MolotovMocktail
Grimlock
Home of the 5-time, 5-time, 5-time, 5-time 5-time Super Bowl Champion 49ers-and Wrestlemania 31
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 28, 2023 2:47:07 GMT -5
A cautionary tale for what happens when promoters try to be one of the boys and let the inmates run the asylum.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jan 28, 2023 5:10:03 GMT -5
What will Garrett Bischoff's legacy be? Future NWA World Champion and the man who slayed the monster known as Tyrus?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 29, 2023 5:32:45 GMT -5
What will Garrett Bischoff's legacy be? Future NWA World Champion and the man who slayed the monster known as Tyrus? Another Erik Watts, big guy with a decent look pushed way before they were ready and rather than make them a star, it ultimately killed their career. He could have been something had he entered the WWE developmental system.
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Cranjis McBasketball
Crow T. Robot
Knew what the hell that thing was supposed to be
Peace Love and Nothing But
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 29, 2023 6:29:59 GMT -5
Stole one good idea, hit a grandslam with it, then was too busy waving to the crowd to ever cross home plate. Now spends his life talking about how never crossing home plate was the fault of AOL/Time Warner and nothing he did at all.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jan 29, 2023 8:57:22 GMT -5
Stole one good idea, hit a grandslam with it, then was too busy waving to the crowd to ever cross home plate. Now spends his life talking about how never crossing home plate was the fault of AOL/Time Warner and nothing he did at all. I like how this board just assumes the AOL/Time Warner merger had nothing to do wtih Bischoff failing. Bischoff overcame a company that was in its very culture, a red-headed step child that their dad Ted loved, but their new step mom and her family disowned because he wasn't one of them. The only way it could have worked is if Eric owned all of it and was able to lead at the top. He felt other guys knew better, which is understandable. Vince was the opposite. The buck always stopped with him and he made himself the end all, be all to everything. Eric was stuck with the North Tower and eventually a company who at its core was corrupt with executives that served their own agendas. Creative doesn't necessarily kill a million dollar company as much as the people running it.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 29, 2023 10:21:11 GMT -5
complicated. on the one hand he made WCW a legit global force in a way none of his predecessors ever could. as an on air talent he's in the running with only Vince for "best heel authority figure ever". on the other hand, while the Hogan contract he helped set up (along with the ones he got Kevin Nash and Scott Hall) helped get WCW to the dance, those contracts eventually became an albatross around WCW's neck, for multiple reasons. Eric's inability to ever say "no" to anyone (sometimes because of contracts, sometimes down to his personality) likewise gave him the "ATM Eric" nickname that he'll probably never shake. and as soon as he didn't have Ted Turner giving him a seemingly endless sum of money any more he had no idea how to adapt. it's true that the death of WCW was ultimately Jamie Kellner's decision but Eric Bischoff was a big part of it.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 29, 2023 11:28:59 GMT -5
He would have made a great politician. He could destroy most, if not all competitors with the way he talks. He is extremely smart, he knows how to get to the weaknesses of other people who are unsure of themselves. He knows how to read a situation and use it to his advantage. There's a reason he did so much better than the previous people in his position with WCW. In the Starrcast panel, RD even said he wasn't good at talking and with that, whether he was right or wrong with his facts, Eric beats him right then and there-when you have your opponent saying they aren't as good at something as you are.
I do wonder if one of the reasons he was so intent on destroying WWF/Vince in the 90s was because Vince didn't hire him around 1990 or so. It's a stretch but some people just hold on to even small grudges for so long.
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Zone Was Wrong
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Currently living off the high that AEW brings every Wednesday and Friday
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jan 29, 2023 12:17:22 GMT -5
Mixed bag of a character. Revolutionized wrestling in a lot of ways (bringing in international stars, cross promoting with other companies, guaranteed contracts, etc) but also let "the boys" influence his decisions and refused to pivot. He was responsible for WCW getting as big as it was but was also responsible for its decline. Wouldn't say he killed it, but he definitely didn't leave it in a good place.
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tafkaga
Samurai Cop
the Dogfather
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Post by tafkaga on Jan 30, 2023 10:46:13 GMT -5
He would have made a great politician. He could destroy most, if not all competitors with the way he talks. He is extremely smart, he knows how to get to the weaknesses of other people who are unsure of themselves. He knows how to read a situation and use it to his advantage. There's a reason he did so much better than the previous people in his position with WCW. In the Starrcast panel, RD even said he wasn't good at talking and with that, whether he was right or wrong with his facts, Eric beats him right then and there-when you have your opponent saying they aren't as good at something as you are. I do wonder if one of the reasons he was so intent on destroying WWF/Vince in the 90s was because Vince didn't hire him around 1990 or so. It's a stretch but some people just hold on to even small grudges for so long. I don't think he wanted to hurt WWF because of a grudge. With Eric, I think he just loved the feeling of being a big player rubbing elbows with a man like Ted Turner, who he greatly admired and respected. He was ambitious and confident enough in his abilities to get Ted's attention, and I'm sure that successfully proving himself to a man like Ted Turner was massive for Eric's ego and just magnified his ambitions. Nitro was a success. WCW was profitable. Vince was no longer top dog. What else is there to accomplish? Be the last man standing.
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Ozman
Samurai Cop
Chi-Town!!!
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Post by Ozman on Jan 31, 2023 19:25:06 GMT -5
Nitro and the NWO.
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