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Post by ChitownKnight on Jan 14, 2023 15:23:12 GMT -5
With what we know about Vince now and how WCW’s product was on the upswing in 2001 (so I’ve heard), would it have been better if WCW won the war?
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Post by mc74 on Jan 14, 2023 15:42:12 GMT -5
I can't choose either in the poll because of the simple fact the conclusion of the war showed the consequences of what a monopoly does. The folks on the old DDT Digest WCW website talked about it happened and the mood over there was just like it was here a few nights ago. They talked about how bad a monopoly was going to be for the business as a whole, and they predicted the likely possibility of the WWF becoming complacent over the upcoming years with its booking. Sadly, that's exactly what happened.
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Post by XIII on Jan 14, 2023 16:06:14 GMT -5
If we’re talking WCW putting the WWF out of business, absolutely not. First off monopolies are bad for business and secondly, say what you want about Vince(and most of it is deserved), but WCW had zero leadership and if they had somehow won wrestling would have eventually fallen off of the map and taken a long time to recover…if it ever did.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 14, 2023 16:17:22 GMT -5
If we’re talking WCW putting the WWF out of business, absolutely not. First off monopolies are bad for business and secondly, say what you want about Vince(and most of it is deserved), but WCW had zero leadership and if they had somehow won wrestling would have eventually fallen off of the map and taken a long time to recover…if it ever did. Almost all of WCW's problems were self inflicted, WCW winning almost inevitably still leads to the show getting cancelled and WCW folding anyway.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jan 14, 2023 16:39:04 GMT -5
Really a difficult one to vote for. In some ways I'd have preferred it, and WCW had the most potential to do something different, considering where they were at the time.. but I don't think they'd have lasted much longer anyway, the way it was generally being run.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 14, 2023 17:28:28 GMT -5
Laurinaitis being head booker when they won the war might have led to an even worse environment for those in power to get away with abuse. If we’re talking WCW putting the WWF out of business, absolutely not. First off monopolies are bad for business and secondly, say what you want about Vince(and most of it is deserved), but WCW had zero leadership and if they had somehow won wrestling would have eventually fallen off of the map and taken a long time to recover…if it ever did. Yeah, they may have limped on TNA style but I probably wouldn't be a wrestling fan anymore and suspect many others wouldn't be either (especially as this timeline would rob us of wm17). Although talking of TNA who knows what alternative companies may have sprung up with Jarrett still employed. Small chance a genuine rival would emerge and become market leader but unlikely if there'd be less trust from TV companies/partners with the previous top 3 companies going bust/downhill, impossible to know though.
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Post by sfvega on Jan 14, 2023 19:25:05 GMT -5
No. Turner and company were inept, so chances are they still torpedo wrestling after the merger. Come to think of it, they're the only ones who could have f***ed up the merging of the two companies more than Vince did. As much as I really loved WCW, it was not long for this world regardless.
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Post by tafkaga on Jan 14, 2023 21:34:52 GMT -5
Does 'winning the war' necessitate one company going out of business? If Nitro had been cancelled but WCW continued, would that not have also constituted winning the war?
I do wish Nitro had continued to dominate Raw, because that would mean other television networks would have been interested in WCW, which would have meant that Bischoff and Fusient or somebody else would have bought the company and it would have continued instead of getting picked up by Vince simply because nobody else wanted it and then subsequently buried.
So, I guess my answer is yes, even though I don't think 'the war' should have ever meant one company ceasing to do business. That didn't happen because WWF beat WCW. It happened because Ted Turner got kicked out of his own company.
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Jan 16, 2023 15:34:16 GMT -5
My brain says no, WCW/turner management would have fumbled the ball and somehow killed wrestling completely, but my heart is Dewey Cox’s dad yelling WRONG KID DIED!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 15:57:39 GMT -5
There are two major companies in 2023. I'm fine with how things happened.
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Post by saneiac on Jan 16, 2023 21:18:16 GMT -5
With what we know about Vince now and how WCW’s product was on the upswing in 2001 (so I’ve heard), would it have been better if WCW won the war? WCW ended in March 2001, so there wasn't much time for an upswing there, but in my memory the only good thing going for the entire final 12 months was the Booker vs Steiner feud and Steiner as champ in general.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 16, 2023 21:44:43 GMT -5
No f***ing way. lol
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 16, 2023 23:52:16 GMT -5
No, because WCW would still have collapsed.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 17, 2023 0:09:47 GMT -5
I mean if I had to pick one, I'd say so because I really prefer the WCW style product over the WWE when you control for good and bad periods. Like I can go and watch a 1993 Saturday Night show and have a blast and I can't say the same for Superstars or RAW from that era. But obviously the ideal is two strong companies like we have now and I feel like AEW has filled a lot of the needs of what WCW offered without a lot of the baggage.
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