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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 10:43:13 GMT -5
He's still going, but it seems like he only works in Colorado now, for some reason. Does he live in Colorado? Because it would be hilarious if he lived in like Maryland but refused to work anywhere but Colorado. Lives in Utah.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 9, 2023 12:43:41 GMT -5
For the levels you saying. Right now until the other companies signed them or whatever. I'm going on Star power. A lot of good talent named that would be good to build as you home grown talent. But As an put there name on a banner right away and get some kind of result guys. This is who I have. 1. Jay White: Saying him because I believe he about to be a free agent and said to the US. Being he a good talker and the resume he has from Japan. He has to be the guy in terms of star power than would connect in the US more easily. 2. Koto Ibushi: Same as Jay but I think the one thing that gives Jay the edge is because he not known for speaking English. So I have him at #2. 3. Nick Aldis: He built himself well as NWA face of the company and still in his prime. Good talker and old school style worker. He was the guy when the NWA wasn't laughable as it is now. 4. Matt Cardona: He appears all over. While I know he works with Impact, the NWA and ext. He not locked down with any of them. Unless there is some truth that maybe he WWE bound. He on the list for now. He enough star power and build himself up the last couple of years since leaving WWE. 5. Chris Adonis: Very good hand for your roster. Good look, can work, and had the pieces. A good build up he can be a company carrier in the short term for a couple years. 6. Da Pope Eljah Burke: NWA wasting him But same goes for him as said about Adonis. Hell of a talker that can get over fast. 7. Mandy Rose: If she still wants to wrestle. You have to consider her a star for your womens Divison. 8. Sasha Banks: She had dates in Japan but if that full time? If not she the biggest star really out there for women, maybe out there. Others I can said good hands but wouldn't be big enough. I thought about Chris Hero and wondering what his status really is. But at less a good backstage guy I would think. Willie Mack hasn't officially signed with AEW has he? On Jay, if he's to be a free agent, then he would already be a free agent, since New Japan contracts end in January and he'd likely also would've had a communication from New Japan itself about him being let go like Ibushi has. The likeliest outcome is that he's still signed but will stay stateside and be the face of the American branch of New Japan while being allowed to be in other places. Ibushi clearly doesn't want to be tied down, so he isn't going to be carrying any company. Aldis, on the other hand, can work, depending on how much you're willing to make the company spin around him and the main belt, as I believe that was the secret for his NWA run and where he plays best. I have to imagine anyone booking a company the size of an Impact or MLW would have to be gun shy about making Nick Aldis THE GUY in 2023. Check out this old thread: officialfan.proboards.com/thread/593704/nick-aldis-guy-promotionThere were THREE companies that arguably tried to make him THE GUY and none of them ended up better afterward. TNA: The last time the company was really relevant as a number two US promotion was around the time Aldis was champ. It continued spiraling with him until eventually settling into where it is now GFW: A stillborn mess of a company. NWA: Aldis was used well for a while and his run and Corgan’s initial booking gave the current incarnation a much needed sense of identity. That didn’t last long though and now with Tyrus on top things have really fallen off the wheels. A lot of the bad circumstances around Aldis’ runs with these places were really beyond his control. TNA was well into dumpster fire territory by the Aldis reign and booked him horribly as champion. GFW isn’t even worth remembering and NWA’s direction was much more on Corgan than anything to do with Aldis. But to paraphrase an old saying: If you’re around shitty booking long enough, don’t be surprised if people think you stink.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 9, 2023 13:10:58 GMT -5
Others I can said good hands but wouldn't be big enough. I thought about Chris Hero and wondering what his status really is. But at less a good backstage guy I would think. According to Hero's fiance he is thinking about a limited return to the ring this year. But been hearing from those that know him he has said that the past 2 years. If he does come back I know my local indie will book him. No matter the cost. But I do wonder if Hero would be a good one ot build a fed around. Dude is what early 40s. Never really made it to the big state so isn't that known to the average fan. Great wrestler,good guy but not sure how much he could offer that is longer than say a year tops. One I thought of that isn't really known outside my area is Rey Fury. Dude has everything and would be a good lead face to book a fed around. If you have no clue who Rey Fury is go hit up Youtube. I know he has a few hundred matches up. Dude has faced everyone he can. Traveled all over. And has major respect for wrestling and lucha.
