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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 7, 2023 9:03:21 GMT -5
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 7, 2023 9:04:17 GMT -5
I don't care if people are personally fine with it and I don't really blame Edge here given it's more representative of the culture at large. But I also don't think it's fair for people to go and say "people these days get offended any anything" and such. I'm someone who is a victim of sexual assault and hearing this kind of material sucks and is very unnecessary.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 7, 2023 9:14:43 GMT -5
Yeah joking about sexual assault isn't cool. It's not something I'd go out on a cancellation campaign over but we need to be better as a people. The fact that this kind of thing happens in prison isn't funny, it's horrifying and an indictment of the entire prison system. You might say "oh they're prisoners they deserve it" or whatever helps you sleep at night but fact of the matter is nobody deserves it and it happens a lot more to people you yourself would think shouldn't be in prison in the first place than the farcical complete monster strawman you imagine in order to justify your laughter.
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Post by lucas_lee on Feb 7, 2023 9:47:27 GMT -5
I didnt think there was nothing wrong with the joke but handwaving peoples concerns and complaints about the joke isn't a good look either.
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Post by celtics543 on Feb 7, 2023 10:10:31 GMT -5
I kind of have the opinion that it's a tv show and the people on it are actors. If Adam Copeland said this or tweeted it or whatever then sure, maybe it's too far and needs to be addressed. But this was Edge, on a tv show. Just like I know that Bryan Cranston isn't actually cooking meth in a trailer, I know Edge probably doesn't condone prison rape.
I get being offended by the joke but let's keep in mind it's a tv show, not real life.
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Post by lucas_lee on Feb 7, 2023 10:47:21 GMT -5
I kind of have the opinion that it's a tv show and the people on it are actors. If Adam Copeland said this or tweeted it or whatever then sure, maybe it's too far and needs to be addressed. But this was Edge, on a tv show. Just like I know that Bryan Cranston isn't actually cooking meth in a trailer, I know Edge probably doesn't condone prison rape. I get being offended by the joke but let's keep in mind it's a tv show, not real life. Yeah its different to the controversy over Hogwarts Legacy (there's a big reason no one in here has made that topic in off-topic) where the actual person who made the series said some really ****ed up stuff and tainted the brand with it. It's not like Adam Copeland has these views and if he does he hides it very well.
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Post by canceled4truth on Feb 7, 2023 10:49:31 GMT -5
I think the joke is shitty but tbh I'm more perturbed by the people who immediately react to someone expressing their discomfort with a joke like that with "oh wow I guess comedy is dead now!" Nah dude you just grossly misread the room
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Post by canceled4truth on Feb 7, 2023 10:51:03 GMT -5
I kind of have the opinion that it's a tv show and the people on it are actors. If Adam Copeland said this or tweeted it or whatever then sure, maybe it's too far and needs to be addressed. But this was Edge, on a tv show. Just like I know that Bryan Cranston isn't actually cooking meth in a trailer, I know Edge probably doesn't condone prison rape. I get being offended by the joke but let's keep in mind it's a tv show, not real life. Yeah its different to the controversy over Hogwarts Legacy (there's a big reason no one in here has made that topic in off-topic) where the actual person who made the series said some really ****ed up stuff and tainted the brand with it. It's not like Adam Copeland has these views and if he does he hides it very well. Dude if I found out Edge had the same views as that woman I'd be so f***ing heartbroken. Really would be the death of my childhood
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Post by lucas_lee on Feb 7, 2023 10:55:11 GMT -5
I think the joke is shitty but tbh I'm more perturbed by the people who immediately react to someone expressing their discomfort with a joke like that with "oh wow I guess comedy is dead now!" Nah dude you just grossly misread the room I think its sad and corny when people express their discomfort at a joke and a comedian and their stans are like "comedy is dead, everyone is so offended these days" nah not everyone is going to like a joke. Like I said I found nothing wrong with the joke, but I understand why the subject of rape as a joke is offensive as hell and won't handwave it off like some people in here
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Post by celtics543 on Feb 7, 2023 11:18:35 GMT -5
Yeah its different to the controversy over Hogwarts Legacy (there's a big reason no one in here has made that topic in off-topic) where the actual person who made the series said some really ****ed up stuff and tainted the brand with it. It's not like Adam Copeland has these views and if he does he hides it very well. Dude if I found out Edge had the same views as that woman I'd be so f***ing heartbroken. Really would be the death of my childhood Isn't that AJ Styles in your avatar...
