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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Oct 8, 2022 9:27:29 GMT -5
If you were going to make them go out with a bang, rather than a whimper. I loved the NWO at the time and still fondly remember it (perhaps more than many), but a byproduct of them being pushed as unbeatable was WCW and the Four Horsemen by extension looking like bozos.
I’d like to extend them to 1998, or at a push even 1999. But realistically with all the backstage turmoil 1997 seems like the latest time to truly make them go out with a bang. Have the War Games match be stable vs. stable and the loser has to disband. 1996 seems like it would have been even better since as it was we did get the NWO vs. The Four Horsemen at the 1997 Fall Brawl. However by 1997 the NWO had already peaked and we just got the NWO members in the match who weren’t drugged up, injured, or had vacation days left rather than the core members.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 8, 2022 9:52:34 GMT -5
They beat the nWo in a decisive match that is four vs. Four and the nWo starts to disintegrate.
Flair then wins the world title from whoever the top nWo guy was at the time.
Then once the nWo are all gone and the Horsemen have hunted down the last of them, everyone realises that Flair is now the final boss of WCW. Flair goes heel on the rest of them before they can turn on him and you use it to push one of the new lineup - at the time, probably Benoit - to fight Flair for the belt.
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Post by buckethead on Oct 8, 2022 17:08:07 GMT -5
Not exactly sure how I'd do it...but I would've ended the Horsemen before the 90s were underway.
It probably should've ended during the Wargames against LOD and Dusty/Nikita. Have it end at its peak.
While I did like it when Windham joined, it was never the same after the original 4.
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 8, 2022 17:29:57 GMT -5
War Games probably. Losing Ole weakened them. Let that be the final blow. Or at least the downward spiral ala the Dangerous Alliance. Which was what a War Games should have led to.
Nikita takes Tully's TV title.
Dusty takes the US title.
LOD beat Arn and Tully in Chicago.
And so on. Maybe save Flair losing the world title after all this happened, or even also at Starrcade against someone. Maybe Steve Williams unifies the NWA and UWF titles?
Have them in disarray over the last few months then Starrcade. Think Luger leaving but a grander scale.
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Post by buckethead on Oct 8, 2022 20:28:41 GMT -5
War Games probably. Losing Ole weakened them. Let that be the final blow. Or at least the downward spiral ala the Dangerous Alliance. Which was what a War Games should have led to. Nikita takes Tully's TV title. Dusty takes the US title. LOD beat Arn and Tully in Chicago. And so on. Maybe save Flair losing the world title after all this happened, or even also at Starrcade against someone. Maybe Steve Williams unifies the NWA and UWF titles? Have them in disarray over the last few months then Starrcade. Think Luger leaving but a grander scale. A few times a year, I take a trip down memory lane and watch certain years of 80s wrestling. Other than the beginning of the original horsemen, it gets worse with time. They went from an intimidating group of guys to essentially becoming chicken shit heels who always need interference to win. Yeah..they always jumped guys from day one but there was a certain style to it. It lost that after a couple years. The 90s Horsemen aren't even worth a rewatch. |
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Post by horsemen4ever on Oct 8, 2022 20:38:00 GMT -5
Should have ended with a Flair/ Tully feud. Remember Tully in 84, he wanted Flair's belt.
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Post by buckethead on Oct 8, 2022 20:50:05 GMT -5
Should have ended with a Flair/ Tully feud. Remember Tully in 84, he wanted Flair's belt. If things didn't have to constantly revolve around Dusty back then, maybe we could've gotten a match or two out of it. It's not a bad idea. Flair and Tully go at it while the Andersons distance themselves from it and just go back to being the Minnesota Wrecking Crew. |
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Post by XIII on Oct 8, 2022 21:43:14 GMT -5
Arn rolls in with his .45 and demands that it disbands.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Oct 9, 2022 13:18:53 GMT -5
War Games probably. Losing Ole weakened them. Let that be the final blow. Or at least the downward spiral ala the Dangerous Alliance. Which was what a War Games should have led to. Nikita takes Tully's TV title. Dusty takes the US title. LOD beat Arn and Tully in Chicago. And so on. Maybe save Flair losing the world title after all this happened, or even also at Starrcade against someone. Maybe Steve Williams unifies the NWA and UWF titles? Have them in disarray over the last few months then Starrcade. Think Luger leaving but a grander scale. A few times a year, I take a trip down memory lane and watch certain years of 80s wrestling. Other than the beginning of the original horsemen, it gets worse with time. They went from an intimidating group of guys to essentially becoming chicken shit heels who always need interference to win. Yeah..they always jumped guys from day one but there was a certain style to it. It lost that after a couple years. The 90s Horsemen aren't even worth a rewatch. That’s something I think was really lost when Ole left. He always brought a more vicious element to the group in promos and action. After he left, it became more about running from the fight, jumping their opponents later, and nearly constant interference in matches. |
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Post by salz4life on Oct 10, 2022 10:00:07 GMT -5
The Four Horseman was so established that I don't think it necessarily had to end.... they could all go their own ways and just have a loose affiliation when storylines necessitated it. But, then the NWO happened the mid '90s came along and so many start and stops with changes in "membership" dulled the group out.
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Post by Ozman on Oct 10, 2022 13:22:31 GMT -5
To me, the Horsemen ended in 1988, after Tully and Arn left for the WWF. All versions after this never felt authentic to me.
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Post by buckethead on Oct 10, 2022 15:48:10 GMT -5
To me, the Horsemen ended in 1988, after Tully and Arn left for the WWF. All versions after this never felt authentic to me. I'll never forget when Tully and Arn showed up in WWF. It was shocking. What made it even worse is how fans got robbed of what was initially shaping up to be a killer feud with the Midnight Express. This reminds me of that short period where Tully and Arn, Dusty, and Barry Windham (as Widowmaker) were all there but nothing happened between them. I know McMahon didn't like acknowledging what went on in other feds but this was a missed opportunity IMO. |
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Oct 10, 2022 22:05:18 GMT -5
To me, the Horsemen ended in 1988, after Tully and Arn left for the WWF. All versions after this never felt authentic to me. I'll never forget when Tully and Arn showed up in WWF. It was shocking. What made it even worse is how fans got robbed of what was initially shaping up to be a killer feud with the Midnight Express. This reminds me of that short period where Tully and Arn, Dusty, and Barry Windham (as Widowmaker) were all there but nothing happened between them. I know McMahon didn't like acknowledging what went on in other feds but this was a missed opportunity IMO. And JJ was in office. |
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Oct 10, 2022 22:27:28 GMT -5
Live sex celebration with balloons spelling “goodbye” in the background…
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 10, 2022 23:29:23 GMT -5
Daniel Tosh finally kicks Arn Anderson's bitchy little ass.
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