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Post by Fundertaker on Feb 9, 2023 14:00:21 GMT -5
On Jay, if he's to be a free agent, then he would already be a free agent, since New Japan contracts end in January and he'd likely also would've had a communication from New Japan itself about him being let go like Ibushi has. The likeliest outcome is that he's still signed but will stay stateside and be the face of the American branch of New Japan while being allowed to be in other places. Ibushi clearly doesn't want to be tied down, so he isn't going to be carrying any company. Aldis, on the other hand, can work, depending on how much you're willing to make the company spin around him and the main belt, as I believe that was the secret for his NWA run and where he plays best. I have to imagine anyone booking a company the size of an Impact or MLW would have to be gun shy about making Nick Aldis THE GUY in 2023. Check out this old thread: officialfan.proboards.com/thread/593704/nick-aldis-guy-promotionThere were THREE companies that arguably tried to make him THE GUY and none of them ended up better afterward. TNA: The last time the company was really relevant as a number two US promotion was around the time Aldis was champ. It continued spiraling with him until eventually settling into where it is now GFW: A stillborn mess of a company. NWA: Aldis was used well for a while and his run and Corgan’s initial booking gave the current incarnation a much needed sense of identity. That didn’t last long though and now with Tyrus on top things have really fallen off the wheels. A lot of the bad circumstances around Aldis’ runs with these places were really beyond his control. TNA was well into dumpster fire territory by the Aldis reign and booked him horribly as champion. GFW isn’t even worth remembering and NWA’s direction was much more on Corgan than anything to do with Aldis. But to paraphrase an old saying: If you’re around shitty booking long enough, don’t be surprised if people think you stink. Oh, no doubt about it. I was just stating that it CAN be done, under relatevely specific circumstances. It is hard to have a wrestler who can be "the guy" for your company but if you don't do him any favors, it might poison the well for anyone who tries after and that may very well be the case for Aldis right now.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 9, 2023 14:49:48 GMT -5
Others I can said good hands but wouldn't be big enough. I thought about Chris Hero and wondering what his status really is. But at less a good backstage guy I would think. According to Hero's fiance he is thinking about a limited return to the ring this year. But been hearing from those that know him he has said that the past 2 years. If he does come back I know my local indie will book him. No matter the cost. But I do wonder if Hero would be a good one ot build a fed around. Dude is what early 40s. Never really made it to the big state so isn't that known to the average fan. Great wrestler,good guy but not sure how much he could offer that is longer than say a year tops. One I thought of that isn't really known outside my area is Rey Fury. Dude has everything and would be a good lead face to book a fed around. If you have no clue who Rey Fury is go hit up Youtube. I know he has a few hundred matches up. Dude has faced everyone he can. Traveled all over. And has major respect for wrestling and lucha. Hero must be booked.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 9, 2023 15:07:17 GMT -5
Well having heard what Hero charged to wrestle after his last WWE run it isn't nearly as much as I figured it would be. You can get Chris hero for 3 matches for what Bobby Fish was asking for one.
Plus Hero doesn't also ask for "A 4 star or better hotel and 3 good meals each day"
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 9, 2023 15:12:46 GMT -5
Well having heard what Hero charged to wrestle after his last WWE run it isn't nearly as much as I figured it would be. You can get Chris hero for 3 matches for what Bobby Fish was asking for one. Plus Hero doesn't also ask for "A 4 star or better hotel and 3 good meals each day" If Hero returned no doubt he’d clean up on the indies. Also, I’m sure he has a standing invitation from Tony Khan to reunite with Claudio whenever he wants to jump on it. As for building a company around him I think you brought up some great points. For years he was my favorite guy on the indies. But 2007 was a long time ago.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 9, 2023 15:14:45 GMT -5
Well having heard what Hero charged to wrestle after his last WWE run it isn't nearly as much as I figured it would be. You can get Chris hero for 3 matches for what Bobby Fish was asking for one. Plus Hero doesn't also ask for "A 4 star or better hotel and 3 good meals each day" If Hero returned no doubt he’d clean up on the indies. Also, I’m sure he has a standing invitation from Tony Khan to reunite with Claudio whenever he wants to jump on it. As for building a company around him I think you brought up some great points. For years he was my favorite guy on the indies. But 2007 was a long time ago. With Hero it is not only the fed owner that is a huge fan but there is a few regulars in the fed that want to face Hero. Now if he is willing Hero would make a great trainer/coach.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 9, 2023 16:20:36 GMT -5
Asuka/Veny - can only assume she wants to remain a freelancer because promotions should be competing to sign her. Yeah, I think she likes being a freelancer for the time being. I often forget how young she still is given her ability.
