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Post by tafkaga on Feb 8, 2023 11:06:39 GMT -5
How do you think DX would have looked if Hall and Nash had remained in the WWF and eventually stabled up with their clique buddies? How would they have fit into that group? Would Triple H have still found his way to the forefront? Do the New Age Outlaws still find a way in? Who becomes leader of the group after Shawn leaves?
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Post by fg on Feb 8, 2023 11:45:30 GMT -5
Weren’t they (at the time) too old for DX? Also, I bet some of the wrestlers didn’t want them in because they saw them as a hindrance. Yeah, I know they made the NWO popular but in 1998, it was time for a new generation.
Wwe didn’t need them.
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Post by nickcave on Feb 8, 2023 13:33:56 GMT -5
I think if Hall and Nash for whatever reason did jump back to WWF at the same time as Waltman because they were upset about his firing which is about the only timeframe I could see this being semi-plausible the WWF would most likely have stuck the three of them together and I don't think they would have had any association with DX at the time.
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Post by tirtefaa on Feb 9, 2023 1:28:15 GMT -5
There wouldn't have been a DX, because WWF would have been either dead or continuing it's mundane New Generation booking.
Freeing up those slots allowed for WWF to expand their main event to others, and also evolve.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 9, 2023 7:25:11 GMT -5
I'm not sure it would have worked, Nash and Hall were a bit too big and established.
Obviously, you have HBK who had been world champion, but he worked so well as a snot faced weasel, I'm not sure Hall or especially Nash had the right vibe to go with that group, they could be a big conquering invasion, not some punk kids.
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Post by tafkaga on Feb 9, 2023 9:43:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure it would have worked, Nash and Hall were a bit too big and established. Obviously, you have HBK who had been world champion, but he worked so well as a snot faced weasel, I'm not sure Hall or especially Nash had the right vibe to go with that group, they could be a big conquering invasion, not some punk kids. Ding ding ding... thanks for being the first to answer the question. It's also hard for me to imagine Hall or Nash really fitting into the group, even though they kind of carried on similar vibes in WCW with the juvenile behavior, spray painting everything, being smart asses, etc. I can actually see Shawn and Triple H fitting into the nWo much better than Hall or Nash in DX.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 9, 2023 10:21:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure it would have worked, Nash and Hall were a bit too big and established. Obviously, you have HBK who had been world champion, but he worked so well as a snot faced weasel, I'm not sure Hall or especially Nash had the right vibe to go with that group, they could be a big conquering invasion, not some punk kids. Ding ding ding... thanks for being the first to answer the question. It's also hard for me to imagine Hall or Nash really fitting into the group, even though they kind of carried on similar vibes in WCW with the juvenile behavior, spray painting everything, being smart asses, etc. I can actually see Shawn and Triple H fitting into the nWo much better than Hall or Nash in DX. They're all immature... but it's a different kind of immaturity. DX were immature like 14 year olds, laughing when they can say a dirty word, wanting to see even a bit of boob. Hall and Nash were more like frat bros, they'd hit the bar, fight, drink, f*** a stripper and break stuff. Like, them in DX would have made the rest of DX seem really lame.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 11:43:34 GMT -5
Everything needed to happen the way it did for WWE to still exist today.
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Post by DSR on Feb 9, 2023 15:16:06 GMT -5
Ding ding ding... thanks for being the first to answer the question. It's also hard for me to imagine Hall or Nash really fitting into the group, even though they kind of carried on similar vibes in WCW with the juvenile behavior, spray painting everything, being smart asses, etc. I can actually see Shawn and Triple H fitting into the nWo much better than Hall or Nash in DX. They're all immature... but it's a different kind of immaturity. DX were immature like 14 year olds, laughing when they can say a dirty word, wanting to see even a bit of boob. Hall and Nash were more like frat bros, they'd hit the bar, fight, drink, f*** a stripper and break stuff. Like, them in DX would have made the rest of DX seem really lame. Hall and Nash were like a chainsaw. They'll skin your ass raw.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 9, 2023 15:19:54 GMT -5
Ding ding ding... thanks for being the first to answer the question. It's also hard for me to imagine Hall or Nash really fitting into the group, even though they kind of carried on similar vibes in WCW with the juvenile behavior, spray painting everything, being smart asses, etc. I can actually see Shawn and Triple H fitting into the nWo much better than Hall or Nash in DX. They're all immature... but it's a different kind of immaturity. DX were immature like 14 year olds, laughing when they can say a dirty word, wanting to see even a bit of boob. Hall and Nash were more like frat bros, they'd hit the bar, fight, drink, f*** a stripper and break stuff. Like, them in DX would have made the rest of DX seem really lame. Yeah, they were douchebags at differing levels of douchebaggery.
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Post by evilone on Feb 9, 2023 15:53:14 GMT -5
Everything needed to happen the way it did for WWE to still exist today. WWE was never gonna go down. Even in the worst case scenario they would have been scavangers like Impact for time being before rebounding back. They needed WCW to make them another boom period and it worked out. WCW would have still be in business if somehow it went private before AOL cut its throat. I do not doubt that WCW would have got a new TV deal with and ease had they had enough time like a year or so.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 9, 2023 16:34:58 GMT -5
I feel like it'd depend on if Vince would let go, but I don't know if he'd do it without having to.
In any case, nWo were actually crotch-chopping people sometimes before D-X did it yet, so they could have gotten in on some of that stuff fine enough.
I will say, one of the conditions Hall asked for to stay was being world champion. I wonder if HBK could have stomached it, given I think there'd been tension when Nash won, too.
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Post by Aceorton on Feb 9, 2023 20:12:55 GMT -5
Had Nash and Hall somehow returned during the DX glory period, I think they would have teased joining with them, which is what everyone would expect, but instead they'd have feuded with them. Kliq civil war, with X-Pac caught in the middle but ultimately siding with DX.
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Post by Hypnosis on Feb 9, 2023 21:02:25 GMT -5
Had Nash and Hall somehow returned during the DX glory period, I think they would have teased joining with them, which is what everyone would expect, but instead they'd have feuded with them. Kliq civil war, with X-Pac caught in the middle but ultimately siding with DX. That timeline would have been interesting. I was thinking of that angle for a long time myself.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Feb 10, 2023 2:13:40 GMT -5
If Hall and Nash stayed DX wouldn't have been a thing. It's interesting because I can see WWF maybe getting out of their new generation booking rut and getting edgier, but what of WCW? Is the nWo still a thing in any form if the outsiders aren't part of it? WCW booking was still pretty shitty before the nWo angle, but like the WWF, could have still changed its style.
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Post by tafkaga on Feb 10, 2023 10:09:29 GMT -5
If Hall and Nash stayed DX wouldn't have been a thing. It's interesting because I can see WWF maybe getting out of their new generation booking rut and getting edgier, but what of WCW? Is the nWo still a thing in any form if the outsiders aren't part of it? WCW booking was still pretty shitty before the nWo angle, but like the WWF, could have still changed its style. I don't see nWo really being a thing without Hall and Nash. I think the Hogan heel turn would have still happened though, and been very successful for the company, albeit probably not as successful without the nWo brand.
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Post by somsta on Feb 27, 2023 0:00:12 GMT -5
I think we actually kind of got to see DX Hall and Nash for a couple months when Russo took over WCW. The match with the strippers, the wandering around backstage getting drunk on cough syrup, the Vince impersonation, the Sid impersonation….That all felt more DX than nWo.
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