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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 17, 2022 7:20:25 GMT -5
He had three opponents and I couldn't name any of them. And the belt didn't fall, it was part of an angle on top of that. It's even worse than I remembered! ... So like is there any reason the timekeeper couldn't just ring the belt the second Bret got the belt down? Was WCW's viewership in late 1999 so bad that not even the people being paid to watch it were watching it? That might be my new number one, it's just so profoundly stupid. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 17, 2022 7:55:44 GMT -5
Sometimes, people convince themselves that mean old WWE pretends WCW was a poorly-run organization, then you go back and, no, it really was that baffling and incompetent sometimes, they just also had hot periods where people could look past the shlockier moments. WWF also had a lot of trash in that time, it was just usually more professionally done trash.
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Post by msc on Nov 17, 2022 9:33:48 GMT -5
He had three opponents and I couldn't name any of them. And the belt didn't fall, it was part of an angle on top of that. It's even worse than I remembered! ... So like is there any reason the timekeeper couldn't just ring the belt the second Bret got the belt down? Was WCW's viewership in late 1999 so bad that not even the people being paid to watch it were watching it? That might be my new number one, it's just so profoundly stupid. There was a point in late WCW where I swear their TV audience consisted of me, 2 guys in Georgia, and a sheepdog in Montana. On that show - Curt Hennig lost a career match by countout which meant he kept his career (as a fan I cheered but it made no sense), Bam Bam Bigelow lost a hardcore match by countout, Asya wrestled Rey Mysterio, Sid and Luger had a no contest in 90 seconds, Booker T drew a 3 on 1 handicap match, and Goldberg vs Sting (first time match?) lasted 133 seconds. Oh and Dustin Rhodes shot on the WWF and on the Seven gimmick, David Flair got a lot of time to stalk Kimberly, and in 3 hours of TV, the only people who gave a shit were Bret Hart and, of all people, Scott Hall, who had a 6 minute competitive match with Lash LeRoux. Which went nowhere. The next week after this? Pinata on a Poll match. Oh FFS. Also on that show, Curt Hennig's career match against Goldberg - actually a decent short match - which Hennig lost by SUBMISSION meaning he kept his job because it wasn't a pinfall loss. I, don't even... And on that show, again, one of the few people putting in any effort? The fallen off the wagon, completely burntout Scott Hall, who managed to sober long enough to do a 10 minute match where he put all of Benoit's offence over and lost by tap out. After interference, this is a Russo show after all. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Nov 17, 2022 9:51:56 GMT -5
Two pages in and nobody has mentioned KOTR 99? Austin vs Vince and Shane. Briefcase keeps getting pulled away from Austin by a still unnamed culprit. Yes I know it was Bossman but there was no follow up or anything after.
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Post by cassonova on Nov 17, 2022 9:55:04 GMT -5
Can't remember the exact finish, but didn't TNA have a match where the prize kept falling down and had to be reattached? This reminds of Smackdown 2 ladder matches. It was easy to grab the title and the ladder was already set up. Bell rings and I would sprint up the ladder and dive for the belt. If successful it was 6s max. |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffinâs Story on Nov 17, 2022 10:08:06 GMT -5
Two pages in and nobody has mentioned KOTR 99? Austin vs Vince and Shane. Briefcase keeps getting pulled away from Austin by a still unnamed culprit. Yes I know it was Bossman but there was no follow up or anything after. Did they not hint the next night or shortly thereafter that it was Bossman? I swear there was a promo with the Corporation, but my mind may be fuzzy. |
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Post by government mule on Nov 17, 2022 10:41:18 GMT -5
For me the worst thing to come out of a ladder match is the participants complete inability to remember how to climb a ladder - unless someone is at the top about to reach for the title/contract, then you've never seen some run up there so fast. Especially jarring when it's someone like Ricochet who should realistically win every ladder match he competes in - why can't he run up like that all the time?
