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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 14, 2023 8:13:13 GMT -5
Good for the hundreds of thousands of people, I guess? Looked clear as day to me and if a ref saw a similar or worse play earlier in the game, I assume they would’ve called it then too. The player that was penalized said it was a hold. It’s a penalty. It’s a bullshit call because over the course of this past season it’s a call that hasn’t been called, especially late in the fourth quarter. If it’s 15 yards downfield it might get called this season, but not within 5 yards. The refs called that differently at the worst time to do so. It would’ve most likely been a touchdown without the penalty so this wasn’t some inconsequential hold.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Feb 14, 2023 8:41:05 GMT -5
Okay, I want to say something slightly off-topic but only because I am so damn tired of hearing about it.
The Eagles did not face a team that didn't have a QB. The entire story of the Niners heading into the NFC Championship was Brock Purdy and their defense. Purdy started the game and he got injured during the game by a completely legal play. He didn't scramble and go down with a non-contact injury or get sick and miss the game. Purdy started and got taken out by the Eagle's pass rush. It is not our fault that the Niner's didn't have a better back up (which might have been a good idea since you're on QB #3 at that point).
Like, I don't know what people want from Philly. The Niner's O-line didn't keep Purdy safe and he got hurt. That's on San Francisco, not Philly.
I just so tired of the narrative that makes it sounds like the Niner's came into the game without a QB at all. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think much changes in the game. Would it have been competetive, probably, but the defense still couldn't stop the Philly offense effectively and gave up 31 points. And that's with the Eagles barely passing in the second half.
If you're upset about it not being a better game, blame Kyle Shanahan for blocking Hassan Reddick with a back-up TE.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 14, 2023 8:48:10 GMT -5
It’s a bullshit call because over the course of this past season it’s a call that hasn’t been called, especially late in the fourth quarter. If it’s 15 yards downfield it might get called this season, but not within 5 yards. The refs called that differently at the worst time to do so. It would’ve most likely been a touchdown without the penalty so this wasn’t some inconsequential hold. You are exaggerating. Juju was not impeded in any appreciable way and the pass wasn’t close. Without that minor contact it would have been an Incomplete pass. Besides, as I said before it’s not a penalty that has been called all season, particularly within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. That doesn’t even touch on the fact that during the last 4 minutes of games this year the refs have only called the most egregious penalties on the defense. Illegal contact? Basically not a thing during the last 4 minutes this year. Holding? Unless a jersey gets stretched a foot or so or you are literally tackling someone while they run routes they didn’t call it at that point in games. Pass interference? Yeah, they were pretty lax about that as well.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 14, 2023 9:12:26 GMT -5
Okay, I want to say something slightly off-topic but only because I am so damn tired of hearing about it. The Eagles did not face a team that didn't have a QB. The entire story of the Niners heading into the NFC Championship was Brock Purdy and their defense. Purdy started the game and he got injured during the game by a completely legal play. He didn't scramble and go down with a non-contact injury or get sick and miss the game. Purdy started and got taken out by the Eagle's pass rush. It is not our fault that the Niner's didn't have a better back up (which might have been a good idea since you're on QB #3 at that point). Like, I don't know what people want from Philly. The Niner's O-line didn't keep Purdy safe and he got hurt. That's on San Francisco, not Philly. I just so tired of the narrative that makes it sounds like the Niner's came into the game without a QB at all. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think much changes in the game. Would it have been competetive, probably, but the defense still couldn't stop the Philly offense effectively and gave up 31 points. And that's with the Eagles barely passing in the second half. If you're upset about it not being a better game, blame Kyle Shanahan for blocking Hassan Reddick with a back-up TE. I take the point to an extent. However 'I don't think much changes in the game' is a deeply absurd thing to say. The injury to Purdy is neither all bad luck or all a consequence of the Eagles being better - they didn't call up the old 'hit the guy in his arm while he's throwing and blow out his elbow' play. They didn't mean to hurt Purdy and most sacks don't end in devastating injury. It's not the Eagles fault, and they may well have won anyway, but it's silly to try and argue that it made no difference to how things went.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Feb 14, 2023 9:50:25 GMT -5
