed to always keep his dignity in a way the last entry didn't manage.
5. Barry Windham is a tough man to evaluate. A top star at times, and hardly a blip on the radar at others. Barry is someone who had a lot of longevity and some key heights, so I wanted to put him over Curt, but the indignities of The Stalker or the New Blackjacks really do bring the average down, so to speak, giving Curt an edge over him.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Sept 11, 2022 12:56:33 GMT -5
Scott Hall Curt Hennig Barry Windham Dustin Rhodes Jeff Jarrett
Hall might not have been world champion but the NWO is just so iconic. The Wrestlemania 10 ladder match with HBK too. I think he did more that will be remembered for future generations.
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Post by XIII on Sept 11, 2022 13:49:05 GMT -5
Scott Hall Curt Hennig Jeff Jarrett Dustin Rhodes Barry Windham
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Sept 11, 2022 15:57:17 GMT -5
good question. I would definitely rank Windham fifth. Never made it in the WWF as all of his runs were short and with the exception of the first one with The US Express disn't bring much success for him. Even his one World Title run in WCW felt underwhelming as it was the International Tile which was treated as the second World Title to the WCW World Title and even then it felt like he was he was just keeping the belt warm for Flair. I would also say he declined the quickest as a performer. He was washed up and a complete shell of himself by 1994 when he was only 34.
It gets tough after that. Accolade wise I would say Jarrett had the best career but he was the least memorable never a household name like Mr. Perfect, Razor Ramon, and Goldust. Dustin has the best longevity but also had the most lulls in his career where he wasn't that big of a deal wherever he was working at the time. Hall never won a World Title anywhere but Razor Ramon was a memorable character and he had the biggest impact on the business. Perfect won a World Title albeit only AWA in it's waning days but still a World Title, as Mr. Perfect was a memorable character during WWF's Golden Era, and also had decent longevity although he didn't wrestle at all from 94 through 96.
I think for me I would rank them:
1. Hennig 2. Hall 3. Jarrett 4. Rhodes 5. Windham
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Sept 11, 2022 17:46:56 GMT -5
Rhodes is fifth. A long career but it never really seemed like he was going to be at 'the top' of whatever promotion he was in.
Windham fourth, same reason but he was closer to the 'main event' when he was part of/feuding with the Horsemen.
Jarrett third. He was topping the card at a time when it felt like (to me) there was little choice but to put him there.
It's a tough choice between Hennig and Hall for the top... but it's got to be Hennig for second and Hall first.
(Just my opinion, of course)
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Post by rrg251 on Sept 11, 2022 17:52:49 GMT -5
1. Scott Hall 2. Jeff Jarrett 3. Dustin Rhodes 4. Curt Hennig 5. Barry Windham (and it's strictly relative, this is not a group where anyone easily lends themselves to "worst" or "last")
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2022 19:01:18 GMT -5
Scott Hall - One of the biggest stars in wrestling history. Ushered in the biggest wrestling boom period in history by being one of the founding members of the most popular group in wrestling history. Iconic as Razor Ramon and in the NWO. Even though he never held the World Title, he had a bigger impact than anyone on this list. Everyone knows who he is.
Curt Hennig - Like Razor, his lasting impact on the business was huge. Everyone loved Mr. Perfect.
Dustin Rhodes - To be honest, he was only ever good as Goldust. That's not a knock on him. Mark Calaway was only good as The Undertaker and Glenn Jacobs was only good as Kane. But every other gimmick he had sucked in my opinion. Never cared for him as "Dustys Son" but as Goldust? Definitely memorable and iconic. I feel like even some non wrestling fans know him.
Jeff Jarrett - Deserves more credit than he gets in my eyes. Everyone acts like he was one of the worst wrestlers ever and its just not true. He was good in the mid 90s WWF and I enjoyed his main event runs in WCW and TNA.
Barry Windham - Even though he had the World Title in the NWA, I feel like his impact is probably lower than the other 4 on this list. He was good, especially in the Horsemen. But his runs as The Stalker and Blackjack Windham kinda lower his stock a bit for me.
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Post by jason1980s on Sept 11, 2022 19:12:43 GMT -5
Negan's list is pretty spot on. It's sad in a way. Barry was such a great worker but like most say in threads, his heart wasn't in it after his father and brother's arrest. Jarrett did well but most was who he knew-Vince McMahon seemed to have a love for his father and he had a good spot in WWF, Russo loved him and he founded TNA.
Hall and Hennig are definitely the top two. Hall I think deserves that top spot. He was a major star in both WWF and WCW while Hennig was a great worker but never a major star in WCW. Dustin is right around the middle as well. I thought he was great in early to mid 90s WCW myself but Goldust was his breakout and made him the major star.
By money and power standards outside the ring, Jarrett probably had a better career overall to this day because he's outlived two and somehow keeps getting work in major promotions. It's just what he does, he's gone from a promotion and winds up somewhere else and then gets brought back to an old promotion. I will personally never understand why Vince brought him back so many times but he's got something promoters seem to like.
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tafkaga
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Post by tafkaga on Sept 12, 2022 12:28:56 GMT -5
Very interesting. Everyone takes a slightly different angle on it. I'm going to do that as well.
1. Dustin. Amazing longevity. Has performed at a high level for 30 years. Started as lisping son of Dusty Rhodes Jr. and came to be one of the most respected workers ever. Maybe he hasn't had the highs of some of the others but his lows are not as low either. Also don't agree that he was only good as Goldust. He was plenty over in WCW and probably had a longer shelf life there in the upper midcard than he ever had as Goldust.
2. Jarrett. Will never get the respect that Dustin gets, but he's no doubt the most prolific guy on this list and has had a long storied career. I feel like he really hit his stride later in his career, and unfortunately that's when we were all sick of him and just wanted him to go away.
3. Hall. Maybe the most charismatic guy on the list. He had that presence that just jumped off the screen. I rank him #3 because of the personal demons that held him back and kept him from reaching his full potential.
4. Hennig. Like Hall, he was a larger than life presence and had perhaps the most potential of anyone on the list, but unfortunately he peaked a full decade before his career actually ended, and spent his prime years on the shelf with injuries.
5. Windham. It hurts me because my favorite guy on this list is also at the bottom of my list. At his peak he could hang with anybody, but his career has too many valleys and long periods where he wasn't being used to his potential.
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