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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on May 2, 2024 15:00:14 GMT -5
I can't imagine how little of a life someone has to waste an entire night and who knows how much money to attend a wrestling taping just to shit on it for internet clout. They're sure showing Phony Con by... giving him more money.
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on May 2, 2024 15:12:04 GMT -5
The PR machine was definitely out. Punk talks about the backstage atmosphere in AEW being unprofessional. Cornette and his ilk have run with it since, an intended side effect. Jade Cargill signs with WWE and in one of her first interviews talks about WWE being the most professional place she’s been. Punk signs with WWE and since then we’ve had a barrage of stories talking about how great he is backstage complete with countless pics of him with NXT wrestlers. I think it was a very deliberate PR campaign to drive the narrative that AEW is unprofessional . By doing so they knew the usual suspects would run with it and spread the narrative. thing is aew backstage was unprofessional from 20th August 2021 to 2nd September 2023, mainly due to the actions of one bellend and the boss not reigning in said bellend until it was too far gone and the issues that caused. that didn't come from the wwe pr team, a good chunk of it came from the trouble making bellend who leaked his side to the media to make the other side look worse (anyone who didn't kiss his ass or crossed him) while still in aew. throw in Sammy Guevara acting like a dick multiple times online and backstage, it's not a leap to say aew has had issues backstage at times that should have been nipped in the bud a lot quicker than they were. now wwe's pr team has taken advantage of these situations (with the help of said bellend.) recently which is true, but comparing aew backstage and wwe backstage is like comparing apples to pineapples considering the length of time both companies have been around and wwe has been through all the teething problems aew are just starting to go through decades ago and has procedures and rules to deal with anything that crops up (which sadly sometimes is bury the issue as much as possible.), but that is business sadly as take advantage of any weakness in the competition as often as possible is unfortunately seen as good business practice. I'm just happy there hasn't been a Billionaire Ted Tony series of sketches leading to a retorting series of sketches stinking up both companies shows. (and if either side do think this is a good idea to do, re-think it and don't f***ing do it.)
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on May 2, 2024 16:26:09 GMT -5
I can't imagine how little of a life someone has to waste an entire night and who knows how much money to attend a wrestling taping just to shit on it for internet clout. They're sure showing Phony Con by... giving him more money. There's some real "notice me, Jimpai" energy going on with the Cornette shirt dudes who go to AEW shows and then Tweet pictures of the empty hardcam side. Wrestling is a niche, and wrestling media/podcasting is a niche within a niche, so the parasocial behavior chronically online wrestling fans have for their wrestling media personality/podcaster of choice is a niche within a niche within a niche, and it's just so incredibly weird and fascinating.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on May 2, 2024 16:55:44 GMT -5
I can't imagine how little of a life someone has to waste an entire night and who knows how much money to attend a wrestling taping just to shit on it for internet clout. But enough about Dax Harwood.
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Post by KME on May 2, 2024 17:17:31 GMT -5
I don't know if I've ever seen a bigger disparity between the way an apparent majority, who don't seem to actually watch the show, see a product and the reality of it. "AEW is sooooo bad now!" Even TNA is better!... in response to AEW having signed Ospreay, Mercedes Mone and Okada, had two of the best wrestling shows of all time in Revolution and Dynasty, having one of the greatest retirements ever from Sting and one of their best Dynamite's ever where he and Darby won the titles. Oh and legitimately two of the greatest matches ever in Ospreay/Takeshita and Ospreay/Danielson. Also think their storytelling and building towards PPV has been a lot more consistent but that's mostly academic, they were set up to be a wrestling focussed wrestling company and still provide the best wrestling in the country by some distance and all that stuff I've listed above is a f***ing outrageous amount of quality over the course of just a couple of months or so. WWE or HHH or whoever know a lot of fans will go with whatever agenda you spoon feed them but you still just shake your head reading it and wonder what planet people are living on when talking about the quality falling off a cliff. It's not a perfect wrestling show but it never has been, some of the days people pine for had all sorts of bad stuff in places from Dan Lambert to Brandi Rhodes to the Codyverse to Jake Hager having regular PPV matches to the sparklers at the end of the Exploding Barbed Wire Match to Sammy nearly killing Matt Hardy to Paul Wight wrestling QT Marshall on their best ever PPV and so on. Every show will have bad bits sometimes, especially wrestling shows because it's such a weird business, but AEW are still great at what they've always been great at, they do need to fight back harder in the PR war against the idea that they've somehow become WCW in the later days where they had about 3 good shows in 2 years. A big portion of AEW's most acclaimed shows have come in the last couple of years, has there been a mainstream promotion in the states with more top tier PPV's then AEW had with Revolution, Forbidden Door, All In, All Out and WrestleDream last year? I legit don't know if I've ever seen any neutral wrestling source even mention how insane that collection or shows was. The very best wrestlers are choosing to sign for them too. These are the sort of things they need a bigger deal to be made of rather than getting swept under the carpet the way they are because someone wants to move on to talking about how AEW's dead because Toni Storm didn't talk about her tattoo enough. There is literally a running narrative out there that "I'm glad WWE missed out on Okada this guy sucks" Yeah that doesn't remotely surprise me, "didn't want him anyway" was always going to be the default response as soon as it became clear he wasn't WWE bound. Still quite funny when you've got Logan Paul, as much of a natural as he may be, holding something close to the equivalent of what Okada holds in AEW and they're saying "phew, thank god we didn't get one of the greatest wrestlers ever, who HHH desperately wanted, that would have sucked!". Obviously a lot of them will have never watched Okada, in AEW or elsewhere, that will be like a guy whose tweet I saw years ago that lumped him in when talking about "flippy shit". I try and know my limits and avoid talking definitively about wrestlers I've never watched, but there's a god awful amount of people on the IWC who clearly don't do that.