Okay, I want to say something slightly off-topic but only because I am so damn tired of hearing about it. The Eagles did not face a team that didn't have a QB. The entire story of the Niners heading into the NFC Championship was Brock Purdy and their defense. Purdy started the game and he got injured during the game by a completely legal play. He didn't scramble and go down with a non-contact injury or get sick and miss the game. Purdy started and got taken out by the Eagle's pass rush. It is not our fault that the Niner's didn't have a better back up (which might have been a good idea since you're on QB #3 at that point). Like, I don't know what people want from Philly. The Niner's O-line didn't keep Purdy safe and he got hurt. That's on San Francisco, not Philly. I just so tired of the narrative that makes it sounds like the Niner's came into the game without a QB at all. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think much changes in the game. Would it have been competetive, probably, but the defense still couldn't stop the Philly offense effectively and gave up 31 points. And that's with the Eagles barely passing in the second half. If you're upset about it not being a better game, blame Kyle Shanahan for blocking Hassan Reddick with a back-up TE. I take the point to an extent. However 'I don't think much changes in the game' is a deeply absurd thing to say. The injury to Purdy is neither all bad luck or all a consequence of the Eagles being better - they didn't call up the old 'hit the guy in his arm while he's throwing and blow out his elbow' play. They didn't mean to hurt Purdy and most sacks don't end in devastating injury. It's not the Eagles fault, and they may well have won anyway, but it's silly to try and argue that it made no difference to how things went. Let me clarify. Obviously, Purdy being out effects the game and what the Niner's strategy was. I just don't believe it effects the final outcome of the game. To me, the Niner's O-line was not a good match-up against the Eagles defense. Given how Reddick leveled Johnson almost as soon as he came into the game too, I feel like whoever played QB for San Francisco was going to be running for their lives. Purdy, as impressive as he was leading up to the game, was probably going to struggle with constant pressure in his face. I do agree to that Purdy's injury was a freak accident. I'm not saying that the game isn't closer if he plays the entire way. But for people to act like his absence wasn't a direct cause of the Eagle's talented pass rush pisses me off to no end. The Eagles had an easier time winning the game because they managed to take Purdy out. That's a direct cause of their pass rush and I feel like that gets glossed over. A few years back, Carson Wentz got a concussion from Jadeveon Clowney in the first or second drive during a Wildcard game against the Seahawks (to me, it looks like a dirty hit, but whatever). We had to send in Josh McCown to replace him and almost won. No one was talking about how the Seahawks had an easy game or anything like that afterwards, despite Wentz being our best player at the time. I apologize if this sounds like sour grapes. I just hate the fact that my team, who just lost the Super Bowl by a last second field goal to the new NFL dynasty, is essentially not getting credit for their success this season. Like I know that their schedule was kind of soft, but we still played in the best division in the NFL. Including the actual NFC playoffs they went 8-1 against 2022 playoff teams with the only loss coming to the Cowboys when Hurts was out. It's just so frustrating because even if Philly had beated Kansas City they were never going to be given full credit for their success this year.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Feb 14, 2023 9:54:57 GMT -5
Also, one more quick thing, why does Kyle Shanahan not get more crap for essentially just giving up and putting Purdy back into the game?
Even as an Eagles fan, I'm baffled that the didn't try to run some sort of Wildcat offense with McCaffrey for more than a single play. Leaving Purdy out there and trying nothing new was basically throwing in the towel.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 14, 2023 10:00:58 GMT -5
It would’ve most likely been a touchdown without the penalty so this wasn’t some inconsequential hold. You are exaggerating. Juju was not impeded in any appreciable way and the pass wasn’t close. Without that minor contact it would have been an Incomplete pass. Besides, as I said before it’s not a penalty that has been called all season, particularly within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. That doesn’t even touch on the fact that during the last 4 minutes of games this year the refs have only called the most egregious penalties on the defense. Illegal contact? Basically not a thing during the last 4 minutes this year. Holding? Unless a jersey gets stretched a foot or so or you are literally tackling someone while they run routes they didn’t call it at that point in games. Pass interference? Yeah, they were pretty lax about that as well. I think we’ll have to disagree here, as I think he was 100% impeded on the play. On a whip route like that, without the initial hold he wouldn’t have even been able to get that second arm on his side which also slowed him down. The initial hold stopped Juju’s momentum. There’s also the fact that the hold occurred before Mahomes threw it so I assume Mahomes saw the hold and threw it to the end zone where it wouldn’t be picked knowing they may get that call.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 14, 2023 10:30:25 GMT -5
