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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 26, 2023 12:40:12 GMT -5
It is funny how you can always tell he has a new movie coming out because he has a new sound bite about big franchise films. Because people keep asking him about franchise movies. It's not like he finds a journalist, asks if he's from an entertainment publication and speaking his mind, it's a scheduled time done with PR and the actual publications so that they can get something out promoting said film. But Martin doesn't have a baby brain, he can be a big boy who says, "I've commented on this subject multiple times. We don't need to discuss it as my views are the same."
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Post by eJm on Sept 26, 2023 12:42:32 GMT -5
But Martin doesn't have a baby brain, he can be a big boy who says, "I've commented on this subject multiple times." And hey, he can say that too. But then my response to that is he's not really saying anything he hasn't said before (if you read fully what he says rather than what's quoted) and not anything some of us have said here ourselves so I don't even get why it bothers people. It's not like he can actually do anything about what you go see. You want to go see The Marvels when it comes out? Go see it, he genuinely won't notice or care.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 26, 2023 12:58:57 GMT -5
I just want to chime in to say that, "There are people who think the only movies that exist are superhero movies," when only three of the top ten highest grossing movies of the year are comic book movies and the highest of them is #4 is a completely deranged take. To his broader point I'm just pretty whatever on but that aspect just struck me as completely insane.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 26, 2023 13:54:58 GMT -5
The issue, again, is that big amounts of money are being spent on tentpole movies where once upon a time, there was more variety and counter-programming that would go into seeing movies. The bigger the risk these movies take to just be what they are, the less money goes into getting other, smaller movies into cinemas to avoid going to streaming services where companies and studios won't promote them as much. There's no interest in those because they aren't going to make the same thing as those movies do. You're not wrong, the money being outlaid is ridiculous, but it's a little rich of Scorsese to be advocating support for Christopher Nolan movies over tentpole fare when Nolan hasn't made a modestly-budgeted movie in almost 20 years. It's not exactly looking out for the little guy. Hell, Scorsese's latest movie cost $200 million. It's hard to get behind a guy yelling "Support real cinema" when he's promoting a movie that costs as much as the stuff he's railing against.
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Post by Gremlin on Sept 26, 2023 14:14:43 GMT -5
#freechristophernolan
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 26, 2023 15:17:44 GMT -5
The issue, again, is that big amounts of money are being spent on tentpole movies where once upon a time, there was more variety and counter-programming that would go into seeing movies. The bigger the risk these movies take to just be what they are, the less money goes into getting other, smaller movies into cinemas to avoid going to streaming services where companies and studios won't promote them as much. There's no interest in those because they aren't going to make the same thing as those movies do. You're not wrong, the money being outlaid is ridiculous, but it's a little rich of Scorsese to be advocating support for Christopher Nolan movies over tentpole fare when Nolan hasn't made a modestly-budgeted movie in almost 20 years. It's not exactly looking out for the little guy. Hell, Scorsese's latest movie cost $200 million. It's hard to get behind a guy yelling "Support real cinema" when he's promoting a movie that costs as much as the stuff he's railing against. Almost like he's arguing in bad faith because he doesn't like the content.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Sept 26, 2023 15:52:25 GMT -5
You're not wrong, the money being outlaid is ridiculous, but it's a little rich of Scorsese to be advocating support for Christopher Nolan movies over tentpole fare when Nolan hasn't made a modestly-budgeted movie in almost 20 years. It's not exactly looking out for the little guy. Hell, Scorsese's latest movie cost $200 million. It's hard to get behind a guy yelling "Support real cinema" when he's promoting a movie that costs as much as the stuff he's railing against. Almost like he's arguing in bad faith because he doesn't like the content. The only supposedly "bad faith" Scorsese is really interested in are the movies he directed featuring Willem Dafoe. You know, the gangsta one.