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Post by stan1337 on May 3, 2024 8:36:52 GMT -5
There is literally a running narrative out there that "I'm glad WWE missed out on Okada this guy sucks" Yeah that doesn't remotely surprise me, "didn't want him anyway" was always going to be the default response as soon as it became clear he wasn't WWE bound. Still quite funny when you've got Logan Paul, as much of a natural as he may be, holding something close to the equivalent of what Okada holds in AEW and they're saying "phew, thank god we didn't get one of the greatest wrestlers ever, who HHH desperately wanted, that would have sucked!". Obviously a lot of them will have never watched Okada, in AEW or elsewhere, that will be like a guy whose tweet I saw years ago that lumped him in when talking about "flippy shit". I try and know my limits and avoid talking definitively about wrestlers I've never watched, but there's a god awful amount of people on the IWC who clearly don't do that. Yeah, I absolutely agree. One thing I've noticed is that IWC folks love talking about shit that they do not fully understand. Like running a large organization or interpersonal relationships. The actual unhinged posters don't seem to comprehend that we, the fans, know literally only a small controlled percentage of the lives and interpersonal interactions of the talent. Additionally, the talent works in an industry built on lying and/or *wink wink* shooting by saying the "truth" but actually just still just lying. I know it's so tired to call critics "haters" but I truly believe that 80% of the non-WWE corp propaganda AEW hate comes from individuals who are jealous of TK and AEW employees. It honestly looks like a blast to work for AEW. It's a bunch of nerdy theater athletes with the same common passion. They are paid well, they are provided with respect and good working conditions, and they by and large they get to make the art they want to make. I am certain that the vast majority of the people online correcting "TKs awful booking" or telling him "how to run a business" are utterly incapable of either task. Many of them seem to either be NEETs or go to school or a job that is not as remotely as satisfying that working for AEW or running their own wrestling promotion would be for them. That makes them feel both jealousy and disappointment. The jealousy and disappointment bring up even deeper misdirected bad feelings about oneself from past trauma. Thus unhinged cruelness and hatred. Wasting ones precious time on tearing down something you do not even watch. The misdirected cruelty and hate due to unresolved trauma and cultural indoctrination is not just an IWC thing (see American politics and public life or the unhinged hatred of queer folks) but it certainly is well represented on the IWC.
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Post by defectiveepitaph on May 3, 2024 21:25:12 GMT -5
Yeah that doesn't remotely surprise me, "didn't want him anyway" was always going to be the default response as soon as it became clear he wasn't WWE bound. Still quite funny when you've got Logan Paul, as much of a natural as he may be, holding something close to the equivalent of what Okada holds in AEW and they're saying "phew, thank god we didn't get one of the greatest wrestlers ever, who HHH desperately wanted, that would have sucked!". Obviously a lot of them will have never watched Okada, in AEW or elsewhere, that will be like a guy whose tweet I saw years ago that lumped him in when talking about "flippy shit". I try and know my limits and avoid talking definitively about wrestlers I've never watched, but there's a god awful amount of people on the IWC who clearly don't do that. Yeah, I absolutely agree. One thing I've noticed is that IWC folks love talking about shit that they do not fully understand. Like running a large organization or interpersonal relationships. The actual unhinged posters don't seem to comprehend that we, the fans, know literally only a small controlled percentage of the lives and interpersonal interactions of the talent. Additionally, the talent works in an industry built on lying and/or *wink wink* shooting by saying the "truth" but actually just still just lying. I know it's so tired to call critics "haters" but I truly believe that 80% of the non-WWE corp propaganda AEW hate comes from individuals who are jealous of TK and AEW employees. It honestly looks like a blast to work for AEW. It's a bunch of nerdy theater athletes with the same common passion. They are paid well, they are provided with respect and good working conditions, and they by and large they get to make the art they want to make. I am certain that the vast majority of the people online correcting "TKs awful booking" or telling him "how to run a business" are utterly incapable of either task. Many of them seem to either be NEETs or go to school or a job that is not as remotely as satisfying that working for AEW or running their own wrestling promotion would be for them. That makes them feel both jealousy and disappointment. The jealousy and disappointment bring up even deeper misdirected bad feelings about oneself from past trauma. Thus unhinged cruelness and hatred. Wasting ones precious time on tearing down something you do not even watch. The misdirected cruelty and hate due to unresolved trauma and cultural indoctrination is not just an IWC thing (see American politics and public life or the unhinged hatred of queer folks) but it certainly is well represented on the IWC. Bro, stop, you’re flooding the thread with facts.
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on May 4, 2024 5:58:47 GMT -5
I can't imagine how little of a life someone has to waste an entire night and who knows how much money to attend a wrestling taping just to shit on it for internet clout. But enough about Dax Harwood. This post being made in a Dax Harwood thread makes the joke even funnier.
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