I take the point to an extent. However 'I don't think much changes in the game' is a deeply absurd thing to say. The injury to Purdy is neither all bad luck or all a consequence of the Eagles being better - they didn't call up the old 'hit the guy in his arm while he's throwing and blow out his elbow' play. They didn't mean to hurt Purdy and most sacks don't end in devastating injury. It's not the Eagles fault, and they may well have won anyway, but it's silly to try and argue that it made no difference to how things went. Let me clarify. Obviously, Purdy being out effects the game and what the Niner's strategy was. I just don't believe it effects the final outcome of the game. To me, the Niner's O-line was not a good match-up against the Eagles defense. Given how Reddick leveled Johnson almost as soon as he came into the game too, I feel like whoever played QB for San Francisco was going to be running for their lives. Purdy, as impressive as he was leading up to the game, was probably going to struggle with constant pressure in his face. I do agree to that Purdy's injury was a freak accident. I'm not saying that the game isn't closer if he plays the entire way. But for people to act like his absence wasn't a direct cause of the Eagle's talented pass rush pisses me off to no end. The Eagles had an easier time winning the game because they managed to take Purdy out. That's a direct cause of their pass rush and I feel like that gets glossed over. A few years back, Carson Wentz got a concussion from Jadeveon Clowney in the first or second drive during a Wildcard game against the Seahawks (to me, it looks like a dirty hit, but whatever). We had to send in Josh McCown to replace him and almost won. No one was talking about how the Seahawks had an easy game or anything like that afterwards, despite Wentz being our best player at the time. I apologize if this sounds like sour grapes. I just hate the fact that my team, who just lost the Super Bowl by a last second field goal to the new NFL dynasty, is essentially not getting credit for their success this season. Like I know that their schedule was kind of soft, but we still played in the best division in the NFL. Including the actual NFC playoffs they went 8-1 against 2022 playoff teams with the only loss coming to the Cowboys when Hurts was out. It's just so frustrating because even if Philly had beated Kansas City they were never going to be given full credit for their success this year. I definitely agree that it was overlooked in aftermath as though it was a total fluke that Purdy got hurt. It's like in boxing, there was a fight a few years ago which was stopped because one guy had a fractured orbital bone. For years afterwards it was brought up by his team and promoter as some freak accident that cost him the fight, rather than something that happened as a direct consequence of being punched in the face by his opponent. But you don't have to look very far that see that however that game started (and there was bad blown call in favor of the Eagles in there too) it was more than possible that the 49ers could've come back. Literally the next game the Eagles played their defense collapsed in the second half and gave up nearly 40 points. Ultimately, in any NFL season more than one team is good enough to win the Super Bowl. If they replayed the playoffs you'd easily have times where the Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers, Bills and Bengals all won. It's totally crazy how much people put into one-off games and the narratives that come off the back of it.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Feb 14, 2023 11:01:57 GMT -5
Let me clarify. Obviously, Purdy being out effects the game and what the Niner's strategy was. I just don't believe it effects the final outcome of the game. To me, the Niner's O-line was not a good match-up against the Eagles defense. Given how Reddick leveled Johnson almost as soon as he came into the game too, I feel like whoever played QB for San Francisco was going to be running for their lives. Purdy, as impressive as he was leading up to the game, was probably going to struggle with constant pressure in his face. I do agree to that Purdy's injury was a freak accident. I'm not saying that the game isn't closer if he plays the entire way. But for people to act like his absence wasn't a direct cause of the Eagle's talented pass rush pisses me off to no end. The Eagles had an easier time winning the game because they managed to take Purdy out. That's a direct cause of their pass rush and I feel like that gets glossed over. A few years back, Carson Wentz got a concussion from Jadeveon Clowney in the first or second drive during a Wildcard game against the Seahawks (to me, it looks like a dirty hit, but whatever). We had to send in Josh McCown to replace him and almost won. No one was talking about how the Seahawks had an easy game or anything like that afterwards, despite Wentz being our best player at the time. I apologize if this sounds like sour grapes. I just hate the fact that my team, who just lost the Super Bowl by a last second field goal to the new NFL dynasty, is essentially not getting credit for their success this season. Like I know that their schedule was kind of soft, but we still played in the best division in the NFL. Including the actual NFC playoffs they went 8-1 against 2022 playoff teams with the only loss coming to the Cowboys when Hurts was out. It's just so frustrating because even if Philly had beated Kansas City they were never going to be given full credit for their success this year. I definitely agree that it was overlooked in aftermath as though it was a total fluke that Purdy got hurt. It's like in boxing, there was a fight a few years ago which was stopped because one guy had a fractured orbital bone. For years afterwards it was brought up by his team and promoter