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Post by dirtyoldman on Feb 7, 2023 12:55:22 GMT -5
I'm not starting any argument either. I was the one to tell everyone to step back from the thread.
I think we're just going round in circles here so lets agree to disagree and wish each other a pleasant evening
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Post by schizo on Feb 7, 2023 12:56:49 GMT -5
Cancel culture at its finest I, myself, don’t like this particular kind of joke so it should be gone completely Funny thing is, the more people claim are offended the more those kind of jokes are going to be made, THATS the joke LOL thats a really ****** take. Does that justify Dave Chapelle going on transphobic rants and spewing venom and nah that bullshit about his friend was never verified so don't even come with that arguement. I dont think the joke is offensive but trying to make OP bad is a horrible thing to do. Nah, people just like to go on their morality high horse and preach that what they fine offensive and unexceptable to just be do away with regardless if people share the same views or not, people make offensive jokes all the damn time, in puplic, tv, movies, stand up, and such? It’s everywhere, why get offended now?
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Post by poodoojenkins on Feb 7, 2023 12:57:19 GMT -5
The only people trying to make anyone "bad" here are the self-appointed morality police who think the world should confirm to their ideas and that anyone who disagrees is an awful person. Most of us on the other side just want everyone to be able to like what they like, and deal with what they don't like an adult. In the same sentence you're saying you're not trying to make people bad while also talking about "self appointed morality police" trying to make the world conform to their viewpoints and somehow you don't see the inherent contradiction in this. Why did you get rid of the part where you told me to shut up and all that?
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Post by lucas_lee on Feb 7, 2023 12:58:13 GMT -5
LOL thats a really ****** take. Does that justify Dave Chapelle going on transphobic rants and spewing venom and nah that bullshit about his friend was never verified so don't even come with that arguement. I dont think the joke is offensive but trying to make OP bad is a horrible thing to do. Nah, people just like to go on their morality high horse and preach that what they fine offensive and unexceptable to just be do away with regardless if people share the same views or not, people make offensive jokes all the damn time, in puplic, tv, movies, stand up, and such? It’s everywhere, why get offended now? Its a joke about rape/ sexual assault buddy. Even if we don't have a problem with it, I'm not gonna call someone who got offended by it soft like people on this forum did.
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Post by Moppy on Feb 7, 2023 12:58:46 GMT -5
It’s kind of insane how people can’t see that “everybody likes to whine and preach nowadays” is literally just ‘everybody’s opinion is on the internet now and you’re exposed to about a zillion times more diverse opinions in the public domain compared to previous generations’.
How hard is that to see?
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Feb 7, 2023 13:00:42 GMT -5
My only issue is that this is the same guy who was chiding Priest for the "Beth wears the pants in the family" line last year and then goes and utters that shit. It's also just hack shit at this point. Like you can do so many other stronger jokes involving prison Dominik without it being the same tired r*pe jokes
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 7, 2023 13:02:33 GMT -5
People have always called out things they thought were crossing a line. This isn't new. The Looney Tunes Censored Eleven were pulled due to how wildly offensive they are and how much outcry they caused in 1968. And yet somehow in the intervening 55 years since they decided that those shorts were going too far people've still managed to make funny Looney Tunes content that didn't have the same issues.
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Post by lucas_lee on Feb 7, 2023 13:04:03 GMT -5
I'm on your side about the joke not being offensive but you're just going about in the most rude and obnoxious way Read my original posts in here, and then see when I started getting a little heated, and I think you'll find it comes well after some others started with their pushy, condescending nonsense. Now look at the post RIGHT below this one I'm quoting and tell me again how I'm being the "rude and obnoxious" one. EDIT: Nevermind. The post I was referring to was edited to remove the parts where they attacked me and told me to "shut the hell up, all the way up." Lol, if you're gonna say it, stand by it. You know what I made a mistake and got you mixed up with another person my bad. But I dont agree with your views.
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Post by poodoojenkins on Feb 7, 2023 13:05:41 GMT -5
It’s kind of insane how people can’t see that “everybody likes to whine and preach nowadays” is literally just ‘everybody’s opinion is on the internet now and you’re exposed to about a zillion times more diverse opinions in the public domain compared to previous generations’. How hard is that to see? I think it comes from a combination of things, one of them certainly being the point you made here. To pair with that point, I think the fact that so many companies, especially in entertainment, have actually bent to these people has made them feel like they have power. So, instead of raising their voices when it actually matters, they just raise their voice about EVERYTHING now. Which raises another issue: People complain so much, so loudly, so publicly these days that it actually muddies the hell out of the water and kinda winds up downplaying things that actually have some weight and relevance to them. If all you hear is bitching, it becomes difficult to discern one complaint from the next, y'know?