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Post by canceled4truth on Feb 7, 2023 11:23:35 GMT -5
Dude if I found out Edge had the same views as that woman I'd be so f***ing heartbroken. Really would be the death of my childhood Isn't that AJ Styles in your avatar... I mean, 1) it’s a funny picture and 2) I pretty much assumed I’ve disagreed with him since “THE GAY COMMUNITY?!?” but as far as I know (please correct me if I’m wrong!) he isn’t, like, openly spewing bile, which is the situation I was comparing it to
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Post by canceled4truth on Feb 7, 2023 11:26:14 GMT -5
I think the joke is shitty but tbh I'm more perturbed by the people who immediately react to someone expressing their discomfort with a joke like that with "oh wow I guess comedy is dead now!" Nah dude you just grossly misread the room I think its sad and corny when people express their discomfort at a joke and a comedian and their stans are like "comedy is dead, everyone is so offended these days" nah not everyone is going to like a joke. Like I said I found nothing wrong with the joke, but I understand why the subject of rape as a joke is offensive as hell and won't handwave it off like some people in here Yea that’s pretty much what I was trying to say, sorry if I wasn’t clear
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Feb 7, 2023 11:54:51 GMT -5
I mean, Edge is a relic himself, so him reaching for tired jokes like this isn't really surprising. I did appreciate the Jamiroquai reference though. I’m sure all Brits did. But this is what we really need to start pushing, lest my prediciton that 2023 is the year where Jamiroquai returns to mainstream relevance fails to materialize. I was legit suspicious about Edge reading this board when he mentioned returning 300 times and Jamiroquai back to back. Hi Edge ily but maybe don't go on a Booty Warrior tangent.
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Post by poodoojenkins on Feb 7, 2023 11:57:35 GMT -5
I think the joke is shitty but tbh I'm more perturbed by the people who immediately react to someone expressing their discomfort with a joke like that with "oh wow I guess comedy is dead now!" Nah dude you just grossly misread the room I think its sad and corny when people express their discomfort at a joke and a comedian and their stans are like "comedy is dead, everyone is so offended these days" nah not everyone is going to like a joke. Like I said I found nothing wrong with the joke, but I understand why the subject of rape as a joke is offensive as hell and won't handwave it off like some people in here For someone like myself, my standpoint is this: You don't have to like or agree with everything. But you don't need to whine and be outraged about it either. There was a time where people just didn't feel the need to make a public issue out of every little thing they dislike, and moving back to that way of doing things would be great. Like, for example, I'm a professional musician. And because of my profession, I am the subject of a LOT of jokes, ranging from stuff about my intelligence to my maturity to groupies to drugs. Most of these jokes aren't true, and almost all of them are played out and annoying. But I also don't feel the need to rant and rave and try to smear someone as being a bad person because they said one thing I didn't agree with or didn't like. And frankly, doing so is just ridiculously immature. I promise that in a week, no one will even remember this, so was it really even worth it for OP to start this kind of debate? No, it wasn't. I swear, you can just move right on past like, 99% of things you don't like without complaint, and everyone will be fine. It just takes some growing up and realizing that not everything is for everyone.
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Post by evilone on Feb 7, 2023 12:03:41 GMT -5
More than ever we need Dr D in today's wrestling
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Post by Totorob101 on Feb 7, 2023 12:10:06 GMT -5
I dont know how hard it is for people not to make jokes out of such nasty things like this and Edge shouldnt have said it so he should really be a bit ashamed of himself for it. Honestly people who say "its only a joke" dont understand and probably dont care about the hurt they cause with their garbage and id be glad if comedy is dead if crap like this is seen as comedy! You can joke and be funny without the offensiveness.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 7, 2023 12:13:43 GMT -5
The fact that there are so many people on here apparently on the side of, "Come on, it's just rape! Lighten up, bro, learn to take a joke! F***ing snowflakes!" kind of genuinely sickens me.
If it doesn't offend you personally then sure, whatever, but other people are approaching things from a different perspective and dismissing their own hang-ups on it with, "God, no one's allowed to tell jokes anymore!" is just gross as hell.
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Post by poodoojenkins on Feb 7, 2023 12:14:23 GMT -5
I dont know how hard it is for people not to make jokes out of such nasty things like this and Edge shouldnt have said it so he should really be a bit ashamed of himself for it. Honestly people who say "its only a joke" dont understand and probably dont care about the hurt they cause with their garbage and id be glad if comedy is dead if crap like this is seen as comedy! You can joke and be funny without the offensiveness. What is offensive to some, isn't to others, and vice versa. So who gets to decide?
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Post by poodoojenkins on Feb 7, 2023 12:17:30 GMT -5
The fact that there are so many people on here apparently on the side of, "Come on, it's just rape! Lighten up, bro, learn to take a joke! F***ing snowflakes!" kind of genuinely sickens me. If it doesn't offend you personally then sure, whatever, but other people are approaching things from a different perspective and dismissing their own hang-ups on it with, "God, no one's allowed to tell jokes anymore!" is just gross as hell. You made an entire thread less than 24 hours ago that is basically one giant gay joke. Come on down off that soapbox, man. It doesn't suit you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2023 12:20:00 GMT -5
Is it really that deep?
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