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Nov 17, 2022 13:24:27 GMT -5
Two pages in and nobody has mentioned KOTR 99? Austin vs Vince and Shane. Briefcase keeps getting pulled away from Austin by a still unnamed culprit. Yes I know it was Bossman but there was no follow up or anything after. Did they not hint the next night or shortly thereafter that it was Bossman? I swear there was a promo with the Corporation, but my mind may be fuzzy. I haven't watched any of that stuff since it aired so I honestly don't remember. From what I've read on message boards for years though it was hinted that it was Bossman but never specifically said. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Nov 17, 2022 13:52:26 GMT -5
Did they not hint the next night or shortly thereafter that it was Bossman? I swear there was a promo with the Corporation, but my mind may be fuzzy. I haven't watched any of that stuff since it aired so I honestly don't remember. From what I've read on message boards for years though it was hinted that it was Bossman but never specifically said. They never said it, just heavily implied it. He was kicked out of the Corporation before KOTR, next night he was back in. |
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 17, 2022 13:55:48 GMT -5
I haven't watched any of that stuff since it aired so I honestly don't remember. From what I've read on message boards for years though it was hinted that it was Bossman but never specifically said. They never said it, just heavily implied it. He was kicked out of the Corporation before KOTR, next night he was back in. With the dick kick of a tease of having Bossman on that Raw come out to his face theme. |
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Post by Feyrhausen on Nov 17, 2022 14:19:07 GMT -5
Carmella winning the first womens' Money in the Bank via Ellsworth. Can't remember the exact finish, but didn't TNA have a match where the prize kept falling down and had to be reattached? One of the first Ultimate X matches. IIRC, Petey Williams won after catching the X after it fell down again. Happened multiple times. The first Ultimate X Match they had not tested it properly. The ropes were not attached together so when weight was put on one it would drop causing the belt to come unsnapped. They began strapping the ropes together at the center after that. The one Petey won was for a title shot. All the jostling just caused the X to come loose. They just had Petey catch it to get the match over with and did a redo on Impact. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Nov 17, 2022 14:22:58 GMT -5
They never said it, just heavily implied it. He was kicked out of the Corporation before KOTR, next night he was back in. With the dick kick of a tease of having Bossman on that Raw come out to his face theme. That's one of those random ass things I thought only I remembered! đ |
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Post by chrom on Nov 17, 2022 14:49:06 GMT -5
I haven't watched any of that stuff since it aired so I honestly don't remember. From what I've read on message boards for years though it was hinted that it was Bossman but never specifically said. They never said it, just heavily implied it. He was kicked out of the Corporation before KOTR, next night he was back in. If I remember, the board of directors stated that if any of the Corporation tried to interfere, than Vince and Shane would automatically lose, hence them kicking Bossman out of the group the week before and then rejoining the night after |
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Post by Chris Legentil -- Mind Freak on Nov 17, 2022 15:44:40 GMT -5
It's been mentioned a couple times but the first Ultimate X match is a hilarious train wreck. Bentley, Saban, and Petey working SO hard while the big fat X won't stop falling down until eventually Petey was there to catch it and that's how he won. I hope Petey wasn't even supposed to win and just said snooze you lose bitches.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Nov 17, 2022 16:13:40 GMT -5
It's been mentioned a couple times but the first Ultimate X match is a hilarious train wreck. Bentley, Saban, and Petey working SO hard while the big fat X won't stop falling down until eventually Petey was there to catch it and that's how he won. I hope Petey wasn't even supposed to win and just said snooze you lose bitches. First Ultimate X was Bentley (still going by Michael Shane), Sabin, and Kazarian, not Petey. Petey had yet to debut (at least as a regular). It was also not for an X but for the X division belt. Which kept coming down because the ropes were not secured together in the middle. So weight on one rope would stretch them apart unsnapping the belt. |
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Post by Chris Legentil -- Mind Freak on Nov 17, 2022 16:25:29 GMT -5
