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Post by buckethead on Dec 3, 2022 0:08:44 GMT -5
The first few months of the feud was okay. The logical conclusion should've been at Wrestlemania 13 in that six man street fight. After that, Ahmed should've gunned for the IC title that he never lost. It running any longer, especially with him joining and then getting booted out a month and a half later was really unnecessary and it killed whatever overness he had left. To add to this thread, The Gang Warz angle lasted like, 6 months which consisted of nothing more than pointless brawling that took up multiple PPVs and RAWS all throughout 97(and maybe into early 98). Also, what was the beef between The British Bulldog and The Warlord? They seemed to feud all throughout 1991 because? Apparently it started when Warlord claimed his Full Nelson was unbreakable and no one could escape from it. Davey did at WM7, and they feuded all throughout the year because of it. That sounds like hell on Earth...glad I missed it. It's basically a repeat of Hercules-Billy Jack Haynes.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 3, 2022 1:18:11 GMT -5
Ron Garvin and Greg Valentine feuded for a long ass time and then they both went nowhere afterwards.
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Post by Instant Classic on Dec 3, 2022 1:30:46 GMT -5
JAS vs BCC
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Post by chazraps on Dec 3, 2022 1:34:26 GMT -5
Scott Steiner and Test had an entire storyline arc that lasted like 8 months and the best thing about it was probably Steiner tripping off the ring apron at Bad Blood. Came here to say this. So absolutely beyond meaningless. Bad matches, bad promos, bad character development, and after Test acquired Steiner's services and they became a tag team, Stacy would deliberately cost them their matches despite still being aligned with Steiner and then Steiner got mad at her for costing them the tag titles and then it was dropped? 2003 Raw was so absolutely dire and for the sheer length this might have been the worst of it. Like, they wouldn't give Steiner time off to heal and get his dropfoot surgically repaired and nobody stepped in to mine anything new or compelling out of Test, other than getting Stacy on television (which could have been done with so many other superstars and was done to much greater effect shortly after by pairing her with Hurricane and Rosey) I don't know if anyone who started watching from 2004 and onward really can grasp how week-to-week bad this was as the B-story during the Reign of Terror. With only so much wrestling on television per week in wake of WCW and ECW folding, TNA still doing the PPV model and ROH being DVD only, wrestling fans in the united states and canada were really limited to just Raw and Smackdown and Raw was just sooooooooo bad but it was the only game in town.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 3, 2022 1:38:09 GMT -5
Apparently it started when Warlord claimed his Full Nelson was unbreakable and no one could escape from it. Davey did at WM7, and they feuded all throughout the year because of it. That sounds like hell on Earth...glad I missed it. I did a rewatch of WWF Superstars 91 last year on each episode's 30th anniversary and this feud was honestly better than it looks on paper, especially since they (no joke) hired a Queen Elizabeth impersonator to give weekly updates from Buckingham Palace on her thoughts on the feud as it developed. Early 90s silliness done right.
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Dec 3, 2022 14:40:13 GMT -5
One thing I'll say about Darren Young vs. Titus: Their second feud at least gave me one of my favorite "so bad, it's good" segments of all time. I laugh every f***ing time I see it. Enjoy.
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Post by Instant Classic on Dec 3, 2022 15:27:19 GMT -5
One thing I'll say about Darren Young vs. Titus: Their second feud at least gave me one of my favorite "so bad, it's good" segments of all time. I laugh every f***ing time I see it. Enjoy.Titus would be a huge star if he had good mic skills.
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Post by Big BosskMan on Dec 3, 2022 18:47:03 GMT -5
Or AEW Jericho vs anybody.
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 3, 2022 21:23:36 GMT -5
Or AEW Jericho vs anybody. I could understand why he was so heavily featured on AEW early on as the company just started, but it's definitely time for him to scale back as soon as he loses the ROH World title with all the roster additions since then.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Dec 4, 2022 4:05:47 GMT -5
Ahmed Johnson vs. The Nation. This, along with the later gang wars. The Ahmed feud was fairly entertaining, but I'm not sure what the point was. Especially when Ahmed joined the Nation.
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 21, 2023 11:24:12 GMT -5
I said it before on here in a familiar thread but Balor vs Bray felt like it never ended, then it didn't even end in match between them. Damn that meningitis. Although, we did eventually get Balor vs. Fiend, but I honestly forgot they had an issue before that and it was just a squash to get the new character over.
