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Post by The Rick Jericho on Sept 25, 2022 11:13:58 GMT -5
The reason Hulk sat out and wouldn't return until the road to Wrestlemania was that he wanted to get his win back from Lesnar at Survivor Series 2002.
Knowing what we what know and the cheap transitional reign Big Show had, to send the crowd home and happy, why not give Hogan what he wanted? If they were gonna take the title off Lesnar anyway, Hogan would probably do a bigger buy rate too.
Then a month later, Angle taps out Hogan again, and we still get Angle vs. Lesnar in March.
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Post by 67 more on Sept 25, 2022 12:16:58 GMT -5
I know full well you mean Smackdown's belt, but this made me imagine Hogan in the Chamber and it's hilarious.
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Post by Tom Selleck on Sept 25, 2022 13:38:53 GMT -5
I don’t think they wanted Brock losing clean at that point In his career. Hogan turning heel and aligning with Heyman wouldn’t have worked like it did with Big Show. Brock losing to 50 year old Hogan wouldn’t have made a lot of sense even if he was winning back at Mania in a few months.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Sept 25, 2022 14:01:02 GMT -5
Id have f***ing loved it!
But I always heard that rumor as Hogan would come the closest anyone ever had, and still lose. Then lose the belt the next month and still get his Rumble and Mania win.
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Post by tntchamp on Sept 25, 2022 17:54:18 GMT -5
On one hand, a 50 year old Hogan really should not be the first person to beat a then undefeated Lesnar. On the other hand, it probably still would have been better then Big Show beating Lesnar even if it wasn't a clean pin. It felt kind of anticlimactic to have Lesnar run through everyone just have Big Show of all people score the first pin fall victory on him. Still Hogan isn't much better at all despite maybe working as a feel good moment.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 25, 2022 18:16:29 GMT -5
It would have been a Hogan thing to do to be the guy to beat Lesnar…but at 50? Eh. Though Lesnar deciding he was a football player shortly after, so would it have mattered even in that short term??
I just know I would have enjoyed it but I can see all the reasons not to do it.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Sept 25, 2022 18:20:32 GMT -5
Part of using Big Show was to begin Lesnars face turn. He apologized to Taker, making Heyman worry that Brock was losing his edge and Heyman was losing control. You could make it work where Lesnar lost to Hulk, Heyman betrayed him afterwards for losing, and Lesnar turns face but it would have weakened the whole angle.
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Post by bluebeach25 on Sept 25, 2022 18:44:11 GMT -5
The reason Hulk sat out and wouldn't return until the road to Wrestlemania was that he wanted to get his win back from Lesnar at Survivor Series 2002. Knowing what we what know and the cheap transitional reign Big Show had, to send the crowd home and happy, why not give Hogan what he wanted? If they were gonna take the title off Lesnar anyway, Hogan would probably do a bigger buy rate too. Then a month later, Angle taps out Hogan again, and we still get Angle vs. Lesnar in March. Hogan in 02 had zero business beating Brock! It was suprising enough that he took that loss at the Smackdown Episode in August. I never liked the fact that Heyman turned on Lesnar with Big Show, it was just bad booking but still better than 50 yr old Hogan beating Brock. Thank god Vince never let that happen.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 25, 2022 18:48:19 GMT -5
Hollywood Hogan with Heyman as his manager would admittedly have been probably hilarious television. You know what, I kinda wish we got this now.
For no particular reason, in a reference lost on like 92% of the audience, they revive the Dangerous Alliance.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 25, 2022 20:01:18 GMT -5
The reason Hulk sat out and wouldn't return until the road to Wrestlemania was that he wanted to get his win back from Lesnar at Survivor Series 2002. Knowing what we what know and the cheap transitional reign Big Show had, to send the crowd home and happy, why not give Hogan what he wanted? If they were gonna take the title off Lesnar anyway, Hogan would probably do a bigger buy rate too. Then a month later, Angle taps out Hogan again, and we still get Angle vs. Lesnar in March. the crowd went home happy with HBK winning the chamber.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Sept 25, 2022 20:08:51 GMT -5
MSG would have went wild for it so if you did it in a match with a bunch of shenanigans and stuff it probably wouldn't be that bad. Hogan doing his regular routine though and kicking out of the F5/breaking out of the bearhug that had beat him in August, hulking up and beating Lesnar clean with the legdrop would have been terrible in 2002. It was too soon for Brock to be doing a clean job, especially to a 50 year old part-timer.
What actually was Brock's first clean loss? I think Angle beat him clean at Vengeance/Summerslam 2003 but not sure if anyone did it before that.
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Post by hassanchop on Sept 25, 2022 20:22:04 GMT -5
The only way it would work if it was nWo Hollywood Hogan. But Hall and Nash were gone at this point. Well it could work if they add Big Show and Scott Steiner, that would be an interesting twist. Steiner comes in as face but becomes heel when he aligns himself with Hogan, maybe add Brian Adams who was still in developmental and bring in Virgil, and if possible, though unlikely Buff Bagwell and you got nWo Black and White with Paul Heyman vs Lesnar.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Sept 25, 2022 23:42:26 GMT -5
Hogan comes back and starts wearing HBK's poop-brown tights.
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Post by 4real on Sept 26, 2022 0:03:25 GMT -5
No thanks. What we got was fine. I was genuinely amazed that Lesnar actually got Show up for the F5. Plus as said Lesnar was turning face at this point so it would have interfered with plans for Lesnar v Angle.
Also Hogan got his title run earlier in the year. Leave it be. Hogan had no business beating Lesnar in 2002.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Sept 26, 2022 3:13:47 GMT -5
Again, wasn't the rumor that Hogan was gonna take Brock to the absolute limit and still lose?
Honestly, id have lost my shit over Hogan beating Brock, at MSG. But I understand why they didn't do it.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Sept 26, 2022 11:36:52 GMT -5
Again, wasn't the rumor that Hogan was gonna take Brock to the absolute limit and still lose? I think that's what Vince wanted. Meltzer reported at the time that Hogan wanted to win but Vince wanted Brock to win again and neither would budge. Once it became clear they weren't going to come to an agreement they needed a last minute replacement which is why the Big Show thing kinda came out of nowhere. He was a midcarder on Raw doing absolutely nothing of importance then they quickly moved him to Smackdown as a main eventer. Heyman was supposedly pitching for Benoit to get the spot. If the match went ahead I think Vince would have screwed Hogan over to keep him from taking another clean loss and to start their feud. Basically what they ended up doing at No Way Out 2003 just a few months earlier. With the history between Hogan, Vince and MSG I can see that being treated as a big moment.
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 26, 2022 19:27:19 GMT -5
No. Hogan got his title win and whatnot already. Beating Brock would've hurt Lesnar.
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Post by Ozman on Sept 26, 2022 21:53:51 GMT -5
Hogan beating the unbeatable Brock Lesnar in 2002 would have legitimately got me to stop watching.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Sept 26, 2022 23:08:33 GMT -5
THE PARTY’S OVER, GRANDPA
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