as some freak accident that cost him the fight, rather than something that happened as a direct consequence of being punched in the face by his opponent. But you don't have to look very far that see that however that game started (and there was bad blown call in favor of the Eagles in there too) it was more than possible that the 49ers could've come back. Literally the next game the Eagles played their defense collapsed in the second half and gave up nearly 40 points. Ultimately, in any NFL season more than one team is good enough to win the Super Bowl. If they replayed the playoffs you'd easily have times where the Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers, Bills and Bengals all won. It's totally crazy how much people put into one-off games and the narratives that come off the back of it. That I will agree with. One of the reasons the NFL is so fun is because of the "Any Given Sunday" aspect of it. It's so hard to create a great time for more than a few years at a time and even harder to have consistent success (unless the teams in your division absolutely suck). There are definitely scenarios where Cincy doesn't lose their entire O-line and beat the Chiefs or that Jacksonville gets hot and knocks off a hurt Maholmes. I was nervous of facing the Giants in the playoffs because they are so damned lucky when they get that 6th seed. As for the blown call, yes, Smith absolutely didn't catch it. But when you see a 30+ yard conversion, on forth down, in the first half and the receiver jumps out and has his team sprint to the line - you should probably just use a challenge or at least call a time out. That's way more on Shanahan then the refs to me. To me, it should be common sense when a WR gets up and is like "run to the f***ing line and snap the ball" that something is probably amiss. But who knows what a catch even is at this point lol EDIT: By the way stoptheclocks, who are you a fan of? I don't believe that I know.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 14, 2023 11:03:24 GMT -5
Good for the hundreds of thousands of people, I guess? Looked clear as day to me and if a ref saw a similar or worse play earlier in the game, I assume they would’ve called it then too. The player that was penalized said it was a hold. It’s a penalty. It’s a bullshit call because over the course of this past season it’s a call that hasn’t been called, especially late in the fourth quarter. If it’s 15 yards downfield it might get called this season, but not within 5 yards. The refs called that differently at the worst time to do so. What do people want here, he got beat so he grabbed preventing the score? Just let it go so the Eagles get 2 minutes to go win?
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Feb 14, 2023 11:22:46 GMT -5
It’s a bullshit call because over the course of this past season it’s a call that hasn’t been called, especially late in the fourth quarter. If it’s 15 yards downfield it might get called this season, but not within 5 yards. The refs called that differently at the worst time to do so. What do people want here, he got beat so he grabbed preventing the score? Just let it go so the Eagles get 2 minutes to go win? I think the problem most people have with it is that type of penalty was only called a single time during the game at the literal most crucial point of the game. It's not about letting the Eagles getaway with holding but there are definitely other plays like that (of which I'm sure we'll see when the All-22 footage comes out) that weren't called. Mix in the fact that there was an obvious block in back on the Skyy Moore punt return and a missed holding call near the end of the AFC Championship, it starts to create the narrative that the Chiefs are getting really favorable calls from the refs to bail them out. Do I think that's true? No, but it definitely gives off a bad look. Additionally, considering that in last year's Super Bowl a game winning drive got extended because of penalties (including a defensive holding), people are rightly frustrated that the refs are constantly involved in the biggest moments of the game.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 14, 2023 11:26:49 GMT -5
What do people want here, he got beat so he grabbed preventing the score? Just let it go so the Eagles get 2 minutes to go win? I think the problem most people have with it is that type of penalty was only called a single time during the game at the literal most crucial point of the game. It's not about letting the Eagles getaway with holding but there are definitely other plays like that (of which I'm sure we'll see when the All-22 footage comes out) that weren't called. Mix in the fact that there was an obvious block in back on the Skyy Moore punt return and a missed holding call near the end of the AFC Championship, it starts to create the narrative that the Chiefs are getting really favorable calls from the refs to bail them out. Do I think that's true? No, but it definitely gives off a bad look. Additionally, considering that in last year's Super Bowl a game winning drive got extended because of penalties (including a defensive holding), people are rightly frustrated that the refs are constantly involved in the biggest moments of the game. Oh Mahomes scramble you had Joe Thomas telling everyone they were dumb there's no holds on that play, multiple former NFL OL saying there's nothing there so that was much ado about nothing.. The punt return is always iffy what gets called, the Bengals player literally seizing up and falling when he saw a Chief behind him probably didn't help with the official.