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Post by poodoojenkins on Feb 7, 2023 13:08:57 GMT -5
Read my original posts in here, and then see when I started getting a little heated, and I think you'll find it comes well after some others started with their pushy, condescending nonsense. Now look at the post RIGHT below this one I'm quoting and tell me again how I'm being the "rude and obnoxious" one. EDIT: Nevermind. The post I was referring to was edited to remove the parts where they attacked me and told me to "shut the hell up, all the way up." Lol, if you're gonna say it, stand by it. You know what I made a mistake and got you mixed up with another person my bad. But I dont agree with your views. Hey, no problem at all. And not agreeing is fine. Just don't try to make me agree lol.
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Post by dirtyoldman on Feb 7, 2023 13:14:48 GMT -5
Think everybody needs to step away from the internet right now. Go outside, take a deep breath and interact with the real world. To some people this board is a safe space for them to be themselves who the **** are you two, to dictate what people can be offended by? We just had a poster say they were a victim of SA but nah they're just soft right? Maybe it's been a mix up of communication but I wasn't telling the original poster or whoever was an SA victim to "step away" but rather the posters here who were about to kick off a big argument here. But youve probably blocked me so nevermind.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 7, 2023 13:15:31 GMT -5
Some of y'all are dedicating entirely too much energy towards explaining to sexual assault survivors why they shouldn't be bothered by rape jokes. Just saying my piece. I don't really have a horse in the fight either way but that's where I'm perceiving things.
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Post by Moppy on Feb 7, 2023 13:18:34 GMT -5
It’s kind of insane how people can’t see that “everybody likes to whine and preach nowadays” is literally just ‘everybody’s opinion is on the internet now and you’re exposed to about a zillion times more diverse opinions in the public domain compared to previous generations’. How hard is that to see? I think it comes from a combination of things, one of them certainly being the point you made here. To pair with that point, I think the fact that so many companies, especially in entertainment, have actually bent to these people has made them feel like they have power. So, instead of raising their voices when it actually matters, they just raise their voice about EVERYTHING now. Which raises another issue: People complain so much, so loudly, so publicly these days that it actually muddies the hell out of the water and kinda winds up downplaying things that actually have some weight and relevance to them. If all you hear is bitching, it becomes difficult to discern one complaint from the next, y'know? I can certainly envisage some recent ‘controversies’ that are tantamount to like, *one* person complaining that could generously be described as an ‘overreach’, leading to a public body/business yielding immediately to escape bad PR, the press jump on it for hate clicks and before you know it all the twats on GB News and Fox News are all over it. It’s a maddening experience, and I guess I can see how it gets people wound up about ‘cancel culture’. For me though, that’s the media system perpetuating nonsense, it’s not a great societal change towards complaints being more common. It’s just that those complaints are put infront of our eyes more often. And I struggle to tally that with what’s happened here. OP expressed their views, they’re clearly in the minority, and I certainly don’t see many (any?) posters trying to force their views on others here.
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Post by schizo on Feb 7, 2023 13:18:34 GMT -5
Nah, people just like to go on their morality high horse and preach that what they fine offensive and unexceptable to just be do away with regardless if people share the same views or not, people make offensive jokes all the damn time, in puplic, tv, movies, stand up, and such? It’s everywhere, why get offended now? Its a joke about rape/ sexual assault buddy. Even if we don't have a problem with it, I'm not gonna call someone who got offended by it soft like people on this forum did. You don’t have to like those kind of jokes, but when it gets to a point where like, a poster on here was calling for all of comedy to be dead so offensive jokes can’t be made or you could only make jokes that arn’t vulgar then well..LOL..haha yeah, that ain’t going to happen
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Feb 7, 2023 13:18:42 GMT -5
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Post by Zombie Mod on Feb 7, 2023 13:18:59 GMT -5
threads done.
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Post by Stu on Feb 7, 2023 13:21:22 GMT -5
Nothing to see. Move along, move along
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Feb 7, 2023 13:31:18 GMT -5
My apologies Zombie for coming in after three lock but I feel the need to say this: I dont know how hard it is for people not to make jokes out of such nasty things like this and Edge shouldnt have said it so he should really be a bit ashamed of himself for it. Honestly people who say "its only a joke" dont understand and probably dont care about the hurt they cause with their garbage and id be glad if comedy is dead if crap like this is seen as comedy! You can joke and be funny without the offensiveness. What is offensive to some, isn't to others, and vice versa. So who gets to decide? As one of the moderators here I have a hand in deciding what flies here and telling people who find a joke about sexual assault hurtful because they are victims of sexual assault that they need to grow up, not be offended, stop telling people that they find it offensive, learn to take a joke or anything of that nature offensive and not something that we will tolerate. Then to chase people into other threads and make lame attempts of "proving a point" not tolerable and offensive to the wellbeing of this board. That's my job. But I like to think I'm good with a joke, have a healthy sense of humor that is quite dark and can laugh at anything so let me try a joke out: "Knock knock" "Who is there?" "Braden Walker jokes unlike you for awhile because you show a lack of maturity in dealing with other people and could stand to learn empathy for your fellow man, even if you don't agree with their opinions."
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