It's been mentioned a couple times but the first Ultimate X match is a hilarious train wreck. Bentley, Saban, and Petey working SO hard while the big fat X won't stop falling down until eventually Petey was there to catch it and that's how he won. I hope Petey wasn't even supposed to win and just said snooze you lose bitches. First Ultimate X was Bentley (still going by Michael Shane), Sabin, and Kazarian, not Petey. Petey had yet to debut (at least as a regular). It was also not for an X but for the X division belt. Which kept coming down because the ropes were not secured together in the middle. So weight on one rope would stretch them apart unsnapping the belt. AHHH thank you I had a feeling I was getting something wrong. There's been so many damn Ultimate X matches I think the official total in the present is like 50 something. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2022 16:36:32 GMT -5
Samoa Joe literally handing the title to Kurt Angle in a King of the Mountain match in 2009. What a wet fart of an ending. This. That Samoa Joe heel turn got me so mad. The Main Event Mafia form in part because of Joe and others âdisrespectingâ veterans. Then Joe turns around and joins them. I hated it then and now. |
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Post by XIII on Nov 17, 2022 16:41:52 GMT -5
... So like is there any reason the timekeeper couldn't just ring the belt the second Bret got the belt down? Was WCW's viewership in late 1999 so bad that not even the people being paid to watch it were watching it? That might be my new number one, it's just so profoundly stupid. There was a point in late WCW where I swear their TV audience consisted of me, 2 guys in Georgia, and a sheepdog in Montana. On that show - Curt Hennig lost a career match by countout which meant he kept his career (as a fan I cheered but it made no sense), Bam Bam Bigelow lost a hardcore match by countout, Asya wrestled Rey Mysterio, Sid and Luger had a no contest in 90 seconds, Booker T drew a 3 on 1 handicap match, and Goldberg vs Sting (first time match?) lasted 133 seconds. Oh and Dustin Rhodes shot on the WWF and on the Seven gimmick, David Flair got a lot of time to stalk Kimberly, and in 3 hours of TV, the only people who gave a shit were Bret Hart and, of all people, Scott Hall, who had a 6 minute competitive match with Lash LeRoux. Which went nowhere. The next week after this? Pinata on a Poll match. Oh FFS. Also on that show, Curt Hennig's career match against Goldberg - actually a decent short match - which Hennig lost by SUBMISSION meaning he kept his job because it wasn't a pinfall loss. I, don't even... And on that show, again, one of the few people putting in any effort? The fallen off the wagon, completely burntout Scott Hall, who managed to sober long enough to do a 10 minute match where he put all of Benoit's offence over and lost by tap out. After interference, this is a Russo show after all. Late era WCW was definitely on some other shit. I watched it all the way until the end and it was utter confusion every week. lol |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Nov 17, 2022 17:04:48 GMT -5
He had three opponents and I couldn't name any of them. And the belt didn't fall, it was part of an angle on top of that. It's even worse than I remembered! The best part is Goldbergâs âseriously?â face on the thumbnail. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 17, 2022 17:15:13 GMT -5
There was a point in late WCW where I swear their TV audience consisted of me, 2 guys in Georgia, and a sheepdog in Montana. On that show - Curt Hennig lost a career match by countout which meant he kept his career (as a fan I cheered but it made no sense), Bam Bam Bigelow lost a hardcore match by countout, Asya wrestled Rey Mysterio, Sid and Luger had a no contest in 90 seconds, Booker T drew a 3 on 1 handicap match, and Goldberg vs Sting (first time match?) lasted 133 seconds. Oh and Dustin Rhodes shot on the WWF and on the Seven gimmick, David Flair got a lot of time to stalk Kimberly, and in 3 hours of TV, the only people who gave a shit were Bret Hart and, of all people, Scott Hall, who had a 6 minute competitive match with Lash LeRoux. Which went nowhere. The next week after this? Pinata on a Poll match. Oh FFS. Also on that show, Curt Hennig's career match against Goldberg - actually a decent short match - which Hennig lost by SUBMISSION meaning he kept his job because it wasn't a pinfall loss. I, don't even... And on that show, again, one of the few people putting in any effort? The fallen off the wagon, completely burntout Scott Hall, who managed to sober long enough to do a 10 minute match where he put all of Benoit's offence over and lost by tap out. After interference, this is a Russo show after all. Late era WCW was definitely on some other shit. I watched it all the way until the end and it was utter confusion every week. lol Death Spiral WCW was a level of insanity wrestling will never organically achieve again. |
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