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Post by RKTaker on Feb 9, 2023 16:32:10 GMT -5
Huh, a couple of ways to interpret this; we talking someone with existing star power, or are we thinking people just on the cusp of getting to the next level? I'll assume the latter. Anyway, "unsigned" seems to be a fairly vague category these days, but the people who come to mind first are Trish Adora, Masha Slamovich, and O'Shay Edwards. Maybe Alec Price. A year ago I woulda said Edith Surreal, but she seems to have lost a lot of momentum and has gotten really sloppy in the ring, so unfortunately she's out. came in here to say Alec, guy could be the ace of MLW or any company, and while he’s probably still a few years away from getting signed to like MLW or something I’ll throw in Marcus Mathers, him and Alec could be like the Steen-Generico/ Ciampa/Gargano type of rivals
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Feb 9, 2023 16:44:32 GMT -5
On Jay, if he's to be a free agent, then he would already be a free agent, since New Japan contracts end in January and he'd likely also would've had a communication from New Japan itself about him being let go like Ibushi has. The likeliest outcome is that he's still signed but will stay stateside and be the face of the American branch of New Japan while being allowed to be in other places. Ibushi clearly doesn't want to be tied down, so he isn't going to be carrying any company. Aldis, on the other hand, can work, depending on how much you're willing to make the company spin around him and the main belt, as I believe that was the secret for his NWA run and where he plays best. I have to imagine anyone booking a company the size of an Impact or MLW would have to be gun shy about making Nick Aldis THE GUY in 2023. Check out this old thread: officialfan.proboards.com/thread/593704/nick-aldis-guy-promotionThere were THREE companies that arguably tried to make him THE GUY and none of them ended up better afterward. TNA: The last time the company was really relevant as a number two US promotion was around the time Aldis was champ. It continued spiraling with him until eventually settling into where it is now GFW: A stillborn mess of a company. NWA: Aldis was used well for a while and his run and Corgan’s initial booking gave the current incarnation a much needed sense of identity. That didn’t last long though and now with Tyrus on top things have really fallen off the wheels. A lot of the bad circumstances around Aldis’ runs with these places were really beyond his control. TNA was well into dumpster fire territory by the Aldis reign and booked him horribly as champion. GFW isn’t even worth remembering and NWA’s direction was much more on Corgan than anything to do with Aldis. But to paraphrase an old saying: If you’re around shitty booking long enough, don’t be surprised if people think you stink. In the terms of the thread who really has to be signed to a one company deal. Most of the company at a below AEW or WWE, they either sign to do your taping which MLW, Impact, and NWA are all one day a month or a block of a couple days early in a month. Why you see Cordona, Bully Ray, and others doing multiple companies. Ibushi is willing to work for your company but is allow to do whatever because your schedule fits. He could be the one carrying your company. That does depends on if you tape a month of stuff in a couple days or if you live weekly would decide that. Chris Hero as I said and several talked about. He would be a good short term guy. He is 43, but a good mind for the business. I know at the end of ROH before Tony brought it, he did some producer work. Like I said I didn't list him because I was unsure his status. I know he loves wrestling and always want to talk about it. That tells me that he be a good backstage hand if he wanted to do that which from that ROH stuff, I think he may.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Feb 9, 2023 18:12:49 GMT -5
Asuka/Veny - can only assume she wants to remain a freelancer because promotions should be competing to sign her. This. She could walk into almost any promotion and be the best or one of the very best on the roster, but it’s kinda becoming apparent she prefers being a freelancer. Sead, ddt, Sendai, and all the other places that feature her really benefit from that so I’m happy.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 9, 2023 18:26:18 GMT -5
Asuka/Veny - can only assume she wants to remain a freelancer because promotions should be competing to sign her. This. She could walk into almost any promotion and be the best or one of the very best on the roster, but it’s kinda becoming apparent she prefers being a freelancer. Sead, ddt, Sendai, and all the other places that feature her really benefit from that so I’m happy. Yeah, maybe that changes, but for now, she probably enjoys the freedom. Ibushi's sort of an example of both the good AND bad that can come from committing to one place after freelancer status.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 18:34:52 GMT -5
On their own back? Don't even think Ibushi could do that.
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Post by ANuclearError on Feb 9, 2023 18:38:37 GMT -5
On their own back? Don't even think Ibushi could do that. Ibushi would try to take a neck bump.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 9, 2023 18:41:12 GMT -5
On their own back? Don't even think Ibushi could do that. Ibushi would try to take a neck bump. Ibushi has punished his neck enough without having to try to carry a company on it.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Feb 9, 2023 19:23:29 GMT -5
Marko Stunt?
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 9, 2023 19:42:22 GMT -5
Isn't he promoting shows these days?
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Feb 9, 2023 20:02:59 GMT -5
[I thought Asuka/Veny changed their pronouns to they/them but I could be wrong?
Maybe it was that they came out as enby but still go by she/her idk]
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 9, 2023 21:40:24 GMT -5
Isn't he promoting shows these days? It is odd . Keep hearing Marko wanted to do shows in North MS and TN. Since he lefft AEW there hasn't been a Marko Stunt show I have heard of. Next time I see some of the guys that know Marko better I will ask if he is still running/or has ran a show.
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