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Post by Chainsaw on May 19, 2007 17:04:51 GMT -5
Man, where's Madison when you really need him? Coincidentally enough, I've been away working on something related to Marvel Zombies. Basic answer is two-fold, both already answered here: In this reality he was also President for a time, plus it's to make an unsubtle nudge that it's an alternate reality. This world's all screwy that way. Nextwave and Power Pack are around before Silver Surfer and Galactus arrive on Earth for the first time? 70s version of Luke Cage on the Avengers team? Etc., etc. Those who are following it need to pick up the latest issues of Black Panther too. While MZ: Dead Days and MZs vs. Army of Darkness are prequels, what's happening in BP is a sequel to the original MZ series. Well, there you go then. Gracias, Mad.
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 19, 2007 17:10:37 GMT -5
I'll say this, while I'm not aware of anything of the nature, I certainly hope we see what happened to Ultimate Doom while he was there.
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Post by Mr. Zombie on May 19, 2007 19:18:00 GMT -5
Yeah I want to know what happened with Doom, especially since he shows up before they all leave Earth. I would have hoped he would lower the boom on them, the way he did with the Ultimate Frightful Four. Since they're all still alive, though, I doubt thats what happened.
I also did pick up Dead Days, but those questions were still lingering with me.
I picked up on the fact that Reed injected everyone, since he outright says it, but I still don't understand how he got the Thing without him noticing, and then putting 2 and 2 together. I also thought since his power might be involuntary (he can't turn it on or off, just control it) it would be near impossible to infect him.
I'm also under the assumption now that Colossus may have actually been killed off, explaining how he never got infected.
The Wonder Man infection is the one that I'm most curious about, especially since they show him fighting off zombies in one of the shots in the book. His power is inpenetrable skin.
No one would happen to know what time period of Marvel this all takes part in? There's a mix of guys wearing classic costumes, but there's some modern stuff thrown in also. I'm under the assumption that its sort of a combination of classic and current Marvel.
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 19, 2007 22:04:33 GMT -5
No one would happen to know what time period of Marvel this all takes part in? There's a mix of guys wearing classic costumes, but there's some modern stuff thrown in also. I'm under the assumption that its sort of a combination of classic and current Marvel. Exactly. It relates to no time period we're familiar with. This world is basically a "the versions people are most familiar with" world. That's why certain characters (NextWave, Power Pack, a couple of other REALLY recent characters I can't mention yet) are around before the first arrival of Surfer and Galactus. Kind of a "best of" world. As far as the skin thing, this virus works in weird ways that have yet to be explained. Even robots are prone to it. Oh, and for the comment earlier that the Dead Days lacked the fun of the first mini, keep in mind that the original stuff, from Ultimate FF, wasn't fun either. They're mixing it up a little. MZ and MZ vs. AOD are the lighter ones, UFF and MZ: Dead Days are the more serious ones.
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Post by Mr. Zombie on May 20, 2007 0:24:10 GMT -5
Yeah, thats true. I was just thinking that they were keeping the tone for Zombies very lighthearted, according to the first mini series and the fake ads I've seen in marvel books for the 80s equivalent of Hotpockets. I just can't think of what they are....you know, the things that have fruity stuff inside them and come in the wax paper wrapper. Good point on the original Ultimate FF run being dark as well. I really wish I had bought those books instead of just reading them at Borders. I really enjoyed them, I don't know why i didn't pick them up.
Either way, I'm enjoying the franchise immensely. I'm just curious to find out if those things are going to be explained or not. I also hope its not overexposed to the point where it becoems run of the mill (if it hasn't been already).
the best of world would make sense, so that way everyone can get in on the fun. Its strange that Marvel is having a lot of success with its alternate universe line that seems to be popping up these days between Ultimate Books, and now Zombie books.
Also, where did Power Pack show up? Was it in the orignal Marvel Zombies miniseries, or was it in the vs. Army of Darkness series? I've read the first, and don't remember them in there, although I could have missed them.
Madison, while you're answering my questions, will Peter David be writing any more of World War Hulk? I love his work on Hulk, and I'm almost finished collecting his entire first run. I'd love to see what he did if he actually oversaw and plotted the storyline out, but thats wishful thinking.
I'm actually a big Peter David fan all around...his 1st run on X-Factor was enjoyable, but was runined by the X-Hype of the early 90s. I would have liked to see his take on Avengers after reading X-Factor and The Last Avengers Story. I have yet to pick up FNSM. Does he write any other books?
Also, just out of curiosity, do you have complete access to Marvel's archives or anything? Actually, do they have an informational archive where they log storylines and whatnot?
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 20, 2007 0:51:23 GMT -5
Also, where did Power Pack show up? Was it in the orignal Marvel Zombies miniseries, or was it in the vs. Army of Darkness series? I've read the first, and don't remember them in there, although I could have missed them. the Vs. AOD series I "think" his book X-Factor may be tied in some way, but not sure. Just that and X-Factor. To answer the first question, no. Which ties into the second question which is "kinda sorta." At one point, they kept archives, but from my understanding, during the big changing of the guard a few years back, some unknown people decided to relieve Marvel of a good chunk of that archive on their way out. At the moment, the only stuff for sure that is archived is the stuff from the last 6 or so years, plus whatever they've used for the Essentials and more recent TPB collections. In fact, the Essentials are nothing more than a side-effect of the archiving efforts, as the books are being stored digitally, and that helps pay the costs.
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Post by Mr. Zombie on May 20, 2007 2:19:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I just thought I would ask. I know Kevin Smith mentioned that when he was writing Superman Lives, he had access to the DC archives, which I thought was really cool. I was just wondering if Marvel kept anything similar.
So does anyone think the Marvel Zombies will end up consuming the entire universe that they are holed up in? They did become the new Galactus, which I thought made a lot of sense, since they are pretty much devourers driven by hunger. I didn't think it made snese that Galactus was actually defeated, but thats another argument. Yes, I understand that his power level wanes if he hasn't fed in a while.....but still. So, will they be stopped, and where will they go? It'd be interesting to see them come back to Earth hundreds of years later after some population growth amongst the survivors, and how Earth has readied itself.
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