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Post by BRV on Feb 14, 2023 11:34:36 GMT -5
Remember that episode of "King of the Hill" when Hank and the guys have to take over for Arlen High School groundskeeper Smitty after his abilities falter, causing Arlen to forfeit a game due to shoddy field conditions?
On an unrelated note, 94-year-old groundskeeper George Toma - who has maintained every field in Super Bowl history - is retiring after Super Bowl LVII.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 14, 2023 11:59:10 GMT -5
What do people want here, he got beat so he grabbed preventing the score? Just let it go so the Eagles get 2 minutes to go win? I think the problem most people have with it is that type of penalty was only called a single time during the game at the literal most crucial point of the game. It's not about letting the Eagles getaway with holding but there are definitely other plays like that (of which I'm sure we'll see when the All-22 footage comes out) that weren't called. Mix in the fact that there was an obvious block in back on the Skyy Moore punt return and a missed holding call near the end of the AFC Championship, it starts to create the narrative that the Chiefs are getting really favorable calls from the refs to bail them out. Do I think that's true? No, but it definitely gives off a bad look. Additionally, considering that in last year's Super Bowl a game winning drive got extended because of penalties (including a defensive holding), people are rightly frustrated that the refs are constantly involved in the biggest moments of the game. The Chiefs ALWAYS get away with holds, crackback blocks, and blocks in the back whenever Mahomes scrambles. It's true that is the case for a few others (Allen and Jackson most notably), but sometimes I find myself flabbergasted at what KC gets away with. BTW, yes, my objection isn't that the call was not technically a hold. It was. My objection is that it wasn't the type of hold that generally got called this season and definitely never got called late in a game. As long as the refs are consistent, I don't care if they overlook minor violations of the rules. It's not flag football, after all, so there are always going to be some grabbing and bumping going on. I just want the outrageous ones called, which that was not.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 14, 2023 12:01:17 GMT -5
I think the problem most people have with it is that type of penalty was only called a single time during the game at the literal most crucial point of the game. It's not about letting the Eagles getaway with holding but there are definitely other plays like that (of which I'm sure we'll see when the All-22 footage comes out) that weren't called. Mix in the fact that there was an obvious block in back on the Skyy Moore punt return and a missed holding call near the end of the AFC Championship, it starts to create the narrative that the Chiefs are getting really favorable calls from the refs to bail them out. Do I think that's true? No, but it definitely gives off a bad look. Additionally, considering that in last year's Super Bowl a game winning drive got extended because of penalties (including a defensive holding), people are rightly frustrated that the refs are constantly involved in the biggest moments of the game. The Chiefs ALWAYS get away with holds, crackback blocks, and blocks in the back whenever Mahomes scrambles. It's true that is the case for a few others (Allen and Jackson most notably), but sometimes I find myself flabbergasted at what KC gets away with. BTW, yes, my objection isn't that the call was not technically a hold. It was. My objection is that it wasn't the type of hold that generally got called this season and definitely never got called late in a game. As long as the refs are consistent, I don't care if they overlook minor violations of the rules. It's not flag football, after all, so there are always going to be some grabbing and bumping going on. I just want the outrageous ones called, which that was not. Chiefs coaching advantage FORCED the call. They just aced the Eagles secondary twice on whip routes. And JJSS sure looked like he was about to make the third edition of it. Those officials watched the Eagles be completely unable to cover that route legally all night and now they see a clear hold as JuJu is coming out of his break. And what nobody's mentioning when they say "did the hold impede" - look what it did from the rear angle for Bradberry. Without that hold, Bradberry is roasted. From that side-ish angle you can't see it as much but from the rear angle you can see that the hold is HOW Bradberry was able to get his momentum shifted and stay with JJSS. When a guy's about to get waxed for a 3rd time because the secondary has been playing aggressive all night and has been toasted by that same route 2 previous times, how can you NOT throw the flag there? It wasn't just a situation where the ref threw a flag that hadn't been thrown to that point, he threw the flag because Reid and company forced their hands through two previous brilliant calls that put the officials on notice that these dudes simply cannot play the style they're playing and cover that route.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 14, 2023 12:06:03 GMT -5