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 21, 2023 11:28:38 GMT -5
This is the one. Did Paul Jones actually ever feud with anyone else at that time in the NWA? The only reprieve Jones got from Valiant was when Rude and Fernandez won the tag titles from Rock N Roll Express. They briefly feuded with them and a feud with Road Warriors was brewing until Rude surprisingly bailed out of the blue to WWF. Edit I forgot the brief feud between Superstar Billy Graham and Jones Army in 85. Oh and don't forget Paul and Mighty Wilbur over Wilbur calling him Pudding Head and refusing to be a rulebreaker! Valiant was gone by then, I think, or just about gone...but when Jones got the Powers of Pain and they had the deal with the Road Warriors. Seems he did other things only when Valiant left. There was the spinoff to LOD vs. POP, LOD vs. Ivan/Assassin, then Russian Assassins vs. face Ivan and JYD (meant to be Nikita). Paul went out managing the Russians and they all just faded away. Didn't Rude and Wahoo have an issue as well? I don't think when Baron turned face, he got as much attention against the Army. Valiant vs. Jones was a silly midcard feud, but everyone was so over the top it is now impossible to not like for me. It's like the Road Runner cartoons too...why is a managerial genius wasting his brains on a funny looking bird/guy?
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 21, 2023 11:42:40 GMT -5
Hornswoggle and Chavo went on forever because reasons. Vince should have accepted the whole illegitimate son story was cursed after Benoit
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 21, 2023 14:42:05 GMT -5
Jericho vs X-Pac, fall 2000. The Kane coffee feud was actually a welcome respite.
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Post by CeilingFan on Nov 21, 2023 14:48:10 GMT -5
Tommy Rich vs Buzz Sawyer in 1983. Neither man's career was the same afterwards.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 21, 2023 14:48:22 GMT -5
Orange Cassidy vs Matt Hardy built to a hair vs hair match that never happened over the course of, at least, 6 months. Nobody really noticed how interminable it was as AEW was on an incredible hot streak at the time.
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Post by buckethead on Nov 21, 2023 15:30:06 GMT -5
The only reprieve Jones got from Valiant was when Rude and Fernandez won the tag titles from Rock N Roll Express. They briefly feuded with them and a feud with Road Warriors was brewing until Rude surprisingly bailed out of the blue to WWF. Edit I forgot the brief feud between Superstar Billy Graham and Jones Army in 85. Oh and don't forget Paul and Mighty Wilbur over Wilbur calling him Pudding Head and refusing to be a rulebreaker! Valiant was gone by then, I think, or just about gone...but when Jones got the Powers of Pain and they had the deal with the Road Warriors. Seems he did other things only when Valiant left. There was the spinoff to LOD vs. POP, LOD vs. Ivan/Assassin, then Russian Assassins vs. face Ivan and JYD (meant to be Nikita). Paul went out managing the Russians and they all just faded away. Didn't Rude and Wahoo have an issue as well? I don't think when Baron turned face, he got as much attention against the Army. Valiant vs. Jones was a silly midcard feud, but everyone was so over the top it is now impossible to not like for me. It's like the Road Runner cartoons too...why is a managerial genius wasting his brains on a funny looking bird/guy? I still can't watch it. I always fast forward when doing my annual rewatch of 80s NWA. The main problem is this... Other than that one chapter of the feud in 86 where it's hair vs hair, there's simply nothing at stake at any point. They tried to give it a boost with the Pistol Pez/Shaska turn but it didn't work. It was just filler for the TV programming and I feel sorry for anyone who had to endure it in person. It would've been so easy for Dusty/Crockett to make this feud more tolerable... In mid-late 85 when the National title was dropping in relevance and the B list started winning it..Taylor, Landell, Bart...you let Valiant win it, this infuriates Jones, and he sends his stable after the title. You could devote 5-6 months of the belt rotating back and forth between Valiant and Jones. I would've paid more attention to the feud under those circumstances.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Nov 21, 2023 19:36:05 GMT -5
Backstage... Tully Blanchard and Manny Fernandez.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 21, 2023 19:41:48 GMT -5
99% of WWE feuds since the Attitude Era.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Nov 22, 2023 0:06:19 GMT -5
That sounds like hell on Earth...glad I missed it. I did a rewatch of WWF Superstars 91 last year on each episode's 30th anniversary and this feud was honestly better than it looks on paper, especially since they (no joke) hired a Queen Elizabeth impersonator to give weekly updates from Buckingham Palace on her thoughts on the feud as it developed. Early 90s silliness done right. What an odd thing to do. Like, for Bret v. Bulldog, I would kind of get it, both are Commonwealth wrestlers, helps promote SummerSlam, but Bulldog v. Warlord?? Also, yeah, the matches were way better than buckethead is imagining, but they're still not amazing. Just better than being imagained.
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