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Post by eJm on Sept 26, 2023 15:59:05 GMT -5
The issue, again, is that big amounts of money are being spent on tentpole movies where once upon a time, there was more variety and counter-programming that would go into seeing movies. The bigger the risk these movies take to just be what they are, the less money goes into getting other, smaller movies into cinemas to avoid going to streaming services where companies and studios won't promote them as much. There's no interest in those because they aren't going to make the same thing as those movies do. You're not wrong, the money being outlaid is ridiculous, but it's a little rich of Scorsese to be advocating support for Christopher Nolan movies over tentpole fare when Nolan hasn't made a modestly-budgeted movie in almost 20 years. It's not exactly looking out for the little guy. Hell, Scorsese's latest movie cost $200 million. It's hard to get behind a guy yelling "Support real cinema" when he's promoting a movie that costs as much as the stuff he's railing against. I mean, if you ignore the advocacy he's done for film preservation and bringing in diversity for films because one of his films are higher budget than most, sure. Otherwise, I'm out of this thread. No real reason for me to discuss this further in here.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Sept 26, 2023 16:13:40 GMT -5
Honesty, it’s not even that big a deal to me what any directors think about major releases these days. I was just in kind of a crotchety mood recently.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 26, 2023 16:18:23 GMT -5
There's room in the cinematic world for superheroes, wiseguys, aliens, and dancing robot girls.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 26, 2023 16:52:36 GMT -5
I mean, if you ignore the advocacy he's done for film preservation and bringing in diversity for films because one of his films are higher budget than most, sure. Otherwise, I'm out of this thread. No real reason for me to discuss this further in here. Not ignoring, and I agree with most of what Scorsese stands for, just pointing out that of all the directors he could name to rally around he named the guy who a) doesn't need the support, having mastered the art of the prestige blockbuster, and b) commands the kind of budgets most "real cinema" releases can only dream of. It's like urging the public to shop at small businesses and suggesting Amazon. As for his movie being expensive, you specifically brought up skyrocketing budgets making studios gunshy about taking risks on less commercially-promising movies. Does anybody think Killers of the Flower Moon is going to make the half billion dollars it needs to break even? I don't doubt it's a great movie, but if it fails to make that money back it'll just reinforce the studios' beliefs that they need to pump more money into tentpoles and less money into the kind of movies Scorsese advocates. You can't really question why an Indiana Jones budget was so huge and not question why a period piece about a series of mostly-unsolved murders in 1920s Oklahoma is similarly overbudgeted. I'll reiterate, I don't have any issue with what Scorsese's arguing for, just the way he's arguing for it.
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Post by thechase on Sept 27, 2023 4:12:25 GMT -5
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Post by Renslayer on Oct 30, 2023 11:48:08 GMT -5
They mad as hell lol
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Oct 30, 2023 12:38:46 GMT -5
Proportionate Response? Nah.
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Post by lucas_lee on Oct 30, 2023 15:47:25 GMT -5
This is why I don't vibe with film bros. I'm a bit of a film snob myself and some of the reactions with comic book movies existing is borderline pretentious. I agree with the views about the digital curration and algorithms deciding media being bad but man a lot of the guys that speak out sound like they like the smell of their own farts.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Oct 31, 2023 3:10:24 GMT -5
I'm just sad that we'll never get to hear what Albert Pyun thought about Marvel films.
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Post by salz4life on Oct 31, 2023 7:40:13 GMT -5
I don't agree with Scorcese.... but if anyone has earned the right to have an opinion in theater, it's him.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 31, 2023 7:45:51 GMT -5
This is why I don't vibe with film bros. I'm a bit of a film snob myself and some of the reactions with comic book movies existing is borderline pretentious. I agree with the views about the digital curration and algorithms deciding media being bad but man a lot of the guys that speak out sound like they like the smell of their own farts. remember when the Cinema Snob was supposed to be an over the top parody? barely even looks that way anymore.
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Post by eJm on Oct 31, 2023 8:23:01 GMT -5
Endgame and Infinity War are two of the most successful movies of all time, Arrested Development is considered one of the best comedic pilots of all time and Community has pop culture relevance to this very day in a way very few sitcoms have, the f*** do you care if Scorsese has a problem with a franchise being helmed more by the head of the studio than the actual people doing the production legwork?
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Nov 1, 2023 19:51:52 GMT -5
Okay, I laughed out loud at the video.
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