I definitely agree that it was overlooked in aftermath as though it was a total fluke that Purdy got hurt. It's like in boxing, there was a fight a few years ago which was stopped because one guy had a fractured orbital bone. For years afterwards it was brought up by his team and promoter as some freak accident that cost him the fight, rather than something that happened as a direct consequence of being punched in the face by his opponent. But you don't have to look very far that see that however that game started (and there was bad blown call in favor of the Eagles in there too) it was more than possible that the 49ers could've come back. Literally the next game the Eagles played their defense collapsed in the second half and gave up nearly 40 points. Ultimately, in any NFL season more than one team is good enough to win the Super Bowl. If they replayed the playoffs you'd easily have times where the Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers, Bills and Bengals all won. It's totally crazy how much people put into one-off games and the narratives that come off the back of it. That I will agree with. One of the reasons the NFL is so fun is because of the "Any Given Sunday" aspect of it. It's so hard to create a great time for more than a few years at a time and even harder to have consistent success (unless the teams in your division absolutely suck). There are definitely scenarios where Cincy doesn't lose their entire O-line and beat the Chiefs or that Jacksonville gets hot and knocks off a hurt Maholmes. I was nervous of facing the Giants in the playoffs because they are so damned lucky when they get that 6th seed. As for the blown call, yes, Smith absolutely didn't catch it. But when you see a 30+ yard conversion, on forth down, in the first half and the receiver jumps out and has his team sprint to the line - you should probably just use a challenge or at least call a time out. That's way more on Shanahan then the refs to me. To me, it should be common sense when a WR gets up and is like "run to the f***ing line and snap the ball" that something is probably amiss. But who knows what a catch even is at this point lol EDIT: By the way stoptheclocks, who are you a fan of? I don't believe that I know. The perpetually disappointing Dallas Cowboys.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Feb 14, 2023 12:12:42 GMT -5
That I will agree with. One of the reasons the NFL is so fun is because of the "Any Given Sunday" aspect of it. It's so hard to create a great time for more than a few years at a time and even harder to have consistent success (unless the teams in your division absolutely suck). There are definitely scenarios where Cincy doesn't lose their entire O-line and beat the Chiefs or that Jacksonville gets hot and knocks off a hurt Maholmes. I was nervous of facing the Giants in the playoffs because they are so damned lucky when they get that 6th seed. As for the blown call, yes, Smith absolutely didn't catch it. But when you see a 30+ yard conversion, on forth down, in the first half and the receiver jumps out and has his team sprint to the line - you should probably just use a challenge or at least call a time out. That's way more on Shanahan then the refs to me. To me, it should be common sense when a WR gets up and is like "run to the f***ing line and snap the ball" that something is probably amiss. But who knows what a catch even is at this point lol EDIT: By the way stoptheclocks, who are you a fan of? I don't believe that I know. The perpetually disappointing Dallas Cowboys. Ha, then this is probably the most polite discord I've ever had with a Cowboys fan. My best friend through most of my childhood was a huge Cowboys fan and he f***ing hated me during the Eagles NFC dominance during the early/mid 2000s. Which is especially funny because I never really talk a lot of trash.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2023 13:58:48 GMT -5
Eh, Eagles punter damn near fell on his ass because of the shit field. You want bullshit? That's f***ing bullshit. That short punt is a big deal for the game and, had it happened to the Chiefs, it would be bullshit too. Garbage field should not be a factor in the Super Bowl when you had that much time to prepare and in a three point game, that was a factor.
You also have your MVP playing on one leg. You're damn fortunate that he didn't screw his leg up even more on the field and KC had to put in a backup because the NFL, rightfully, wouldn't hear the end of it.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 14, 2023 14:29:43 GMT -5
Eh, Eagles punter damn near fell on his ass because of the shit field. You want bullshit? That's f***ing bullshit. That short punt is a big deal for the game and, had it happened to the Chiefs, it would be bullshit too. Garbage field should not be a factor in the Super Bowl when you had that much time to prepare and in a three point game, that was a factor. You also have your MVP playing on one leg. You're damn fortunate that he didn't screw his leg up even more on the field and KC had to put in a backup because the NFL, rightfully, wouldn't hear the end of it. Here's a solid take on dealing with it. twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1625353417789960194
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Post by Cyno on Feb 14, 2023 14:43:47 GMT -5
Apparently the Arizona field was that bad all year. So not exactly fair to blame the groundskeeper since I'm not sure what he could've actually done.
It's on the teams' owners to stop being cheap with crappy turf. We've had complaints all over the NFL about the turf used in a number of stadiums that induces more non-contact injuries like ACL tears.
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